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Post by 2nd May 1990 on Dec 16, 2021 13:55:32 GMT
was he here when Mr Payne signed or was that down to Dc.Worst player I have seen in a Rovers shirt.Compare his attitude with the squad we have got now That was all DC. In fairness to TW he told him not to. If that’s true, it shows how DC unfortunately lost it a bit at the end with us. He got us to where he got us by signing hard working players with a good attitude. I guess the further we went, the harder it became to make uncomplicated signings but if he’d stuck with his guns and maybe been dealt a slightly better hand (remembering that Payne was basically a panic buy because we found ourselves with no number 9 and having lost three quality strikers in quick succession) then he might still be here now and we might still be in division one. |
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Post by pirate on Dec 16, 2021 14:04:19 GMT
That was all DC. In fairness to TW he told him not to. If that’s true, it shows how DC unfortunately lost it a bit at the end with us. He got us to where he got us by signing hard working players with a good attitude. I guess the further we went, the harder it became to make uncomplicated signings but if he’d stuck with his guns and maybe been dealt a slightly better hand (remembering that Payne was basically a panic buy because we found ourselves with no number 9 and having lost three quality strikers in quick succession) then he might still be here now and we might still be in division one. All managers make mistakes in the transfer market. Some might say DC had done enough with back to back promotions, highest average attendances in decades and a net profit in transfer fees to be given the chance to turn things around, obviously Wael thought differently. |
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Post by aghast on Dec 16, 2021 17:03:19 GMT
If that’s true, it shows how DC unfortunately lost it a bit at the end with us. He got us to where he got us by signing hard working players with a good attitude. I guess the further we went, the harder it became to make uncomplicated signings but if he’d stuck with his guns and maybe been dealt a slightly better hand (remembering that Payne was basically a panic buy because we found ourselves with no number 9 and having lost three quality strikers in quick succession) then he might still be here now and we might still be in division one. All managers make mistakes in the transfer market. Some might say DC had done enough with back to back promotions, highest average attendances in decades and a net profit in transfer fees to be given the chance to turn things around, obviously Wael thought differently. Ah, the heady days when Wael sacked managers if he thought they couldn't get us into the Championship. Standards are rather lower now. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2021 17:23:23 GMT
That was all DC. In fairness to TW he told him not to. If that’s true, it shows how DC unfortunately lost it a bit at the end with us. He got us to where he got us by signing hard working players with a good attitude. I guess the further we went, the harder it became to make uncomplicated signings but if he’d stuck with his guns and maybe been dealt a slightly better hand (remembering that Payne was basically a panic buy because we found ourselves with no number 9 and having lost three quality strikers in quick succession) then he might still be here now and we might still be in division one. I’d imagine he got some sort of reference from his good friend Paul Hurst. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Dec 16, 2021 19:27:54 GMT
If that’s true, it shows how DC unfortunately lost it a bit at the end with us. He got us to where he got us by signing hard working players with a good attitude. I guess the further we went, the harder it became to make uncomplicated signings but if he’d stuck with his guns and maybe been dealt a slightly better hand (remembering that Payne was basically a panic buy because we found ourselves with no number 9 and having lost three quality strikers in quick succession) then he might still be here now and we might still be in division one. All managers make mistakes in the transfer market. Some might say DC had done enough with back to back promotions, highest average attendances in decades and a net profit in transfer fees to be given the chance to turn things around, obviously Wael thought differently. There was no way DC could remain as manager after his post Doncaster thrashing presser, as far as TW advising DC not to sign Payne, it's a bit odd that's never been suggested previously, although the Coventry player who turned us down for a move to Walsall did little better. It does seem TW's scouting network was probably non-existent. |
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Post by warehamgas on Dec 16, 2021 21:33:45 GMT
All managers make mistakes in the transfer market. Some might say DC had done enough with back to back promotions, highest average attendances in decades and a net profit in transfer fees to be given the chance to turn things around, obviously Wael thought differently. There was no way DC could remain as manager after his post Doncaster thrashing presser, as far as TW advising DC not to sign Payne, it's a bit odd that's never been suggested previously, although the Coventry player who turned us down for a move to Walsall did little better. It does seem TW's scouting network was probably non-existent. ...probably! More assumptions. Unless you definitely know of course. 🤔 UTG! |
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Post by pirate on Dec 16, 2021 21:45:24 GMT
There was no way DC could remain as manager after his post Doncaster thrashing presser, as far as TW advising DC not to sign Payne, it's a bit odd that's never been suggested previously, although the Coventry player who turned us down for a move to Walsall did little better. It does seem TW's scouting network was probably non-existent. ...probably! More assumptions. Unless you definitely know of course. 🤔 UTG! He doesn't know. Obviously. |
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Post by pirate on Dec 16, 2021 22:14:49 GMT
All managers make mistakes in the transfer market. Some might say DC had done enough with back to back promotions, highest average attendances in decades and a net profit in transfer fees to be given the chance to turn things around, obviously Wael thought differently. There was no way DC could remain as manager after his post Doncaster thrashing presser, as far as TW advising DC not to sign Payne, it's a bit odd that's never been suggested previously, although the Coventry player who turned us down for a move to Walsall did little better. It does seem TW's scouting network was probably non-existent. Strange how Tommy has previously managed to help build a promotion winning squad at this level during his time as Head of Recruitment at Coventry then. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Dec 16, 2021 22:36:34 GMT
