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Post by pirate on Dec 18, 2021 15:35:16 GMT
He'll be managing Josh Barrett! Barrett gets a brace in his first game under TW. Goal again today.
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Post by lastminutewinner on Dec 18, 2021 15:37:02 GMT
Barrett gets a brace in his first game under TW. Goal again today. He has done more in a few games for them, than he did in his whole Rovers career
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Post by pirate on Dec 18, 2021 16:11:38 GMT
2nd goal of the game for Josh Barrett.
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Post by Tilly's Thighs on Dec 18, 2021 16:17:47 GMT
2nd goal of the game for Josh Barrett. Really pleased for the lad, hope he keeps this form up.
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Post by basel on Dec 18, 2021 17:40:57 GMT
I think it vital all within the fc sing from the 'Joe Barton Chorus'. Afraid Tommy Widdrington never had a copy. A good move for the man and Rovers. Nice to see you on here basel. But im worried you think JB has a blue print (Joe Barton Chorus) that we all have to sing from. I’ll just continue to support BRFC. 👍 UTG! Thanks Wareham. My support of JB is purely based on how important I think it is that those employed by Rovers all sing from the Joe Barton Chorus.For too long it has seemed too many people within the club put their egos before the club.No good.A 'united' Rovers will succeed imo. Supporting the club is what we do I suppose. 👍
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Post by Topper Gas on Dec 18, 2021 22:05:06 GMT
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Post by pirate on Dec 18, 2021 22:06:25 GMT
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Dec 19, 2021 8:21:52 GMT
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Post by Topper Gas on Dec 19, 2021 13:20:08 GMT
So which league goalie is ever going to save that shot?
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Post by warehamgas on Dec 19, 2021 15:24:44 GMT
Good luck to him, I hope it goes well. But he’s scored against Dover, the whipping boys of the National and Nantwich Town. He might have done the same against teams in League 2 but I’m not sure. And who’s place would he have taken? Finley or Evans? I hope these are the first steps for his returning to a level his talent should have him playing at, if everyone is to be believed. But we all know success comes with talent alongside hard work and discipline. He now needs to show he has the last two attributes. 👍
UTG!
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Post by Topper Gas on Dec 19, 2021 16:02:44 GMT
Good luck to him, I hope it goes well. But he’s scored against Dover, the whipping boys of the National and Nantwich Town. He might have done the same against teams in League 2 but I’m not sure. And who’s place would he have taken? Finley or Evans? I hope these are the first steps for his returning to a level his talent should have him playing at, if everyone is to be believed. But we all know success comes with talent alongside hard work and discipline. He now needs to show he has the last two attributes. 👍 UTG! Not sure anybody is suggesting he's presently league standard, but credit where credits due that's a decent goal at any level, similar to Collins v Oxford, Barrett's now scored 4 goals in 3 games!
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Dec 19, 2021 17:45:35 GMT
So which league goalie is ever going to save that shot? Non league players can score good goals too, does that make all those non league players league standard? No of course it doesn't. Topper do yourself a favour and engage your brain before typing.
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Post by gasandelectricity on Dec 23, 2021 10:57:21 GMT
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Post by rememberhalifax on Dec 23, 2021 17:11:34 GMT
Wish them both well, perhaps being at a level which does not attract so much attention suits them both.
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Post by Kingswood Polak on Dec 26, 2021 15:01:30 GMT
I get you didn’t rate Tisdale, that’s your opinion. I didn’t want Tisdale as manager either, but IMO with Garner or Tisdale in charge we may still have gone down, but wouldn’t have been cut adrift at the bottom of the table. Barton came in with excuses, blaming everyone & everything from day one, and shamefully gave up on the job in the last 10 games. I would say his distractions far outweigh any distractions Tisdale had. Without the circus that Barton brings with him, he should be gone on results alone, but unfortunately I can’t see that happening. It was only a matter of time before we would have been cut adrift. We got battered 6-1 at Accrington. It wasnt that I didnt like Tisdale, he was just the wrong man for the job and that should have been obvious to everyone at interview. Not many players had much time for him come the end. I dont really remember Barton blaming everyone, he just told us how it was, which was that the players we had werent L1 standard (proven to be mostly correct bar 3 or 4), we had an attitude problem (mostly correct, none of the players look like they cared) and that all transfer windows had been mismanaged completely (absolutely correct). What Barton had to do was prove he didnt do any of the above himself. I think we all can agree that the team shows more fight and determination than what we have seen under either of the 2 managers, the fitness looks a whole lot sharper and we can last for 100 mins a game. The only thing he hasnt gotten quite right is the recruitment. We are short in a few areas and we have been dreadfully unlucky with injuries and with covid. We only got 2 weeks of pre-season in and most of that was with a limited squad. Pitman and Coutts for example didnt get one. IIRC then Tisdale said we had nothing up front and that was enough. Barton has called the club cancerous and is still using every excuse to distract from himself and has basically crapped on the whole club and even the fans. I don’t understand how he has been allowed to get away with it but then I don’t expect it, plus when talking of transparency, how are his friends on the bench and around him but not on the payroll , maybe you can answer this ?
