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Post by peterparker on Aug 17, 2021 11:42:04 GMT
You are probably correct that it needs some input from younger fans but where are they? I have attended a number of SC meetings and Board Q&A's and the fast majority of people attending have been 40/50+ Brian Williams RIP used to be the main person challenging the SC and the BRFC board at Q&A's - not sure where that challenge will come from now? It’s chicken and egg though isn’t it. If you were 25 what would appeal to you about the SC? Exactly. It's not like there aren't younger people doing anything, but they are doing other things like GasCast. That's the sort of people The SC should be reaching out to, or utilising in some way to get them on board, or use that platform to help them
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2021 11:42:11 GMT
It’s chicken and egg though isn’t it. If you were 25 what would appeal to you about the SC? Spot on Needs someone to get in amongst its and push it forwards, we’ve been saying this years and years though. It won’t happen.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2021 11:43:01 GMT
It’s chicken and egg though isn’t it. If you were 25 what would appeal to you about the SC? Exactly. It's not like there aren't younger people doing anything, but they are doing other things like GasCast. That's the sort of people The SC should be reaching out to, or utilising in some way to get them on board, or use that platform to help them It’s clear to me that the head of the table is no longer suitable for the job, the tough part isn’t getting him out. It’s getting someone who wants the job
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Post by gregsy on Aug 17, 2021 11:44:47 GMT
You are probably correct that it needs some input from younger fans but where are they? I have attended a number of SC meetings and Board Q&A's and the fast majority of people attending have been 40/50+ Brian Williams RIP used to be the main person challenging the SC and the BRFC board at Q&A's - not sure where that challenge will come from now? It’s chicken and egg though isn’t it. If you were 25 what would appeal to you about the SC? The opportunity to wear a blazer with rovers cufflinks, and a rovers tie might have appeal.... Damn someone got there first....
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Post by baggins on Aug 17, 2021 12:01:55 GMT
It’s chicken and egg though isn’t it. If you were 25 what would appeal to you about the SC? The opportunity to wear a blazer with rovers cufflinks, and a rovers tie might have appeal.... Damn someone got there first.... Have you told them about your soup?
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Post by fanatical on Aug 17, 2021 12:48:04 GMT
You are probably correct that it needs some input from younger fans but where are they? I have attended a number of SC meetings and Board Q&A's and the fast majority of people attending have been 40/50+ Brian Williams RIP used to be the main person challenging the SC and the BRFC board at Q&A's - not sure where that challenge will come from now? It’s chicken and egg though isn’t it. If you were 25 what would appeal to you about the SC? (or a football Club at the bottom of division four for that matter?)
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Post by gregsy on Aug 17, 2021 13:03:20 GMT
It’s chicken and egg though isn’t it. If you were 25 what would appeal to you about the SC? (or a football Club at the bottom of division four for that matter?)Thats like double chicken and egg though.... We'll call it a couple of thighs and a double yolker....
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Post by Topper Gas on Aug 17, 2021 13:03:32 GMT
It’s chicken and egg though isn’t it. If you were 25 what would appeal to you about the SC? (or a football Club at the bottom of division four for that matter?)How many supporters put their names forward to be FD but were rejected for one reason or another by the committee? I doubt our league position makes any difference anyway as I can't recall a long list of younger fans wanting to join the SC committee when we were flying under DC nor in the top 4 under GC.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2021 13:18:35 GMT
It’s chicken and egg though isn’t it. If you were 25 what would appeal to you about the SC? (or a football Club at the bottom of division four for that matter?)Where the football club is in the league should have no baring on how many people join the supporters club. I stress that the SC is full of good people and i am not tarring them all with the same brush. However Jim is no longer the correct man to lead the line.
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Post by BrightonGas on Aug 17, 2021 13:22:15 GMT
With this money the Committee had intended to purchase spectator facilities and dugouts on a No.1 pitch, played on exclusively by the U-18’s and Development teams, for supporters who attend these matches. The equipment was to remain the property of the Supporters Club so that it could be transferred to another pitch if necessary. Informal discussions regarding this arrangement took place with the then Supporters Club Director and the Football Club, though no formal agreement was ever put in place. The Committee’s reaction to the Club’s demand for £50,000 was one of shock, as it came with no formal discussion taking place, simply a request to pay the money immediately. It should be said, at this point, that the money, if agreed, would go towards the specific items listed above, for the Bristol Rovers Training Ground, not a training ground owned by a third party. To the best of my knowledge neither the U-18 side or the Development side have yet played any matches at that venue. Having a look at this and their website, the SC is committed to donating all the 50-50 money to the academy, but have decided that they want to provide spectator equipment for a pitch only used for the academy at a location only owned by the club, and they want to keep ownership of that equipment. So if the training ground is not owned by the club (and it's owned by Dwane, or a similar holding company, isn't it?), no deal. If any other team plays on that pitch that the equipment is next to, no deal. If anyone else sits on the equipment, no deal. Also, 'for the supporters that attend these matches' istm basically means themselves. Doesn't seem especially magnanimous. I'm happy to buy anyone on here a new sofa, provided I choose which of your rooms it gets put in, no one else is allowed in that room, only I get to sit on it, and I still own it. This sofa proposal is really no use to me at all, can you just send me the money now please! (I see how Tom arrived at his decision)
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Post by olskooltoteender on Aug 17, 2021 13:25:38 GMT
That crossed my mind - what legal claim does the club have? SC: “Dear Mr Tom, how can we help out the club financially?” TG: “How about some cash for facilities at the training ground?” SC: “Now that’s an idea. If we do that we’d like to be able to watch the players train” TG: “No can do I’m afraid! Not allowed under the covenants of the land. But it would be great to have that cash” Next thing you know the supporters club are insisting the club ‘demanded’ the cash, and dictated how it would be used. I’m not in the know, I’m speculating massively, but it could easily be a civil conversation about how funding is being used is being twisted into something far more nefarious. That’s probably close to the truth . . .
