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Post by Henbury Gas on Sept 21, 2021 14:47:34 GMT
without being thick, has it been proved to be false and scurrilous and what actions have been taken to stop it happening again ? Was the club involved ? was it against a member of staff or someone on here It's been reported here that an accusation was made against Wael in relation to safeguarding. It was investigated and no wrong doing found. No action needed. (If I remember correctly, the accusations were said to have been passed on to the local press?? who also decided there was nothing to investigate) There is no action that can be taken to stop people making false accusations. All of the above has been stated on here numerous times and in several similar ways. I do not know if any of it is true, I can only make my own judgement based on the sources of this stuff. Thank you Hugo for a common sense post we can all understand
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Post by SleepyGas on Sept 21, 2021 14:51:16 GMT
Jim's statement suggests it was discussed on this very forum.. anyone got a link to the thread? "The matter was never discussed further either in committee or outside until a few months back when it started being openly referred to on the ‘Gaschat’ social media forum."It's been mentioned on several threads, several times and by different posters. Only a savant with deeply worrying penchant for digging up old threads would know where to look. Should we actually consider asking GGMI to use his evil skills for good? It wasn't all that difficult... just search the forum for the keyword "safeguarding" gaschat.co.uk/search/results?captcha_id=captcha_search&what_at_least_one=safeguarding&who_only_made_by=0&display_as=0&search=Search
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Post by baggins on Sept 21, 2021 15:01:20 GMT
without being thick, has it been proved to be false and scurrilous and what actions have been taken to stop it happening again ? Was the club involved ? was it against a member of staff or someone on here It's been reported here that an accusation was made against Wael in relation to safeguarding. It was investigated and no wrong doing found. No action needed. (If I remember correctly, the accusations were said to have been passed on to the local press?? who also decided there was nothing to investigate) There is no action that can be taken to stop people making false accusations. All of the above has been stated on here numerous times and in several similar ways. I do not know if any of it is true, I can only make my own judgement based on the sources of this stuff. So someone within the SC made unfounded allegations against Wael, leaked it to the Press, and was then found to be lies and nothing but sh1t stirring? If that's true, anyone defending them needs to look long and hard at themselves.
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Post by Feeling The Blues on Sept 21, 2021 15:31:22 GMT
i cant help thinking that the £50k is the root cause of the friction between the Supporters club and the Football Club. A few years ago i was a Governor at a school and the Parents Association raised £5k for the school. The Headmistress asked for access to the funds but was refused because the PTA chairman felt that the committee should approve how the money was spent and refused to release it. The Headmistress was annoyed as she felt that they had used the schools name, their premises and their good will and she didnt see why she should come cap in hand for money that was raised in the schools name. Roll on 17 years and this seems to be happening again. i suspect that the club would love to have the volunteers giving their time to sell programmes and the 50/50 tickets but cant do that as the volunteers are working for the Supporters Club and the funds will go into their coffers and not seen by the club. Even if they now only generate half the funds on a match day, i suspect that they feel this is better than the return they have been receiving for the last few years from the supporters club and can spend the money on keeping the club going. Personally i see the money that Wael has had to spend to bankroll the club. i see that there have been no funds for 12 months and i was happy that my season ticket money last year was my small gesture towards the club that i love. Whilst understanding the original intention of using the Supporters Club funds - circumstances have changed - and if i was a member of the Supporters Club i would hope that they would be working as one with the club to ensure that we survive a really difficult period - instead of being at loggerheads. Maybe the new chair should ask the fans who buy the tickets and their own members to comment as to what they want to happen. The root causes from what I can see are the money, the safeguarding accusation and the reporting to the FA over concerns of how the club is running. I would be fairly certain that Wael would have taken a public apology for the last 2 and be willing to move on and that the suggested funds that were offered by the SC were paid honouring their agreement. Now JC has gone I would say that the apology isn’t required and that with the new chair and EC can find a way forward to work with the club. Don’t think you’re starting from the beginning there fella. The beef that the SC has with WAQ I’m guessing is more to do with their perception that he has been an inhibitor to the development of a new stadium and their belief that he has caused two viable stadium projects to collapse in order that he can remain in control at all costs. The bad will has flowed from there.