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Post by Kingswood Polak on Dec 26, 2021 15:13:20 GMT
That was all DC. In fairness to TW he told him not to. If that’s true, it shows how DC unfortunately lost it a bit at the end with us. He got us to where he got us by signing hard working players with a good attitude. I guess the further we went, the harder it became to make uncomplicated signings but if he’d stuck with his guns and maybe been dealt a slightly better hand (remembering that Payne was basically a panic buy because we found ourselves with no number 9 and having lost three quality strikers in quick succession) then he might still be here now and we might still be in division one. I think what it also showed was the he no longer had the input on signings, that he had before. Too many chiefs and all that malarkey.
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Post by Kingswood Polak on Dec 26, 2021 15:15:14 GMT
All managers make mistakes in the transfer market. Some might say DC had done enough with back to back promotions, highest average attendances in decades and a net profit in transfer fees to be given the chance to turn things around, obviously Wael thought differently. Ah, the heady days when Wael sacked managers if he thought they couldn't get us into the Championship. Standards are rather lower now. The ghost a Buckle in that, the fans must lower their expectations, I don’t think many havbe high expectations now so, I guess, he got his way.
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Post by Kingswood Polak on Dec 26, 2021 15:24:11 GMT
All managers make mistakes in the transfer market. Some might say DC had done enough with back to back promotions, highest average attendances in decades and a net profit in transfer fees to be given the chance to turn things around, obviously Wael thought differently. There was no way DC could remain as manager after his post Doncaster thrashing presser, as far as TW advising DC not to sign Payne, it's a bit odd that's never been suggested previously, although the Coventry player who turned us down for a move to Walsall did little better. It does seem TW's scouting network was probably non-existent. He did well to get us JCH and an extra season in league 1 as a result of that. I was hoping Wael would tell him to takeover as manager, until the seasons end as it did seem he could get a tune out of them and i think he genuinely believed they could do a job. I don’t think i have ever commented on him before apart from hoping he would be made to be first team coach until end of season. Now ? Like it or not, we have to put up with what is happening and hope that the very muddied waters become clear as i have never felt as disenfranchised from the club as i am now. Tbh I didn’t even follow our last game as i was with friends, who had come over from abroad and just didn’t feel the need. I’m very much hoping a lot becomes much clearer, in the new year but also will not be surprised if not. No one supports Rovers for glory but we did have a solid tier 3 side that occasionally got promoted to tier two and i am very glad that i was able to see the Megson side and be old enough to appreciate it.
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Post by gashead1981 on Dec 26, 2021 15:29:55 GMT
If that’s true, it shows how DC unfortunately lost it a bit at the end with us. He got us to where he got us by signing hard working players with a good attitude. I guess the further we went, the harder it became to make uncomplicated signings but if he’d stuck with his guns and maybe been dealt a slightly better hand (remembering that Payne was basically a panic buy because we found ourselves with no number 9 and having lost three quality strikers in quick succession) then he might still be here now and we might still be in division one. I think what it also showed was the he no longer had the input on signings, that he had before. Too many chiefs and all that malarkey. He had all the input on signings. He also had the input on all the departures. The club were stupid not to turn down 3/4m for Ellis Harrison and the summer we signed Stefan Payne in desperation we could have signed JCH and Connor Chaplain a whole lot earlier in the window but DC didn’t move quick enough. DC brought TW in to help him after both Tom Nichols and Luke James were total flops in front of goal and he needed help with scouting. DC got us into a relegation fight on the biggest wage budget this club ever had at £2.7m!! I think you need to take off your Swissgas coloured specs and remember history as it was Jools.
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Post by Kingswood Polak on Dec 26, 2021 15:36:22 GMT
I think what it also showed was the he no longer had the input on signings, that he had before. Too many chiefs and all that malarkey. He had all the input on signings. He also had the input on all the departures. The club were stupid not to turn down 3/4m for Ellis Harrison and the summer we signed Stefan Payne in desperation we could have signed JCH and Connor Chaplain a whole lot earlier in the window but DC didn’t move quick enough. DC brought TW in to help him after both Tom Nichols and Luke James were total flops in front of goal and he needed help with scouting. DC got us into a relegation fight on the biggest wage budget this club ever had at £2.7m!! I think you need to take off your Swissgas coloured specs and remember history as it was Jools. But you said Hamer got the bought the walking gel advert in and that DC said he wasn’t worth it so now I’m confused. Which is it ? As for Swiss ? I have learned a lot from him and not just football. I enjoy my interactions with him. I could understand us implementing much of the things we have done if we had concentrated on the team first. Look at attendances when we got promoted, both times and it really excited me, as a Kingswood resident, to see the old faces coming back, i cannot tell you how much. We truly just let all of that forward momentum slip away and now we have those calling a 6K attendance good, i would have thought that many could not have resisted the chance to go to games. Ah well, I don’t know why i even allow this to get to me at times but i truly thought we had a definite and good chance of reaching the championship, after the Dagenham game. That day will stay with me forever and for many reasons. The best day i have had at the mem and by a very long way. That had me dreaming again , i should really have known better.
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