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Post by eric on Aug 20, 2022 19:39:04 GMT
Watch the replay of the penalty incident. You can clearly see the Rovers player's left leg deliberately kick into Rafferty's, Robert Pires style. That's why the ref didn't give it. As regards the alleged push there's nothing in it. Certainly not enough to make him fall over. He's about to shoot and the contact prevents him from doing it. I guess you'll see it how want though. Also, watch your defender - what sort of challenge is that? Agreed. From the angle he’s running to get a shot towards the far bottom corner he has to take his leg outside - if he just takes his leg straight back and shoots he’d have just kicked it straight out of play 10 yards wide of goal. Clear penalty. It’s not even as though there was any attempt at proper defending that may have given the defender some benefit of the doubt from the referee. Perhaps the ref was scared of making the decision because he’d have to follow up with a red card and didn’t have the bottle in front of a big home crowd.
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Post by gasandelectricity on Aug 20, 2022 19:52:23 GMT
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Post by rovers5charlton5 on Aug 20, 2022 20:33:28 GMT
Is that a problem, surely the corner count means nothing at the end of the game? Worded poorly from me. I meant we almost conceded from a corner twice in quick succession. Ah that makes sense, we do concede a lot of goals from corners away from home.
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Post by frattonender on Aug 20, 2022 20:36:07 GMT
A great turnout from the Gas faithful today - particularly against the backdrop of the rail strikes.
On the overall balance of play and chances I thought we were good value for the win but I'd have been spitting feathers if the penalty decisions had been the other way around, so understand the frustration with the outcome from your side on that basis.
Good luck for the rest of the season (the reverse fixture at the Mem excepted, obviously).
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Post by RD on Aug 20, 2022 20:40:07 GMT
A great turnout from the Gas faithful today - particularly against the backdrop of the rail strikes. On the overall balance of play and chances I thought we were good value for the win but I'd have been spitting feathers if the penalty decisions had been the other way around, so understand the frustration with the outcome from your side on that basis. Good luck for the rest of the season (the reverse fixture at the Mem excepted, obviously). Fair summary IMO. Better team won, just a shame it was in the manner it was. Best of luck for the rest of the season (apart from the next time we meet of course!)
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Post by GasAttacK on Aug 20, 2022 21:33:57 GMT
A great turnout from the Gas faithful today - particularly against the backdrop of the rail strikes. On the overall balance of play and chances I thought we were good value for the win but I'd have been spitting feathers if the penalty decisions had been the other way around, so understand the frustration with the outcome from your side on that basis. Good luck for the rest of the season (the reverse fixture at the Mem excepted, obviously). On the balance of play Pompey deserved the win but had it not been for at least one poor decision from the referee it would have probably ended in a draw.
There was some good last ditch defending but I can't actually remember Belshaw having to make many great saves, so the game plan was working to some extent.
Pompey look a strong well organised team that have made a good start to the season and will be challenging for a top 6 finish come May.
Hopefully we get some revenge at the Mem but wish you all the best for the season.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2022 21:51:31 GMT
The ref was at fault for a lot of things today, but giving the free kick Pompeys way when it was clearly ours less than 60 seconds before they had the pen was crazy.
Third goal looked offside, just watching the highlights. Great atmosphere though again, great afternoon even if we didn’t get the result.
Early days, and window hasn’t shut yet. Plus the loan window that we appear to have some success with under JB.
UTG
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Post by Kingswood Polak on Aug 20, 2022 22:18:33 GMT
In the Pompey Bar after the game. Their fans were all saying our penalty claim was a stone-waller. Watch the replay of the penalty incident. You can clearly see the Rovers player's left leg deliberately kick into Rafferty's, Robert Pires style. That's why the ref didn't give it. As regards the alleged push there's nothing in it. Certainly not enough to make him fall over. That certainly outs pay to the stonewaller opinion, for sure.