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Post by gashead1981 on Sept 21, 2021 15:49:03 GMT
I was given information by someone unconnected to the board and the SC that the SC had made a safeguarding complaint to the FA. I will not give the details, they aren’t for me to say and the club cannot comment on the specifics either I would think.
At first I couldn’t believe it to be true. So I asked the question to a few people directly, to be told it was true. I was stunned, Wael Al’Qadi might be many things, but I never in a million years had him down to be a nonce. I’ve taken my own child into the box next to his over the course of 18 months and happily watched him engage with Harry and as he is also a father himself you can tell by the way he is with kids, he is in no way a threat.
So why would someone go to these lengths?
I spoke to one of the people involved at the centre of the complaint, Paul Adulous, known as Wilf, a member of the SC and chairman of the WSM branch of the SC by phone who gave me the real inside track on what went on, why and how far it had all gone and how he was pretty disappointed by the way things had gone.
I then received an anonymous letter sent to my business following various postings I made on gaschat where I believed this was an attempt at trying to lynch Wael and the this was nothing more than a dirty tactic which had no foundation.
In that letter was an unsigned note that had been computer printed saying that it wasn’t an attempt at a lynch but a very real complaint and it included a copy of the letter that was drafted to make the original complaint. I still do not know who sent me that letter. Although looking at the diction, or rather lack of, I have my suspicions.
I showed that to Wael, I felt I had a duty to do so that this information was so brazenly being passed around and that if someone had sent it to me, who else had they sent it to? Wael confirmed it was the letter that he had also seen.
Wael explained that he had been fully investigated by the FA, Council, Police and they had found nothing so I wasn’t to worry. I was happy with that explanation.
I sent Jim an email back in July after I had received some information that Steve Hamer and Ken Masters were colluding on this safeguarding matter. I never accused JC of being apart of it, in fact I said I hoped that he didn’t know about it and that I was willing to show him what I had, in the hope that he might realise the massive mistake he has made in backing Masters and that if he didn’t know about it, he has the opportunity to make it right.
Jim never replied and I’ve subsequently found out via his press release that rather than speak to me, he would rather speak to the SCs solicitors and ignore the elephant that was in the room and clearly the main thrust of his demise.
By his ignorance I’ll assume he did know, even if he wasn’t involved directly, and if he did know, he was complicit by not dealing with it appropriately.
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Sept 21, 2021 16:33:32 GMT
The root causes from what I can see are the money, the safeguarding accusation and the reporting to the FA over concerns of how the club is running. I would be fairly certain that Wael would have taken a public apology for the last 2 and be willing to move on and that the suggested funds that were offered by the SC were paid honouring their agreement. Now JC has gone I would say that the apology isn’t required and that with the new chair and EC can find a way forward to work with the club. Don’t think you’re starting from the beginning there fella. The beef that the SC has with WAQ I’m guessing is more to do with their perception that he has been an inhibitor to the development of a new stadium and their belief that he has caused two viable stadium projects to collapse in order that he can remain in control at all costs. The bad will has flowed from there. With respect, you are guessing at their perception. That's basically a nice way of saying you've pulled it out of your ass. I could just so easily say I'm guessing the SC don't like Wael because of their perception of anyone who isn't from Bristol. Something that very sadly has been brought up on this very forum only recently. Unless we know, everything is just opinion and conjecture. I include in that 81s post above. Personally I am inclined to believe him, but I don't really know if he is telling the truth but its still better than me believing something based on nothing more than guessed perception. I am happy to be convinced otherwise, but would need some decent evidence because frankly I don't believe anything said by JC or KM.
