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Post by mftc on Jul 29, 2022 19:46:00 GMT
If a player is injured doesn't a club HAVE to pay him until he gets fit?
Remember Virgo and the keeper from that era, plus highly rated prospect Thomas under DC?
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Post by Topper Gas on Jul 29, 2022 19:48:50 GMT
Last season on a very healthy contract, didn’t make an appearance & subsequently a drain on the budget. 3/3 on the Bennett factor Kyle Bennett signed a 3.5 year deal on over £4,000 per week (you do the maths on the overall expenditure), showed up for ten games then sat back on his monsterous wage and did sod all for three years. Rodman’s likely on a fraction of that, hasn’t played due to injury rather than ability, and has always performed well when called upon. When did he last declare himself fit enough to start a game a run of a games?
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Post by lastminutewinner on Jul 29, 2022 19:51:09 GMT
He could always rip up his contract and see who is willing to offer a better one if its that bad....
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Post by eric on Jul 29, 2022 20:04:24 GMT
Rodman needs to pull his socks up work his socks off and try and get fit and get some game time at Bath Socks City with his fitness team mate Chris Socks Lines. Put a sock in it
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Post by horfield on Jul 29, 2022 20:31:04 GMT
So what I read is that Starnes gives Rodman a new crap contract for one more year before Starnes was sacked, which Rodders agrees and signs up for, nothing wrong with that, both sides obviously happy. But today, the manager Barton in an interview with the BP suggests he knew nothing about it and goes on to say in his interview he is right hacked off and doesn't want the boy, won't play him and whoever gave Starnes the green light to sign him can lump his wages, don't dare add it to my budget because he will ignore Rodman and in no way is he in his plans. Not the kind of tale you want to hear on the eve of a new possible exciting season. The manager should be looking forward not backwards, digging out a administrator that the whole of football knew as a failed failure and surely, the manager should be conversing with the CEO in any player contract negotiation and be aware that Rodman was part of his 2022/23 squad. Not shock horror as today by Barton, I never knew about this, you feel more internal unrest is on its way !
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Post by horfield on Jul 29, 2022 20:32:08 GMT
So what I read is that Starnes gives Rodman a new crap contract for one more year before Starnes was sacked, which Rodders agrees and signs up for, nothing wrong with that, both sides obviously happy. But today, the manager Barton in an interview with the BP suggests he knew nothing about it and goes on to say in his interview he is right hacked off and doesn't want the boy, won't play him and whoever gave Starnes the green light to sign him can lump his wages, don't dare add it to my budget because he will ignore Rodman and in no way is he in his plans. Not the kind of tale you want to hear on the eve of a new possible exciting season. The manager should be looking forward not backwards, digging out a administrator that the whole of football knew as a failed failure and surely, the manager should be conversing with the CEO in any player contract negotiation and be aware that Rodman was part of his 2022/23 squad. Not shock horror as today by Barton, I never knew about this, you feel more internal unrest is on its way !
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Post by Tilly's Thighs on Jul 29, 2022 20:34:33 GMT
So what I read is that Starnes gives Rodman a new crap contract for one more year before Starnes was sacked, which Rodders agrees and signs up for, nothing wrong with that, both sides obviously happy. But today, the manager Barton in an interview with the BP suggests he knew nothing about it and goes on to say in his interview he is right hacked off and doesn't want the boy, won't play him and whoever gave Starnes the green light to sign him can lump his wages, don't dare add it to my budget because he will ignore Rodman and in no way is he in his plans. Not the kind of tale you want to hear on the eve of a new possible exciting season. The manager should be looking forward not backwards, digging out a administrator that the whole of football knew as a failed failure and surely, the manager should be conversing with the CEO in any player contract negotiation and be aware that Rodman was part of his 2022/23 squad. Not shock horror as today by Barton, I never knew about this, you feel more internal unrest is on its way ! You've totally put your own spin on that, to suit your agenda.