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Post by Kingswood Polak on Aug 20, 2022 22:26:44 GMT
We weren’t at it today, nowhere near what we’re capable of but that referee performance today and the levels of inconsistency was bordering on criminal. Regardless of their (debatable) pen award and then one not given to Collins, I’m certain their lad jumped in on Whelan, broke his own ankle & then GW gets booked for it🤦🏻 I’m normally calm and collected at football 100% but that ran me close today. Collins pen not even close, stonewall beyond stonewall. Dude, I couldn’t see the Whelan incident but I walked out feeling like you. Wasn’t made any better from sitting in their North Stand, front row and listening to their lot all afternoon and keeping fairly quiet. Until the equaliser!! And then the pen. I had such a good view of it. We were cheated!! 😭 UTG! These things seem to balance up over an entire season, we have had many poor decisions against us and been very lucky with others. I am not panicking but i do hope we get at least 2 of the incoming, that are of quality. I do not see Loft as doing anything but hope to be proved wrong, i hope the manager manages to pull off some magic but maybe that is asking too much especially after last season
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Post by Kingswood Polak on Aug 20, 2022 22:32:39 GMT
Watch the replay of the penalty incident. You can clearly see the Rovers player's left leg deliberately kick into Rafferty's, Robert Pires style. That's why the ref didn't give it. As regards the alleged push there's nothing in it. Certainly not enough to make him fall over. He's about to shoot and the contact prevents him from doing it. I guess you'll see it how want though. Also, watch your defender - what sort of challenge is that? Just my opinion but i see no cocking of the trigger foot, as if to shoot.
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Post by kruger on Aug 20, 2022 22:48:52 GMT
I have not read this thread, I have never known such a one sided ref in all the time I have been going to watch Rovers, I have been going since 1980, I'm not one to blame the refs week in week out but we were playing against 12 men today, well 11 men and one f......g p...k. I am fuming, he obviously either hated Rovers or loved Portsmouth but whatever the reason we were never going to win that game with him in charge, well done ref your team won.
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Post by Kingswood Polak on Aug 20, 2022 22:57:05 GMT
I have not read this thread, I have never known such a one sided ref in all the time I have been going to watch Rovers, I have been going since 1980, I'm not one to blame the refs week in week out but we were playing against 12 men today, well 11 men and one f......g p...k. I am fuming, he obviously either hated Rovers or loved Portsmouth but whatever the reason we were never going to win that game with him in charge, well done ref your team won. Maybe a Barton thing. Let’s be fair, most of us intensely disliked him while he was at Fleetwood and i do think his past precedes him. Fleetwood were a dirty and time wasting machine. Given the amount iof anger here, i would imagine the ref will be reported but then, does the EFL have the bottle to do anything ? Seems the Rovers are having a lot of attention and from the wrong places. I do wonder , sometimes
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Post by Wimborne Gas on Aug 20, 2022 23:13:56 GMT
I have not read this thread, I have never known such a one sided ref in all the time I have been going to watch Rovers, I have been going since 1980, I'm not one to blame the refs week in week out but we were playing against 12 men today, well 11 men and one f......g p...k. I am fuming, he obviously either hated Rovers or loved Portsmouth but whatever the reason we were never going to win that game with him in charge, well done ref your team won. Maybe a Barton thing. Let’s be fair, most of us intensely disliked him while he was at Fleetwood and i do think his past precedes him. Fleetwood were a dirty and time wasting machine. Given the amount iof anger here, i would imagine the ref will be reported but then, does the EFL have the bottle to do anything ? Seems the Rovers are having a lot of attention and from the wrong places. I do wonder , sometimes Refs should be impartial and make decisions based on what they see on the pitch, not who’s sat in the dugout. If they don’t, they shouldn’t be reffing at this level. There were so many occasions Pompey were getting decisions for things that we weren’t. Having given the first pen, he had to give the 2nd. Regardless of whether decisions are right or not, consistency is all I, and probably most other fans ask for.
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Post by frattonender on Aug 20, 2022 23:26:32 GMT
I have not read this thread, I have never known such a one sided ref in all the time I have been going to watch Rovers, I have been going since 1980, I'm not one to blame the refs week in week out but we were playing against 12 men today, well 11 men and one f......g p...k. I am fuming, he obviously either hated Rovers or loved Portsmouth but whatever the reason we were never going to win that game with him in charge, well done ref your team won.