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Post by Feeling The Blues on Sept 21, 2021 16:56:50 GMT
Don’t think you’re starting from the beginning there fella. The beef that the SC has with WAQ I’m guessing is more to do with their perception that he has been an inhibitor to the development of a new stadium and their belief that he has caused two viable stadium projects to collapse in order that he can remain in control at all costs. The bad will has flowed from there. With respect, you are guessing at their perception. That's basically a nice way of saying you've pulled it out of your ass. I could just so easily say I'm guessing the SC don't like Wael because of their perception of anyone who isn't from Bristol. Something that very sadly has been brought up on this very forum only recently. Unless we know, everything is just opinion and conjecture. I include in that 81s post above. Personally I am inclined to believe him, but I don't really know if he is telling the truth but its still better than me believing something based on nothing more than guessed perception. I am happy to be convinced otherwise, but would need some decent evidence because frankly I don't believe anything said by JC or KM. Ok Hugo. It’s a fairly informed guess I’m afraid but it would be good if the SC had actually put the detail of their full discontent, and rational out there for all supporters to see rather than embark on the cack handed and embarrassing attempt to discredit WAQ. They need to stop talking in riddles and put the whole truth (as they see it) of the last 4 years out there and then let the general support take a view on the hero’s and villains of our sorry demise. They don’t have much to lose now do they? Apart from maybe their football club!
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Post by Hudson1883 on Sept 21, 2021 17:39:07 GMT
With respect, you are guessing at their perception. That's basically a nice way of saying you've pulled it out of your ass. I could just so easily say I'm guessing the SC don't like Wael because of their perception of anyone who isn't from Bristol. Something that very sadly has been brought up on this very forum only recently. Unless we know, everything is just opinion and conjecture. I include in that 81s post above. Personally I am inclined to believe him, but I don't really know if he is telling the truth but its still better than me believing something based on nothing more than guessed perception. I am happy to be convinced otherwise, but would need some decent evidence because frankly I don't believe anything said by JC or KM. Ok Hugo. It’s a fairly informed guess I’m afraid but it would be good if the SC had actually put the detail of their full discontent, and rational out there for all supporters to see rather than embark on the cack handed and embarrassing attempt to discredit WAQ. They need to stop talking in riddles and put the whole truth (as they see it) of the last 4 years out there and then let the general support take a view on the hero’s and villains of our sorry demise. They don’t have much to lose now do they? Apart from maybe their football club! Interesting that you mention only the last 4 years. I’m sure yourself and many others cannot fathom why JC’s trap didn’t seem to open half as much before this period, even during a relegation to Non League for the first time in our history & seemingly taken to the brink of bankruptcy, via payday loans etc… Not so much as a murmur of discontent, most curious.
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Post by herbertblake on Sept 21, 2021 17:52:08 GMT
199 Two Mile Hill Road was purchased by BRSC following the sale of the Stapleton Road premises. The Football Club were in dire straights unable to afford rent on the portacabins at Somerdale Fry's in Keynsham so BRSC offered the club the 199 premises as club offices in the about 1986 following our move to Bath. The arrangement went well saving club massive rent and the commercial team Tony Wood Graham Bowen worked from Kingswood too. Then the club offices moved to The Beeches Geoff Dunfords premises in early 1990s and BRSC returned to use 199 for selling match day tickets souvenirs shirts away travel mainly because bank would not give BRFC a card machine due to their poor credit record. The loss of kit and opportunity to sale match tickets meant the shop became uneconomic as the club took everything in house. Hence the decision to sell 199 and funds put into their funds.
Hope this helps explain the history.
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Sept 21, 2021 18:40:00 GMT
With respect, you are guessing at their perception. That's basically a nice way of saying you've pulled it out of your ass. I could just so easily say I'm guessing the SC don't like Wael because of their perception of anyone who isn't from Bristol. Something that very sadly has been brought up on this very forum only recently. Unless we know, everything is just opinion and conjecture. I include in that 81s post above. Personally I am inclined to believe him, but I don't really know if he is telling the truth but its still better than me believing something based on nothing more than guessed perception. I am happy to be convinced otherwise, but would need some decent evidence because frankly I don't believe anything said by JC or KM. Ok Hugo. It’s a fairly informed guess I’m afraid but it would be good if the SC had actually put the detail of their full discontent, and rational out there for all supporters to see rather than embark on the cack handed and embarrassing attempt to discredit WAQ. They need to stop talking in riddles and put the whole truth (as they see it) of the last 4 years out there and then let the general support take a view on the hero’s and villains of our sorry demise. They don’t have much to lose now do they? Apart from maybe their football club! I completely agree with you.
