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Post by oldie on Aug 4, 2022 21:42:24 GMT
Clarke is the one I feel sorry for, it looks like he worked hard to keep his fitness over the summer. Imagine thinking that you had the security of a contract for a couple of years, and next minute you're surplus to requirements. But he has an enforceable contract. The club will have to pay him even if Barton doesn't want him around Imagine watering away shareholder funds on 2 years of salary on a player you told the directors to award a new contract to just 8 weeks ago. Imagine.
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Post by Tilly's Thighs on Aug 4, 2022 21:51:21 GMT
Clarke is the one I feel sorry for, it looks like he worked hard to keep his fitness over the summer. Imagine thinking that you had the security of a contract for a couple of years, and next minute you're surplus to requirements. But he has an enforceable contract. The club will have to pay him even if Barton doesn't want him around Imagine watering away shareholder funds on 2 years of salary on a player you told the directors to award a new contract to just 8 weeks ago. Imagine. The thing is, he won’t stick around for two years. He’ll either get another club or take a pay off, which won’t be huge. From his social media it looked like he might be training on his own - running in Eastville Park and then at the gym.
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Post by oldie on Aug 4, 2022 21:56:23 GMT
But he has an enforceable contract. The club will have to pay him even if Barton doesn't want him around Imagine watering away shareholder funds on 2 years of salary on a player you told the directors to award a new contract to just 8 weeks ago. Imagine. The thing is, he won’t stick around for two years. He’ll either get another club or take a pay off, which won’t be huge. From his social media it looked like he might be training on his own - running in Eastville Park and then at the gym. Constructive dismissal anyone?
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Post by yattongas on Aug 4, 2022 21:59:51 GMT
The thing is, he won’t stick around for two years. He’ll either get another club or take a pay off, which won’t be huge. From his social media it looked like he might be training on his own - running in Eastville Park and then at the gym. Constructive dismissal anyone? He’s not been dismissed . Just asked to find another club as his services are no longer required. He’ll be paid in the meantime.
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Post by strads1983 on Aug 4, 2022 22:03:18 GMT
Somebody mentioned clarke and charlton beginning of the week. Wonder if there has been movement on there and barton is trying to force a fee for him. Weird isn't it. If it does materialise will look even more strange given he'd be good enough for Charlton but seemingly not good enough for us! If charlton want a full back that is constantly caught out of position, and therefore has to make lots of last ditch slide tackles. This isn’t signs of a good defender, and even after a slide tackle always gingerly returns to his feet. It is bizarre, but sure the reasons are massively valid. Joey knows what it take to be a top professional player and Clarke clearly is falling way short.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2022 22:07:30 GMT
The thing is, he won’t stick around for two years. He’ll either get another club or take a pay off, which won’t be huge. From his social media it looked like he might be training on his own - running in Eastville Park and then at the gym. Constructive dismissal anyone? Every club in the country could end up in an employment tribunal in that case. It goes on up and down the land where clubs want a player out and basically banish them in order to hasten their exit. TBH I’m amazed we gave him a 2 year deal, maybe a one year would have been in order. But it’s certainly a quick about turn and something had prompted it. I guess we could bring in Alfie and put Luca on the right and Gibbo out on the left? Saturday should be interesting. I’m carrying around 4 stone more than when I played but my boots are still ok and I’ve still got my touch. I’m ready if I get the call.
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Post by Topper Gas on Aug 4, 2022 22:09:16 GMT
Weird isn't it. If it does materialise will look even more strange given he'd be good enough for Charlton but seemingly not good enough for us! If charlton want a full back that is constantly caught out of position, and therefore has to make lots of last ditch slide tackles. This isn’t signs of a good defender, and even after a slide tackle always gingerly returns to his feet. It is bizarre, but sure the reasons are massively valid. Joey knows what it take to be a top professional player and Clarke clearly is falling way short. If that's the case then why did he offer him a new 2 year contract, with I recall a further 1 year extension in the summer, it's not like JB couldn't see his weaknesses last season.
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Post by strads1983 on Aug 4, 2022 22:17:21 GMT
If charlton want a full back that is constantly caught out of position, and therefore has to make lots of last ditch slide tackles. This isn’t signs of a good defender, and even after a slide tackle always gingerly returns to his feet. It is bizarre, but sure the reasons are massively valid. Joey knows what it take to be a top professional player and Clarke clearly is falling way short. If that's the case then why did he offer him a new 2 year contract, with I recall a further 1 year extension in the summer, it's not like JB couldn't see his weaknesses last season. This is the head scratching bit. Don’t fear though with the rhino at left back and Harvey Saunders flying down the right wing.