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Post by gashead1981 on Aug 17, 2021 13:33:20 GMT
It’s chicken and egg though isn’t it. If you were 25 what would appeal to you about the SC? (or a football Club at the bottom of division four for that matter?)How many presidents club members are there at your 4th division football club?
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Aug 17, 2021 13:47:33 GMT
Well done the club for taking initiative to bring some of the lucrative money making schemes in house.
And with same swoop help defund a nepotistic organisation that puts it's own interests ahead of the club.
Well done, TG...
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Post by curlywurly on Aug 17, 2021 13:50:00 GMT
How many presidents club members are there at your 4th division football club? Werton suggested ~200, but I think he actually meant tickets sold...I'm still not sure.
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Post by Strange Gas on Aug 17, 2021 14:17:24 GMT
It’s chicken and egg though isn’t it. If you were 25 what would appeal to you about the SC? Exactly. It's not like there aren't younger people doing anything, but they are doing other things like GasCast. That's the sort of people The SC should be reaching out to, or utilising in some way to get them on board, or use that platform to help them This! My dad steered me away from it as a youth, and I’m now in my fifties! My (vague) recollection is he saw it as away travel focused, and I didn’t need that. But even less relevant in terms of its offer today (if indeed anyone not a member atm knows that). This is my supporters club right here! Heaven help me
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Post by keygas on Aug 17, 2021 14:32:55 GMT
Why don’t the football club & supporters club agree to disagree about the £50000 & donate it to the only positive thing happening at our club at the moment , which is the great work Adam Tutton & his team carry out at the clubs community trust. Hopefully their work will encourage alot of new Rovers fans for the future.
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Post by straighouttabristol on Aug 17, 2021 14:43:17 GMT
The sc has been outdated for years from the outside looking in. Seems a bunch of old fans who think they’re above other fans and love to think they have power and seem to have heroes syndrome wanting to say they’ve helped saved the club or funded parts of it. Before the wael era loved to be the source of inside information and rumours. I think they need a new chairman and a bit more youth brought into freshen it up and move with the times, they need to vote a representative for the board and then have peace talks and find a way to work with the club, as well as communicating with sc members of the ins and outs and asking the members where they want funds directed and any ideas on how to raise money and run the sc as it’s a members organisation who in reality the chairman works for. You are probably correct that it needs some input from younger fans but where are they? I have attended a number of SC meetings and Board Q&A's and the fast majority of people attending have been 40/50+ Brian Williams RIP used to be the main person challenging the SC and the BRFC board at Q&A's - not sure where that challenge will come from now? I’m under 30 and I won’t pretend I’m to clued up about the sc but from what I’ve seen and experienced they seem clicky and a bunch of mates of a certain age that don’t like outside interference, so would they listen to ideas from younger fans? Also they never seem to organise stuff younger fans would be interested in, I feel it’s outdated and needs to move with the times. The new generation of fans will have only seen the sc at war with the club and in there time if supporting rovers they would of seen wael clear the debt and get a promotion whilst not seeing anything positive the sc have done which will lead them to favour wael and look at the sc in a negative light.
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Post by stonegas on Aug 17, 2021 14:55:35 GMT
Why don’t the football club & supporters club agree to disagree about the £50000 & donate it to the only positive think happening at our club at the moment , which is the great work Adam Tutton & his team carry out at the clubs community trust. Hopefully their work will encourage alot of new Rovers fans for the future. Totally agree Adam does a wonderful job with the community trust.
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Post by stevek192 on Aug 17, 2021 15:44:40 GMT
I don't see what the problem is with the club running all financial aspects of the club including Fund raising activities. Surely the Supporters Club should be a non profit making club doing everything to SUPPORT the club rather than battle with it. IMO all money going in to a supporters club should be used to benefit its members ie cheaper away travel.
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Post by Topper Gas on Aug 17, 2021 15:47:05 GMT
Why don’t the football club & supporters club agree to disagree about the £50000 & donate it to the only positive think happening at our club at the moment , which is the great work Adam Tutton & his team carry out at the clubs community trust. Hopefully their work will encourage alot of new Rovers fans for the future. £50K seems an hell of a sum of money just to hand over to the CT purely because the SC can't agree where it's going to be spent at The Quarters. It's a bit late now but why didn't they offer to fit out the new gym with equipment, at least everybody could then see where the money's been spent.
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