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Post by gashead1981 on Sept 21, 2021 21:05:54 GMT
199 Two Mile Hill Road was purchased by BRSC following the sale of the Stapleton Road premises. The Football Club were in dire straights unable to afford rent on the portacabins at Somerdale Fry's in Keynsham so BRSC offered the club the 199 premises as club offices in the about 1986 following our move to Bath. The arrangement went well saving club massive rent and the commercial team Tony Wood Graham Bowen worked from Kingswood too. Then the club offices moved to The Beeches Geoff Dunfords premises in early 1990s and BRSC returned to use 199 for selling match day tickets souvenirs shirts away travel mainly because bank would not give BRFC a card machine due to their poor credit record. The loss of kit and opportunity to sale match tickets meant the shop became uneconomic as the club took everything in house. Hence the decision to sell 199 and funds put into their funds. Hope this helps explain the history. Who bought Stapleton Road? Or was it gifted? The shop was uneconomical anyway long before the shirt and merchandise sales were taken away because the profits from such items were going to paying the shops expenses rather than going in to the club. It was one of the most obvious decisions the club had to make. The shop had also fallen into quite the state of disrepair im led to believe so they couldnt maximise their asset in the end either.
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Post by RD on Sept 21, 2021 21:31:09 GMT
I was given information by someone unconnected to the board and the SC that the SC had made a safeguarding complaint to the FA. I will not give the details, they aren’t for me to say and the club cannot comment on the specifics either I would think. At first I couldn’t believe it to be true. So I asked the question to a few people directly, to be told it was true. I was stunned, Wael Al’Qadi might be many things, but I never in a million years had him down to be a nonce. I’ve taken my own child into the box next to his over the course of 18 months and happily watched him engage with Harry and as he is also a father himself you can tell by the way he is with kids, he is in no way a threat. So why would someone go to these lengths? I spoke to one of the people involved at the centre of the complaint, Paul Adulous, known as Wilf, a member of the SC and chairman of the WSM branch of the SC by phone who gave me the real inside track on what went on, why and how far it had all gone and how he was pretty disappointed by the way things had gone. I then received an anonymous letter sent to my business following various postings I made on gaschat where I believed this was an attempt at trying to lynch Wael and the this was nothing more than a dirty tactic which had no foundation. In that letter was an unsigned note that had been computer printed saying that it wasn’t an attempt at a lynch but a very real complaint and it included a copy of the letter that was drafted to make the original complaint. I still do not know who sent me that letter. Although looking at the diction, or rather lack of, I have my suspicions. I showed that to Wael, I felt I had a duty to do so that this information was so brazenly being passed around and that if someone had sent it to me, who else had they sent it to? Wael confirmed it was the letter that he had also seen. Wael explained that he had been fully investigated by the FA, Council, Police and they had found nothing so I wasn’t to worry. I was happy with that explanation. I sent Jim an email back in July after I had received some information that Steve Hamer and Ken Masters were colluding on this safeguarding matter. I never accused JC of being apart of it, in fact I said I hoped that he didn’t know about it and that I was willing to show him what I had, in the hope that he might realise the massive mistake he has made in backing Masters and that if he didn’t know about it, he has the opportunity to make it right. Jim never replied and I’ve subsequently found out via his press release that rather than speak to me, he would rather speak to the SCs solicitors and ignore the elephant that was in the room and clearly the main thrust of his demise. By his ignorance I’ll assume he did know, even if he wasn’t involved directly, and if he did know, he was complicit by not dealing with it appropriately. FWIW, I think you handled the situation perfectly and in a dignified manner. Massive respect to you. It’s a shame some on here feel the need to “stir”.
