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Post by francegas on Aug 11, 2021 20:47:29 GMT
I’ve been saying for a while we should have a flying quota , no more than 6/7 flights allowed every 5 yrs . I think I’ve had one flight ( to Kos last summer) in the last 5 yrs . We drive to France most summers for our holidays . We could easily have jumped on a plane from Bristol to Toulouse but we choose to drive instead , partly for costs but mostly for environmental reasons and just because we can . Don't know if you or your children are interested Yatton but currently the wife and I are sat under a cloudless sky watching the shooting stars of the perseid meteor shower in central France. Could be worth a watch if you have no light pollution where you are in southern France, with tomorrow the shooting stars being at their peak . |
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Post by yattongas on Aug 11, 2021 20:52:42 GMT
I’ve been saying for a while we should have a flying quota , no more than 6/7 flights allowed every 5 yrs . I think I’ve had one flight ( to Kos last summer) in the last 5 yrs . We drive to France most summers for our holidays . We could easily have jumped on a plane from Bristol to Toulouse but we choose to drive instead , partly for costs but mostly for environmental reasons and just because we can . Don't know if you or your children are interested Yatton but currently the wife and I are sat under a cloudless sky watching the shooting stars of the perseid meteor shower in central France. Could be worth a watch if you have no light pollution where you are in southern France, with tomorrow the shooting stars being at their peak . Great shout , the wife would love that and kids ( if it’s not too late) . We’re in a little village and our gîte is a bit hemmed in but the sky’s are dark . Thanks for the tip 😃👍 |
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Post by Gassy on Aug 12, 2021 6:29:52 GMT
Ah, The classic Daily Fail headline. Do not listen to the message, look at how they deliver it. As if, in todays world, shouting from a cave would make the slightest difference. Whilst a younger person, with a clear message, might actually communicate and get across to a young generation whose lives will be most impacted by what we have done. Not them, we. How dare they use all means open to them to get their message across. Quite happy to listen to the message Oldie. But your final sentence sums it up. I'll travel from country to country via plane, to dictate to people they shouldn't fly and airlines need to reduce their emissions. Surely you find that somewhat hypocritical. Boris flew from London to Cornwall for the climate change summit and said we should become more green. Is he now the same level of hypocrite as Greta and Emma are, in your book? |
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Post by francegas on Aug 12, 2021 6:59:16 GMT
Quite happy to listen to the message Oldie. But your final sentence sums it up. I'll travel from country to country via plane, to dictate to people they shouldn't fly and airlines need to reduce their emissions. Surely you find that somewhat hypocritical. Boris flew from London to Cornwall for the climate change summit and said we should become more green. Is he now the same level of hypocrite as Greta and Emma are, in your book? Yes |
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Post by Gassy on Aug 12, 2021 7:11:06 GMT
Boris flew from London to Cornwall for the climate change summit and said we should become more green. Is he now the same level of hypocrite as Greta and Emma are, in your book? Yes Good, looking forward to your vote for Corbyn next election then 😁 |
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Post by francegas on Aug 12, 2021 7:36:06 GMT
Good, looking forward to your vote for Corbyn next election then 😁 Hell will freeze over before that ever happens. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2021 8:27:52 GMT
metal straws are not the answer anyway... they're costing me a fortune, and my wheelie bin is too heavy to lift.
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Post by francegas on Aug 12, 2021 10:38:23 GMT
Don't know if you or your children are interested Yatton but currently the wife and I are sat under a cloudless sky watching the shooting stars of the perseid meteor shower in central France. Could be worth a watch if you have no light pollution where you are in southern France, with tomorrow the shooting stars being at their peak . Great shout , the wife would love that and kids ( if it’s not too late) . We’re in a little village and our gîte is a bit hemmed in but the sky’s are dark . Thanks for the tip 😃👍 This'll make you laugh. Was sitting in the square in our local town Ambert having a beer with my wife and was mistaken by some locals as being Didier Deschamps. Not sure if that's a compliment or insult!! |
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Post by yattongas on Aug 12, 2021 10:47:01 GMT
Great shout , the wife would love that and kids ( if it’s not too late) . We’re in a little village and our gîte is a bit hemmed in but the sky’s are dark . Thanks for the tip 😃👍 This'll make you laugh. Was sitting in the square in our local town Ambert having a beer with my wife and was mistaken by some locals as being Didier Deschamps. Not sure if that's a compliment or insult!! Were you holding a bottle of water at the time ? |
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Post by baggins on Aug 12, 2021 11:00:41 GMT
Quite happy to listen to the message Oldie. But your final sentence sums it up. I'll travel from country to country via plane, to dictate to people they shouldn't fly and airlines need to reduce their emissions. Surely you find that somewhat hypocritical. Boris flew from London to Cornwall for the climate change summit and said we should become more green. Is he now the same level of hypocrite as Greta and Emma are, in your book? I've heard the new yacht will be solar powered. |
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Post by Gassy on Aug 14, 2021 6:07:56 GMT
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-58170865.ampA study by the pressure group WWF says new green policies in the March 2021 Budget add up to just 0.01% of GDP. But the government's own advisory Climate Change Committee has said 1% of national wealth - or GDP - must be spent every year in the UK to ensure climate targets are met.
