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Post by Jomo on Aug 5, 2022 5:21:47 GMT
Let's be honest, for all the good that JB has done at the Gas, of which there has been a LOT in 2022 so far, he does still have this cringey side which doesn't sit well with a lot of people. He is an unpredictable guy, who pulls off masterstrokes of genius one minute, and nonsensical clangers the next. Do I hate him? No chance. Do I love him unconditionally because of promotion. No.
This is another bizarre episode in the history of JB the manager, and I cannot fathom it. It's classless again to call players out in the press, I wouldn't do it and I wish he wouldn't, but it's his way. At least this time, I have more trust that he will come good on it ultimately after what happened last season. Keeping the faith at this point, despite the questionable situation.
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Post by oldie on Aug 5, 2022 5:54:17 GMT
Let's call it for what it is. Incompetent management Judge him on results over time. He didn’t have a transfer window when we were relegated then he had two transfer windows completely changed about 99% of the squad and we were promoted. In a very short space of time he turned the club around when it was in a right mess. I find it hard to comprehend how a Gashead could call him an incompetent manager after that. It is incompetent to spend someone else's money on a two year contract in June 2022 for a player who, at the announcement of the signing is praised to high heaven, then sack him in August after one game. But leave the shareholders to foot the contract cost...with absolutely zero benefit. If that is not a prime example of incompetence, what is?
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Post by badengas on Aug 5, 2022 6:24:18 GMT
In summary, football fans disagree with Manager.
Club gets promoted, Manager is amazing all is forgotten.
Club gets relegated, fans say "I told you so".
I'm never going to like Barton the man, Barton the Manager had a cracking year last time out so come on you Gas. We do need more quality and quantity but time will tell.
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Post by madridgas on Aug 5, 2022 6:25:39 GMT
I don't think anyone has really discussed the two youngsters. Heal was offered a six month contract extension in May, so this is probably the end of his Rovers career.
Egan, along with Greenslade signed his first contract in May, so is probably contracted until next May. From memory, he did well out on loan at Hereford last year and we might not be surprised if that is where he moves to. Guessing that our promotion putting us three levels above Hereford means that JB is revaluating if players will become good enough for League 1. Wish them both well in their football careers
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Post by stapletongas on Aug 5, 2022 6:37:12 GMT
It strikes me that while you often hear it said that there's no loyalty in football any more, that's not strictly true. A lot of fans stay true to favourite players and you can see this throughout the above thread.
I've gone way passed getting attached to players, certainly never have a players name printed on a shirt. They come, they go, all I want to see is them being a good team collectively and doing the club proud while here.
Whatever is going on behind the scenes, if the outcome achieves the above, then I'm happy.
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Post by blueridge on Aug 5, 2022 6:37:14 GMT
Judge him on results over time. He didn’t have a transfer window when we were relegated then he had two transfer windows completely changed about 99% of the squad and we were promoted. In a very short space of time he turned the club around when it was in a right mess. I find it hard to comprehend how a Gashead could call him an incompetent manager after that. It is incompetent to spend someone else's money on a two year contract in June 2022 for a player who, at the announcement of the signing is praised to high heaven, then sack him in August after one game. But leave the shareholders to foot the contract cost...with absolutely zero benefit. If that is not a prime example of incompetence, what is? How do you know it’s incompetence - unless of course you know the facts and you can enlighten us all. I’m sure the primary shareholder knows the facts and is in agreement.
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Post by bidefordgas on Aug 5, 2022 6:40:10 GMT
Josh Grant can think himself lucky to still be here although he does appear to be Joey's pet. Another who never seems to be available Grant was and is Wael's boy (for obvious reason) and whoever is in charge has to acknowledge and accept this. Even if they can't quite bring themselves to select him, when fit. [ Please explain your comment about " Grant was and is Wael's boy (for obvious reason)?