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Post by cj on Sept 21, 2021 22:18:19 GMT
I was given information by someone unconnected to the board and the SC that the SC had made a safeguarding complaint to the FA. I will not give the details, they aren’t for me to say and the club cannot comment on the specifics either I would think. At first I couldn’t believe it to be true. So I asked the question to a few people directly, to be told it was true. I was stunned, Wael Al’Qadi might be many things, but I never in a million years had him down to be a nonce. I’ve taken my own child into the box next to his over the course of 18 months and happily watched him engage with Harry and as he is also a father himself you can tell by the way he is with kids, he is in no way a threat. So why would someone go to these lengths? I spoke to one of the people involved at the centre of the complaint, Paul Adulous, known as Wilf, a member of the SC and chairman of the WSM branch of the SC by phone who gave me the real inside track on what went on, why and how far it had all gone and how he was pretty disappointed by the way things had gone. I then received an anonymous letter sent to my business following various postings I made on gaschat where I believed this was an attempt at trying to lynch Wael and the this was nothing more than a dirty tactic which had no foundation. In that letter was an unsigned note that had been computer printed saying that it wasn’t an attempt at a lynch but a very real complaint and it included a copy of the letter that was drafted to make the original complaint. I still do not know who sent me that letter. Although looking at the diction, or rather lack of, I have my suspicions. I showed that to Wael, I felt I had a duty to do so that this information was so brazenly being passed around and that if someone had sent it to me, who else had they sent it to? Wael confirmed it was the letter that he had also seen. Wael explained that he had been fully investigated by the FA, Council, Police and they had found nothing so I wasn’t to worry. I was happy with that explanation. I sent Jim an email back in July after I had received some information that Steve Hamer and Ken Masters were colluding on this safeguarding matter. I never accused JC of being apart of it, in fact I said I hoped that he didn’t know about it and that I was willing to show him what I had, in the hope that he might realise the massive mistake he has made in backing Masters and that if he didn’t know about it, he has the opportunity to make it right. Jim never replied and I’ve subsequently found out via his press release that rather than speak to me, he would rather speak to the SCs solicitors and ignore the elephant that was in the room and clearly the main thrust of his demise. By his ignorance I’ll assume he did know, even if he wasn’t involved directly, and if he did know, he was complicit by not dealing with it appropriately. This email you sent in July, do you still have a copy of it? Not for us to see but for you to use to defend yourself if his solicitors come calling.
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Post by gashead1981 on Sept 21, 2021 22:18:58 GMT
I was given information by someone unconnected to the board and the SC that the SC had made a safeguarding complaint to the FA. I will not give the details, they aren’t for me to say and the club cannot comment on the specifics either I would think. At first I couldn’t believe it to be true. So I asked the question to a few people directly, to be told it was true. I was stunned, Wael Al’Qadi might be many things, but I never in a million years had him down to be a nonce. I’ve taken my own child into the box next to his over the course of 18 months and happily watched him engage with Harry and as he is also a father himself you can tell by the way he is with kids, he is in no way a threat. So why would someone go to these lengths? I spoke to one of the people involved at the centre of the complaint, Paul Adulous, known as Wilf, a member of the SC and chairman of the WSM branch of the SC by phone who gave me the real inside track on what went on, why and how far it had all gone and how he was pretty disappointed by the way things had gone. I then received an anonymous letter sent to my business following various postings I made on gaschat where I believed this was an attempt at trying to lynch Wael and the this was nothing more than a dirty tactic which had no foundation. In that letter was an unsigned note that had been computer printed saying that it wasn’t an attempt at a lynch but a very real complaint and it included a copy of the letter that was drafted to make the original complaint. I still do not know who sent me that letter. Although looking at the diction, or rather lack of, I have my suspicions. I showed that to Wael, I felt I had a duty to do so that this information was so brazenly being passed around and that if someone had sent it to me, who else had they sent it to? Wael confirmed it was the letter that he had also seen. Wael explained that he had been fully investigated by the FA, Council, Police and they had found nothing so I wasn’t to worry. I was happy with that explanation. I sent Jim an email back in July after I had received some information that Steve Hamer and Ken Masters were colluding on this safeguarding matter. I never accused JC of being apart of it, in fact I said I hoped that he didn’t know about it and that I was willing to show him what I had, in the hope that he might realise the massive mistake he has made in backing Masters and that if he didn’t know about it, he has the opportunity to make it right. Jim never replied and I’ve subsequently found out via his press release that rather than speak to me, he would rather speak to the SCs solicitors and ignore the elephant that was in the room and clearly the main thrust of his demise. By his ignorance I’ll assume he did know, even if he wasn’t involved directly, and if he did know, he was complicit by not dealing with it appropriately. FWIW, I think you handled the situation perfectly and in a dignified manner. Massive respect to you. It’s a shame some on here feel the need to “stir”. Thanks RD. The ones who do stir usually fall on their own sword eventually....