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Post by stuart1974 on Aug 25, 2021 23:07:57 GMT
Last year's reduction in travel didn't make much of an impact. "Any hopes that pandemic lockdowns dented the build up of greenhouse gases have been dashed as a new report confirmed that global levels reached their highest on record in 2020. The coronavirus outbreak grounded flights and cleared streets around the world last year, with emissions from burning fossil fuels dropping by around 7%. But the reduction was too small to have any material impact on build up of carbon dioxide in the air, according to a global annual review. In fact CO2 levels were their highest in modern records as well as in ice core records dating back 800,000 years, with concentrations at 48% above pre-industrial values." news.sky.com/story/climate-change-global-greenhouse-gas-levels-were-highest-ever-in-2020-despite-lockdowns-study-finds-12390205 |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2021 7:47:08 GMT
Last year's reduction in travel didn't make much of an impact. "Any hopes that pandemic lockdowns dented the build up of greenhouse gases have been dashed as a new report confirmed that global levels reached their highest on record in 2020. The coronavirus outbreak grounded flights and cleared streets around the world last year, with emissions from burning fossil fuels dropping by around 7%. But the reduction was too small to have any material impact on build up of carbon dioxide in the air, according to a global annual review. In fact CO2 levels were their highest in modern records as well as in ice core records dating back 800,000 years, with concentrations at 48% above pre-industrial values." news.sky.com/story/climate-change-global-greenhouse-gas-levels-were-highest-ever-in-2020-despite-lockdowns-study-finds-12390205isn't something like 80% of pollution created by industry, maybe a few cars and planes not flying won't make the slightest difference... the term 'carbon footprint' was coined by the oil industry to place responsibility on to the individual, rather than mega industrialisation. |
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Post by stuart1974 on Aug 26, 2021 9:46:58 GMT
Last year's reduction in travel didn't make much of an impact. "Any hopes that pandemic lockdowns dented the build up of greenhouse gases have been dashed as a new report confirmed that global levels reached their highest on record in 2020. The coronavirus outbreak grounded flights and cleared streets around the world last year, with emissions from burning fossil fuels dropping by around 7%. But the reduction was too small to have any material impact on build up of carbon dioxide in the air, according to a global annual review. In fact CO2 levels were their highest in modern records as well as in ice core records dating back 800,000 years, with concentrations at 48% above pre-industrial values." news.sky.com/story/climate-change-global-greenhouse-gas-levels-were-highest-ever-in-2020-despite-lockdowns-study-finds-12390205isn't something like 80% of pollution created by industry, maybe a few cars and planes not flying won't make the slightest difference... the term 'carbon footprint' was coined by the oil industry to place responsibility on to the individual, rather than mega industrialisation. US figures, but I suspect they are broadly comparable: The primary sources of greenhouse gas emissions in the United States are: Transportation (29 percent of 2019 greenhouse gas emissions) – The transportation sector generates the largest share of greenhouse gas emissions. Greenhouse gas emissions from transportation primarily come from burning fossil fuel for our cars, trucks, ships, trains, and planes. Over 90 percent of the fuel used for transportation is petroleum based, which includes primarily gasoline and diesel. Electricity production (25 percent of 2019 greenhouse gas emissions) – Electricity production generates the second largest share of greenhouse gas emissions. Approximately 62 percent of our electricity comes from burning fossil fuels, mostly coal and natural gas. Industry (23 percent of 2019 greenhouse gas emissions) – Greenhouse gas emissions from industry primarily come from burning fossil fuels for energy, as well as greenhouse gas emissions from certain chemical reactions necessary to produce goods from raw materials. Commercial and Residential (13 percent of 2019 greenhouse gas emissions) – Greenhouse gas emissions from businesses and homes arise primarily from fossil fuels burned for heat, the use of certain products that contain greenhouse gases, and the handling of waste. Agriculture (10 percent of 2019 greenhouse gas emissions) – Greenhouse gas emissions from agriculture come from livestock such as cows, agricultural soils, and rice production. Land Use and Forestry (12 percent of 2019 greenhouse gas emissions) – Land areas can act as a sink (absorbing CO2 from the atmosphere) or a source of greenhouse gas emissions. In the United States, since 1990, managed forests and other lands are a net sink, i.e., they have absorbed more CO2 from the atmosphere than they emit. www.epa.gov/ghgemissions/sources-greenhouse-gas-emissions |
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Post by stuart1974 on Aug 26, 2021 9:52:24 GMT