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Post by Tilly's Thighs on Jul 29, 2022 20:38:07 GMT
Kyle Bennett signed a 3.5 year deal on over £4,000 per week (you do the maths on the overall expenditure), showed up for ten games then sat back on his monsterous wage and did sod all for three years. Rodman’s likely on a fraction of that, hasn’t played due to injury rather than ability, and has always performed well when called upon. A drain on funds can appear in many forms. He sat on a lovely contract last season without getting a game, secured himself a lower deal for another season this term where he’s even more crocked. Those pennies could be utilised much better elsewhere, someone fit for a match day squad for a start. I wish we were a club wealthy enough to Chuck money away on sick note players because they ‘used to do a bit’, some Gasheads seem happy with that. But it ain’t for me. Thankfully, it ain’t for Joey Barton either. How do you know that he had "a lovely contract" last season?
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Post by Topper Gas on Jul 29, 2022 20:49:13 GMT
So what I read is that Starnes gives Rodman a new crap contract for one more year before Starnes was sacked, which Rodders agrees and signs up for, nothing wrong with that, both sides obviously happy. But today, the manager Barton in an interview with the BP suggests he knew nothing about it and goes on to say in his interview he is right hacked off and doesn't want the boy, won't play him and whoever gave Starnes the green light to sign him can lump his wages, don't dare add it to my budget because he will ignore Rodman and in no way is he in his plans. Not the kind of tale you want to hear on the eve of a new possible exciting season. The manager should be looking forward not backwards, digging out a administrator that the whole of football knew as a failed failure and surely, the manager should be conversing with the CEO in any player contract negotiation and be aware that Rodman was part of his 2022/23 squad. Not shock horror as today by Barton, I never knew about this, you feel more internal unrest is on its way ! Surely any potential internal unrest has already been dealt with by Starnes departure? You've highlighted why the club was in such disarray, with the CEO offering players contracts without even discussing them with his manager. Thankfully clowns like Hamer, Starnes and Wriddington are all now long gone.
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Post by socrates on Jul 29, 2022 20:59:21 GMT
35 years old and hardly played for the last two years , it’s not looking good for him or us for that matter. Unfortunately we signed him at the end of his best years and we haven’t really had much out of him. Nice bloke but poor signing.
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Post by Topper Gas on Jul 29, 2022 21:26:23 GMT
A drain on funds can appear in many forms. He sat on a lovely contract last season without getting a game, secured himself a lower deal for another season this term where he’s even more crocked. Those pennies could be utilised much better elsewhere, someone fit for a match day squad for a start. I wish we were a club wealthy enough to Chuck money away on sick note players because they ‘used to do a bit’, some Gasheads seem happy with that. But it ain’t for me. Thankfully, it ain’t for Joey Barton either. How do you know that he had "a lovely contract" last season? He had a league 2 contract of some kind from a club who are known to offer decent contracts. If he's been that poorly paid he could always retire and try his luck in a proper job.
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Post by clampdown on Jul 29, 2022 21:53:44 GMT
One good game followed by four poor games followed by 3 months out injured. Rinse and repeat. Nice guy or not, hugely disappointing signing.
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Post by dudelebowski on Jul 29, 2022 22:00:08 GMT
A drain on funds can appear in many forms. He sat on a lovely contract last season without getting a game, secured himself a lower deal for another season this term where he’s even more crocked. Those pennies could be utilised much better elsewhere, someone fit for a match day squad for a start. I wish we were a club wealthy enough to Chuck money away on sick note players because they ‘used to do a bit’, some Gasheads seem happy with that. But it ain’t for me. Thankfully, it ain’t for Joey Barton either. How do you know that he had "a lovely contract" last season? JB touched on it in the presser. Lovely sweet contract last season, moved to a lesser crap one this season on a promise from Starnes.
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Post by Tilly's Thighs on Jul 29, 2022 22:08:44 GMT
How do you know that he had "a lovely contract" last season? JB touched on it in the presser. Lovely sweet contract last season, moved to a lesser crap one this season on a promise from Starnes. I believe he said that it was a "decent contract" - reduced if target appearances haven't been hit.