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Post by gashead1981 on Sept 21, 2021 22:19:45 GMT
I was given information by someone unconnected to the board and the SC that the SC had made a safeguarding complaint to the FA. I will not give the details, they aren’t for me to say and the club cannot comment on the specifics either I would think. At first I couldn’t believe it to be true. So I asked the question to a few people directly, to be told it was true. I was stunned, Wael Al’Qadi might be many things, but I never in a million years had him down to be a nonce. I’ve taken my own child into the box next to his over the course of 18 months and happily watched him engage with Harry and as he is also a father himself you can tell by the way he is with kids, he is in no way a threat. So why would someone go to these lengths? I spoke to one of the people involved at the centre of the complaint, Paul Adulous, known as Wilf, a member of the SC and chairman of the WSM branch of the SC by phone who gave me the real inside track on what went on, why and how far it had all gone and how he was pretty disappointed by the way things had gone. I then received an anonymous letter sent to my business following various postings I made on gaschat where I believed this was an attempt at trying to lynch Wael and the this was nothing more than a dirty tactic which had no foundation. In that letter was an unsigned note that had been computer printed saying that it wasn’t an attempt at a lynch but a very real complaint and it included a copy of the letter that was drafted to make the original complaint. I still do not know who sent me that letter. Although looking at the diction, or rather lack of, I have my suspicions. I showed that to Wael, I felt I had a duty to do so that this information was so brazenly being passed around and that if someone had sent it to me, who else had they sent it to? Wael confirmed it was the letter that he had also seen. Wael explained that he had been fully investigated by the FA, Council, Police and they had found nothing so I wasn’t to worry. I was happy with that explanation. I sent Jim an email back in July after I had received some information that Steve Hamer and Ken Masters were colluding on this safeguarding matter. I never accused JC of being apart of it, in fact I said I hoped that he didn’t know about it and that I was willing to show him what I had, in the hope that he might realise the massive mistake he has made in backing Masters and that if he didn’t know about it, he has the opportunity to make it right. Jim never replied and I’ve subsequently found out via his press release that rather than speak to me, he would rather speak to the SCs solicitors and ignore the elephant that was in the room and clearly the main thrust of his demise. By his ignorance I’ll assume he did know, even if he wasn’t involved directly, and if he did know, he was complicit by not dealing with it appropriately. This email you sent in July, do you still have a copy of it? Not for us to see but for you to use to defend yourself if his solicitors come calling. I do. Along with the evidence that Hamer and Masters were colluding together.