Or if someone wants to do the maths: "It’s no secret that transport is a key contributor to greenhouse gasses. Transport emissions – primarily road, rail, air, and marine – account for over 24% of global CO2 emissions. The transport industry can be split into two different sections: commercial freight and passenger. Commercial freight is responsible for 40% of total transportation emissions, whereas passenger travel is 60%. The world has become a smaller place, which is mostly down to the affordability and availability of flights. The number of flights taken has increased by 40% since 2010 – but does this make the aeroplane the bad guy here? Surprisingly, no! Although the CO2 emissions of flights will bring a tear to your eye, air travel only accounts for 16% of passenger transportation emissions. This means that land-based passenger travel is the prime source of emissions." www.theecoexperts.co.uk/blog/top-7-most-polluting-industries |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2021 10:37:27 GMT
isn't something like 80% of pollution created by industry, maybe a few cars and planes not flying won't make the slightest difference... the term 'carbon footprint' was coined by the oil industry to place responsibility on to the individual, rather than mega industrialisation. US figures, but I suspect they are broadly comparable: The primary sources of greenhouse gas emissions in the United States are: Transportation (29 percent of 2019 greenhouse gas emissions) – The transportation sector generates the largest share of greenhouse gas emissions. Greenhouse gas emissions from transportation primarily come from burning fossil fuel for our cars, trucks, ships, trains, and planes. Over 90 percent of the fuel used for transportation is petroleum based, which includes primarily gasoline and diesel. Electricity production (25 percent of 2019 greenhouse gas emissions) – Electricity production generates the second largest share of greenhouse gas emissions. Approximately 62 percent of our electricity comes from burning fossil fuels, mostly coal and natural gas. Industry (23 percent of 2019 greenhouse gas emissions) – Greenhouse gas emissions from industry primarily come from burning fossil fuels for energy, as well as greenhouse gas emissions from certain chemical reactions necessary to produce goods from raw materials. Commercial and Residential (13 percent of 2019 greenhouse gas emissions) – Greenhouse gas emissions from businesses and homes arise primarily from fossil fuels burned for heat, the use of certain products that contain greenhouse gases, and the handling of waste. Agriculture (10 percent of 2019 greenhouse gas emissions) – Greenhouse gas emissions from agriculture come from livestock such as cows, agricultural soils, and rice production. Land Use and Forestry (12 percent of 2019 greenhouse gas emissions) – Land areas can act as a sink (absorbing CO2 from the atmosphere) or a source of greenhouse gas emissions. In the United States, since 1990, managed forests and other lands are a net sink, i.e., they have absorbed more CO2 from the atmosphere than they emit. www.epa.gov/ghgemissions/sources-greenhouse-gas-emissions👍 no idea where i plucked the 80% from... there was something i read recently that was shocking anyway, along the lines of this - www.theguardian.com/environment/2019/oct/09/revealed-20-firms-third-carbon-emissions |
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Post by yattongas on Aug 26, 2021 13:30:46 GMT
Or if someone wants to do the maths: "It’s no secret that transport is a key contributor to greenhouse gasses. Transport emissions – primarily road, rail, air, and marine – account for over 24% of global CO2 emissions. The transport industry can be split into two different sections: commercial freight and passenger. Commercial freight is responsible for 40% of total transportation emissions, whereas passenger travel is 60%. The world has become a smaller place, which is mostly down to the affordability and availability of flights. The number of flights taken has increased by 40% since 2010 – but does this make the aeroplane the bad guy here? Surprisingly, no! Although the CO2 emissions of flights will bring a tear to your eye, air travel only accounts for 16% of passenger transportation emissions. This means that land-based passenger travel is the prime source of emissions." www.theecoexperts.co.uk/blog/top-7-most-polluting-industriesA good idea would be to import & export less to neighbours on our doorstep and instead look to buy stuff from New Zealand, Australia etc . That should help. 🙄 |
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Post by stuart1974 on Aug 26, 2021 13:53:29 GMT
Or if someone wants to do the maths: "It’s no secret that transport is a key contributor to greenhouse gasses. Transport emissions – primarily road, rail, air, and marine – account for over 24% of global CO2 emissions. The transport industry can be split into two different sections: commercial freight and passenger. Commercial freight is responsible for 40% of total transportation emissions, whereas passenger travel is 60%. The world has become a smaller place, which is mostly down to the affordability and availability of flights. The number of flights taken has increased by 40% since 2010 – but does this make the aeroplane the bad guy here? Surprisingly, no! Although the CO2 emissions of flights will bring a tear to your eye, air travel only accounts for 16% of passenger transportation emissions. This means that land-based passenger travel is the prime source of emissions." www.theecoexperts.co.uk/blog/top-7-most-polluting-industriesA good idea would be to import & export less to neighbours on our doorstep and instead look to buy stuff from New Zealand, Australia etc . That should help. 🙄 Funnily enough, my thoughts exactly. 🇬🇧🇪🇺👍 |
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Post by stuart1974 on Aug 27, 2021 9:31:04 GMT
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