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Post by dudelebowski on Aug 5, 2022 6:48:20 GMT
This is classic, you’d have thought he’d sent Evans or Collins on their way😄😄
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Post by worrelsterlingalbion on Aug 5, 2022 6:50:42 GMT
Lots of theories being thrown about regarding Clarke, it's odd timing but JB has held his hands up and admitted he made a mistake in offering him a new deal. In fairness he had openly admitted he wanted another left back anyway so its not as if he'd declared Clarke was first choice. Obviously it leaves us short for tomorrow but ssuming nobody comes in today I can see us going to a back 3 especially given that Barton has already said how direct Burton are. Possibly Hoole Kilgour & Connelly as the 3 with Gibbons & Anderson as the wing backs.
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Post by kampucheagas on Aug 5, 2022 6:52:35 GMT
This is classic, you’d have thought he’d sent Evans or Collins on their way😄😄 It’s not the player, it’s the manner it’s been handled New 2 year contract, praised as a player, plays one game, manager slates his performance then tells him to find a new club. Very odd. UTG
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Post by dudelebowski on Aug 5, 2022 6:55:53 GMT
This is classic, you’d have thought he’d sent Evans or Collins on their way😄😄 It’s not the player, it’s the manner it’s been handled New 2 year contract, praised as a player, plays one game, manager slates his performance then tells him to find a new club. Very odd. UTG As probably already mentioned, that’s just the surface to those who aren’t privy to changing room/training ground actions, words and goings on. It looks bizarre, but perhaps it isn’t? We’ll never know. What I do know, it certainly wouldn’t have happened if everything was rosey. 3 points tomorrow and the season is up & running😁all that matters
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Post by chippinggas on Aug 5, 2022 6:57:27 GMT
Right decision regarding Westbrooke and Rodman. The Clarke situation does seem odd. I'm speculating but I wonder if the rumours that Charlton are in for Clarke has caused a bit of tension between the two? Either way, we were and most certain are now short at the back which is a worry
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Post by kampucheagas on Aug 5, 2022 7:02:59 GMT
Right decision regarding Westbrooke and Rodman. The Clarke situation does seem odd. I'm speculating but I wonder if the rumours that Charlton are in for Clarke has caused a bit of tension between the two? Either way, we were and most certain are now short at the back which is a worry I’m not very knowledgeable on this, but I presume we still have to pay him for 2 years if no one signs him??
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Post by dudelebowski on Aug 5, 2022 7:04:23 GMT
Belly
Hoole Connelly Gibbo
Anderson Finley Evans Rossiter Saunders
Collins Big John
Sorted😎
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Post by legas on Aug 5, 2022 7:06:28 GMT
Belly Hoole Connelly Gibbo Anderson Finley Evans Rossiter Saunders Collins Big John Sorted😎 No Rossiter for tomorrow though.
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Post by kampucheagas on Aug 5, 2022 7:06:56 GMT
If Kilgour can’t get a start now, surely that marks the end of his gas days??
UTG
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Post by percy on Aug 5, 2022 7:07:46 GMT
Rossiter is injured. Of course. Could be too early for Finley too! Expect Lawerence and Jones to start.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2022 7:14:50 GMT
Don't forget Whelan could start. If we throw Saunders on from the start then we lose any kind of impact sub we might need to make later on.
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Post by gasandelectricity on Aug 5, 2022 7:19:00 GMT
Remember when we were screwed for defenders and Connolly came out of nowhere?
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Aug 5, 2022 7:32:52 GMT
Nothing to see here. 2 sick notes and a consistent under performer. JAB has reasonably clarified, credit for admitting made mistake and anything else should be kept in house. I see it as difficult decisions taken, probably for the best of the club, but only time will tell. Instinctively, I wholeheartedly agree with his options and the timing of them - he's given each and every one more than one chance. Sorry for picking this one post, could have been anyone of many. He hasn’t done anything brave. Just limited our options. We don’t stop paying them cos Joey has decided enough is enough. Still no one has answered who’s gonna play LB Saturday? Jones? Didn't say he done anything brave....just credit for admitting mistakes and move on asap. I have an inkling replacements are pending, but anything unharmonious with the 3 amigos should be kept in house.
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