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Post by Feeling The Blues on Sept 21, 2021 22:39:23 GMT
I was given information by someone unconnected to the board and the SC that the SC had made a safeguarding complaint to the FA. I will not give the details, they aren’t for me to say and the club cannot comment on the specifics either I would think. At first I couldn’t believe it to be true. So I asked the question to a few people directly, to be told it was true. I was stunned, Wael Al’Qadi might be many things, but I never in a million years had him down to be a nonce. I’ve taken my own child into the box next to his over the course of 18 months and happily watched him engage with Harry and as he is also a father himself you can tell by the way he is with kids, he is in no way a threat. So why would someone go to these lengths? I spoke to one of the people involved at the centre of the complaint, Paul Adulous, known as Wilf, a member of the SC and chairman of the WSM branch of the SC by phone who gave me the real inside track on what went on, why and how far it had all gone and how he was pretty disappointed by the way things had gone. I then received an anonymous letter sent to my business following various postings I made on gaschat where I believed this was an attempt at trying to lynch Wael and the this was nothing more than a dirty tactic which had no foundation. In that letter was an unsigned note that had been computer printed saying that it wasn’t an attempt at a lynch but a very real complaint and it included a copy of the letter that was drafted to make the original complaint. I still do not know who sent me that letter. Although looking at the diction, or rather lack of, I have my suspicions. I showed that to Wael, I felt I had a duty to do so that this information was so brazenly being passed around and that if someone had sent it to me, who else had they sent it to? Wael confirmed it was the letter that he had also seen. Wael explained that he had been fully investigated by the FA, Council, Police and they had found nothing so I wasn’t to worry. I was happy with that explanation. I sent Jim an email back in July after I had received some information that Steve Hamer and Ken Masters were colluding on this safeguarding matter. I never accused JC of being apart of it, in fact I said I hoped that he didn’t know about it and that I was willing to show him what I had, in the hope that he might realise the massive mistake he has made in backing Masters and that if he didn’t know about it, he has the opportunity to make it right. Jim never replied and I’ve subsequently found out via his press release that rather than speak to me, he would rather speak to the SCs solicitors and ignore the elephant that was in the room and clearly the main thrust of his demise. By his ignorance I’ll assume he did know, even if he wasn’t involved directly, and if he did know, he was complicit by not dealing with it appropriately. FWIW, I think you handled the situation perfectly and in a dignified manner. Massive respect to you. It’s a shame some on here feel the need to “stir”. Yep, let’s ban everyone who doesn’t toe the party line. Let’s ban everyone who isn’t indoctrinated by our mighty leader. Let’s turn this place into Pravda.
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Post by oldie on Sept 22, 2021 3:23:43 GMT
This email you sent in July, do you still have a copy of it? Not for us to see but for you to use to defend yourself if his solicitors come calling. I do. Along with the evidence that Hamer and Masters were colluding together. If all this is true, I am inclined to believe you, I am rather surprised Wael did not seek legal redress, given the actions of the two people you mention.
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Post by CheshireGas on Sept 22, 2021 7:38:20 GMT
There is no action that can be taken to stop people making false accusations. They can be sued for defamation of character. If the accusation is as has been reported on GasChat I think WAQ would be well within his rights to sue JC [if it was him who made it public to the press]. However it might also be those who claimed/reported the contents of the letter on here as well as JC. Most people wouldn't know about the claim previously [as far as I am aware] as the press didn't publish the accusation. I personally didn't know about what was supposed to be in the charge until it was made public on here. A reason mods have to be very careful.
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Post by oldie on Sept 22, 2021 7:53:27 GMT
There is no action that can be taken to stop people making false accusations. They can be sued for defamation of character. If the accusation is as has been reported on GasChat I think WAQ would be well within his rights to sue JC [if it was him who made it public to the press]. However it might also be those who claimed/reported the contents of the letter on here as well as JC. Most people wouldn't know about the claim previously [as far as I am aware] as the press didn't publish the accusation. I personally didn't know about what was supposed to be in the charge until it was made public on here. A reason mods have to be very careful. Now that it's been laid out on here...silence from the named people would be damming in itself.
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Post by gashead1981 on Sept 22, 2021 7:55:43 GMT
There is no action that can be taken to stop people making false accusations. They can be sued for defamation of character. If the accusation is as has been reported on GasChat I think WAQ would be well within his rights to sue JC [if it was him who made it public to the press]. However it might also be those who claimed/reported the contents of the letter on here as well as JC. Most people wouldn't know about the claim previously [as far as I am aware] as the press didn't publish the accusation. I personally didn't know about what was supposed to be in the charge until it was made public on here. A reason mods have to be very careful. It was passed around long before it was raised on here and someone was happy to also pass the letter around which is how it came to be in my possession. Perhaps the reason that Wael didnt do anything is a mark of his character, that he was happy for it all to just go away should the SC start behaving themselves. Perhaps the last action of removing the 5050 draw was retribution enough without having a long and protracted court case which would become very public.
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