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Aug 4, 2022 22:49:53 GMT
Nothing to see here.
2 sick notes and a consistent under performer. JAB has reasonably clarified, credit for admitting made mistake and anything else should be kept in house.
I see it as difficult decisions taken, probably for the best of the club, but only time will tell.
Instinctively, I wholeheartedly agree with his options and the timing of them - he's given each and every one more than one chance.
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Post by lastminutewinner on Aug 4, 2022 22:56:08 GMT
Josh Grant can think himself lucky to still be here although he does appear to be Joey's pet. Another who never seems to be available
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Post by percy on Aug 4, 2022 23:00:11 GMT
Nothing to see here. 2 sick notes and a consistent under performer. JAB has reasonably clarified, credit for admitting made mistake and anything else should be kept in house. I see it as difficult decisions taken, probably for the best of the club, but only time will tell. Instinctively, I wholeheartedly agree with his options and the timing of them - he's given each and every one more than one chance. Sorry for picking this one post, could have been anyone of many. He hasn’t done anything brave. Just limited our options. We don’t stop paying them cos Joey has decided enough is enough. Still no one has answered who’s gonna play LB Saturday?
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Post by gasmania on Aug 4, 2022 23:13:58 GMT
Nothing to see here. 2 sick notes and a consistent under performer. JAB has reasonably clarified, credit for admitting made mistake and anything else should be kept in house. I see it as difficult decisions taken, probably for the best of the club, but only time will tell. Instinctively, I wholeheartedly agree with his options and the timing of them - he's given each and every one more than one chance. Sorry for picking this one post, could have been anyone of many. He hasn’t done anything brave. Just limited our options. We don’t stop paying them cos Joey has decided enough is enough. Still no one has answered who’s gonna play LB Saturday? Wonder if we will go Gibbons LB, Kilgour and Connolly CB and Hoole RB?
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Post by CrispPusher on Aug 4, 2022 23:52:23 GMT
Josh Grant can think himself lucky to still be here although he does appear to be Joey's pet. Another who never seems to be available Grant was and is Wael's boy (for obvious reason) and whoever is in charge has to acknowledge and accept this. Even if they can't quite bring themselves to select him, when fit.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2022 0:03:13 GMT
Unfortunately it’s a cliche, but that’s football.
As I’ve always said to my boys, it is only ever one persons opinion ultimately.
You find the best level you can play in, there will always be someone else with a different perspective.
Especially when it comes to football.
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Post by jungleboogie on Aug 5, 2022 0:06:20 GMT
Not even going to waste my time reading the thread as I’m on holiday, but will only add that Barton is a ****, he’s always been a ****, and will continue to be a ****, and plenty of you sad twats will lap it up each and every week. UTG
Edit: this is just about Clarke, the other row have been fecking useless for years!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2022 0:13:02 GMT
Could be he has to clear the decks for incoming players. Who knows.
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Post by socrates on Aug 5, 2022 0:18:04 GMT
Thought Clarke was decent Saturday. Very odd. Pretty convinced something has happened behind the scenes there. Pretty much agree with the decision about the other two. Yeah I thought he looked very determined to fight for the ball out of possession , look for the ball when we had it , did quite well , not great but certainly seemed up for it and like he was looking to make the left back position his own with Nick Anderton out. Westbrooke I’m glad about I just want him away from our club.
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Post by socrates on Aug 5, 2022 0:27:47 GMT
Let's call it for what it is. Incompetent management Judge him on results over time. He didn’t have a transfer window when we were relegated then he had two transfer windows completely changed about 99% of the squad and we were promoted. In a very short space of time he turned the club around when it was in a right mess. I find it hard to comprehend how a Gashead could call him an incompetent manager after that.
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Post by socrates on Aug 5, 2022 0:35:01 GMT
Barton does things differently from other managers and that gets fans saying WTF on a regular basis. It also massively divides opinion. If there’s one thing I’ve learned in the last 18 months it’s that. Thing is he got it very very right last season after seemingly getting it very wrong at first. Loads on here questioning him tonight , some saying he’s incompetent but how many of those have a professional football promotion under their belt. I’m willing to give him the benefit of the doubt he’s done pretty well in his time as a football manager so far , he’s still young , he’s still learning but we could be / have been in much worse hands.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2022 4:56:04 GMT
Still no one has answered who’s gonna play LB Saturday? Either Gibbons or Anderson I think.
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