There was no way DC could remain as manager after his post Doncaster thrashing presser, as far as TW advising DC not to sign Payne, it's a bit odd that's never been suggested previously, although the Coventry player who turned us down for a move to Walsall did little better. It does seem TW's scouting network was probably non-existent. Strange how Tommy has previously managed to help build a promotion winning squad at this level during his time as Head of Recruitment at Coventry then. TW was only at Coventry for one season, did he really build an entire promotion squad in just two transfer windows? I always thought it a bit odd how we head hunted Coventry's HoR, the fact he failed with us and has now reverted to non league management probably explains why Coventry let him join us. |
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Post by pirate on Dec 16, 2021 23:05:54 GMT
Strange how Tommy has previously managed to help build a promotion winning squad at this level during his time as Head of Recruitment at Coventry then. TW was only at Coventry for one season, did he really build an entire promotion squad in just two transfer windows? I always thought it a bit odd how we head hunted Coventry's HoR, the fact he failed with us and has now reverted to non league management probably explains why Coventry let him join us. "He oversaw a big turnaround in players last summer when City signed 11 new players, and a further three on loan in the January transfer window." www.coventrytelegraph.net/sport/football/football-news/coventry-citys-head-recruitment-leaves-14599482 |
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Post by oliverhelmet on Dec 17, 2021 9:26:31 GMT
All managers make mistakes in the transfer market. Some might say DC had done enough with back to back promotions, highest average attendances in decades and a net profit in transfer fees to be given the chance to turn things around, obviously Wael thought differently. There was no way DC could remain as manager after his post Doncaster thrashing presser, as far as TW advising DC not to sign Payne, it's a bit odd that's never been suggested previously, although the Coventry player who turned us down for a move to Walsall did little better. It does seem TW's scouting network was probably non-existent. I think it’s fairly safe to safe DC wanted out by that time as he had become so disillusioned with the whole no progress on training ground and stadium situation.He engineered his own departure in the end. |
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Post by basel on Dec 17, 2021 14:04:23 GMT
I think it vital all within the fc sing from the 'Joe Barton Chorus'.
Afraid Tommy Widdrington never had a copy.
A good move for the man and Rovers.
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Post by warehamgas on Dec 17, 2021 16:10:12 GMT
I think it vital all within the fc sing from the 'Joe Barton Chorus'. Afraid Tommy Widdrington never had a copy. A good move for the man and Rovers. Nice to see you on here basel. But im worried you think JB has a blue print (Joe Barton Chorus) that we all have to sing from. I’ll just continue to support BRFC. 👍 UTG! |
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Post by peterparker on Dec 17, 2021 16:12:37 GMT
out of The Strictly Final
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Dec 18, 2021 5:31:46 GMT
TW was only at Coventry for one season, did he really build an entire promotion squad in just two transfer windows? I always thought it a bit odd how we head hunted Coventry's HoR, the fact he failed with us and has now reverted to non league management probably explains why Coventry let him join us. "He oversaw a big turnaround in players last summer when City signed 11 new players, and a further three on loan in the January transfer window." www.coventrytelegraph.net/sport/football/football-news/coventry-citys-head-recruitment-leaves-14599482And yet didn't he also say that he worked 3 windows in the future or some such nonsense? |
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Post by pirate on Dec 18, 2021 6:17:50 GMT
And yet didn't he also say that he worked 3 windows in the future or some such nonsense? Some such nonsense? He said he worked 2 windows ahead and surely you want the recruitment team to plan ahead and stay on top of contract situations and monitor future targets with proper due diligence? It's what any scouting network should do.
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Dec 18, 2021 6:36:14 GMT
And yet didn't he also say that he worked 3 windows in the future or some such nonsense? Some such nonsense? He said he worked 2 windows ahead and surely you want the recruitment team to plan ahead and stay on top of contract situations and monitor future targets with proper due diligence? It's what any scouting network should do.
I think you misunderstood me. If he works 2 windows ahead then how is he responsible for improvement in just 11 months that would include a maximum of 2 windows? Wouldn't you expect to see his work start after 18 months That's the nonsense bit. Sorry I probably should have been clearer. |
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Post by pirate on Dec 18, 2021 6:47:49 GMT
Some such nonsense? He said he worked 2 windows ahead and surely you want the recruitment team to plan ahead and stay on top of contract situations and monitor future targets with proper due diligence? It's what any scouting network should do.
I think you misunderstood me. If he works 2 windows ahead then how is he responsible for improvement in just 11 months that would include a maximum of 2 windows? Wouldn't you expect to see his work start after 18 months That's the nonsense bit. Sorry I probably should have been clearer. He's constantly watching players and planning ahead for various scenarios, so obviously when he joined Coventry he had a list of targets ready to go. A successful job done too with the 14 signings helping them get promoted. |
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Dec 18, 2021 6:49:30 GMT
I think you misunderstood me. If he works 2 windows ahead then how is he responsible for improvement in just 11 months that would include a maximum of 2 windows? Wouldn't you expect to see his work start after 18 months That's the nonsense bit. Sorry I probably should have been clearer. He's constantly watching players and planning ahead for various scenarios, so obviously when he joined Coventry he had a list of targets ready to go. A successful job done too with the 14 signings helping them get promoted. Fair enough. sh** for us though wasn't he. |
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Post by pirate on Dec 18, 2021 6:56:09 GMT
He's constantly watching players and planning ahead for various scenarios, so obviously when he joined Coventry he had a list of targets ready to go. A successful job done too with the 14 signings helping them get promoted. Fair enough. sh** for us though wasn't he. Definitely made mistakes that's for sure, but I think even he would admit that. |
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