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Post by Tilly's Thighs on Jul 29, 2022 22:11:12 GMT
How do you know that he had "a lovely contract" last season? He had a league 2 contract of some kind from a club who are known to offer decent contracts. If he's been that poorly paid he could always retire and try his luck in a proper job. Not aware that we've seen any quotes from Rodman complaining about his pay. Just JB going public about Rodman's contract.
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Post by dudelebowski on Jul 29, 2022 22:11:52 GMT
One good game followed by four poor games followed by 3 months out injured. Rinse and repeat. Nice guy or not, hugely disappointing signing. In 4 years all I can recall is a late brace in a dead rubber nothing game to beat promoted Barnsley, an assist for Tommy Nics at Portman Road, a belter in one home game during covid relegation season that we had to endure on Ifollow. I’m struggling otherwise. Lad was a decent component in GC’s hoofball side, seems a top fella but has done nothing other than occupy the treatment table since. Time to call it a day with us.
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Post by yattongas on Jul 29, 2022 22:12:17 GMT
So what I read is that Starnes gives Rodman a new crap contract for one more year before Starnes was sacked, which Rodders agrees and signs up for, nothing wrong with that, both sides obviously happy. But today, the manager Barton in an interview with the BP suggests he knew nothing about it and goes on to say in his interview he is right hacked off and doesn't want the boy, won't play him and whoever gave Starnes the green light to sign him can lump his wages, don't dare add it to my budget because he will ignore Rodman and in no way is he in his plans. Not the kind of tale you want to hear on the eve of a new possible exciting season. The manager should be looking forward not backwards, digging out a administrator that the whole of football knew as a failed failure and surely, the manager should be conversing with the CEO in any player contract negotiation and be aware that Rodman was part of his 2022/23 squad. Not shock horror as today by Barton, I never knew about this, you feel more internal unrest is on its way ! You what ?
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Post by Tilly's Thighs on Jul 29, 2022 22:16:11 GMT
If we get a new goalkeeping coach, I guess that Annsi will be next on the chopping block, also triggered a contract arranged with Starnes - 24 appearances in the last two seasons.
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Post by wertongas on Jul 29, 2022 22:24:37 GMT
How do you know that he had "a lovely contract" last season? He had a league 2 contract of some kind from a club who are known to offer decent contracts. If he's been that poorly paid he could always retire and try his luck in a proper job. Are you trying to say that being in the football profession is not a proper job, tell that to football players, coaches and managers ,I am sure at least some would be very offended.
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Post by gashead1981 on Jul 30, 2022 10:40:14 GMT
So what I read is that Starnes gives Rodman a new crap contract for one more year before Starnes was sacked, which Rodders agrees and signs up for, nothing wrong with that, both sides obviously happy. But today, the manager Barton in an interview with the BP suggests he knew nothing about it and goes on to say in his interview he is right hacked off and doesn't want the boy, won't play him and whoever gave Starnes the green light to sign him can lump his wages, don't dare add it to my budget because he will ignore Rodman and in no way is he in his plans. Not the kind of tale you want to hear on the eve of a new possible exciting season. The manager should be looking forward not backwards, digging out a administrator that the whole of football knew as a failed failure and surely, the manager should be conversing with the CEO in any player contract negotiation and be aware that Rodman was part of his 2022/23 squad. Not shock horror as today by Barton, I never knew about this, you feel more internal unrest is on its way ! JB also said he defaulted into a contract. That would suggest to me his last contract was a 1 + 1 contract which was based on appearances or other certain criteria that when met automatically triggered an extension on some basic terms. Perhaps it was an appearance based extension that if he was injured and couldn’t meet the appearances he got a very basic contract to get fit and work his way back into the squad. I think JB is quite correct, if Rodman isn’t his plans then we will be told. There’s nothing that he’s told us that he probably hasn’t told Rodders to his face and that is looking forwards. I think we all agree that Rodman is now a level or 2 below L1.
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