I don't think it's a case of Gavin Ward either loving Portsmouth or hating Rovers, more a case of him being a pretty sh1t ref. In my group of five in the pub before the match three of us knew who he was (never a good sign) and weren't looking forward as we've been on the end of some bizarre decisions from him in recent seasons.
I thought it was interesting that in his interview with BBC Radio Solent after the game Cowley suggested that from his viewpoint the likelihood was that neither were penalties. It chimes with what those in our group were saying, which was that he's one of a few refs we know at this level (the recently retired Brett Huxtable being another) who gives decisions based on what he thinks probably happened rather than what he's actually seen.
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Post by strads1983 on Aug 20, 2022 23:35:49 GMT
Interesting listening to Danny Cowley… He thought his players were fitter- kept going to the end and that was one of the decisive factors in the game. Not heard that said very often that the opposition were fitter than our boys. That said we have a number ‘ in the process’ of getting match fit so hopefully better times ahead. Absolute none sense that they were the fitter team, but he would say this as his team won!! On another note we almost went toe to toe with Pompey in their back garden and without the extra 5 players to add depth to the squad. They had depth to their squad as shown by their substitutions. Encouraging signs… not sure when I’ve last said I’ve enjoyed watching rovers when we’ve lost. More cutting edge needed in the final third please
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Post by tbonegas on Aug 21, 2022 2:22:48 GMT
Once again Kilgour gets the blame. It was Anderson, watch the highlights. Deffo not Calamity Kilgour. He was stood by Belshaw.
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Post by gulfofaden on Aug 21, 2022 5:27:26 GMT
Pompey get their customary big ground penalty from a weak referee. It’s a hollow win for them because it wasn’t deserved, and deep down, they know it.
As for the “red card”, rewatched it, and whelan goes for the ball, and Thompson just jumps in the way.
Their fans are all over social media making a terrible case for themselves like they always are, the same ones who hang off the railings like apes beating their chests whenever they come here.
Have pride Gasheads, we only lost that game on paper. If the referee wasn’t a bottler, that would have been 1-2.
If I was Joey I’d be showing them how much they celebrated getting fortunate decisions. They’re just happy to have had the result, they know they got out of that luckily but there’s no real substance.
It’s played over a season and they won’t have gifts like that every week, they will most certainly get refs they can’t influence like yesterday, and they’ll have to form another plan rather than lucking out from terrible, weak decisions.
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Post by gulfofaden on Aug 21, 2022 5:41:19 GMT
I have not read this thread, I have never known such a one sided ref in all the time I have been going to watch Rovers, I have been going since 1980, I'm not one to blame the refs week in week out but we were playing against 12 men today, well 11 men and one f......g p...k. I am fuming, he obviously either hated Rovers or loved Portsmouth but whatever the reason we were never going to win that game with him in charge, well done ref your team won.
I don't think it's a case of Gavin Ward either loving Portsmouth or hating Rovers, more a case of him being a pretty sh1t ref. In my group of five in the pub before the match three of us knew who he was (never a good sign) and weren't looking forward as we've been on the end of some bizarre decisions from him in recent seasons.
I thought it was interesting that in his interview with BBC Radio Solent after the game Cowley suggested that from his viewpoint the likelihood was that neither were penalties. It chimes with what those in our group were saying, which was that he's one of a few refs we know at this level (the recently retired Brett Huxtable being another) who gives decisions based on what he thinks probably happened rather than what he's actually seen.
I’ve never seen one as stonewall as the one he didn’t give, and the one he gave was the softest you will see anywhere. He may be sh1te, I think he’s just weak. He got intimidated, your fans should take credit for that. It won’t happen with most refs so enjoy it for what it is. When we have a big ground we might get them too.
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Post by chippenhamgas on Aug 21, 2022 6:28:21 GMT
I don't think it's a case of Gavin Ward either loving Portsmouth or hating Rovers, more a case of him being a pretty sh1t ref. In my group of five in the pub before the match three of us knew who he was (never a good sign) and weren't looking forward as we've been on the end of some bizarre decisions from him in recent seasons.
I thought it was interesting that in his interview with BBC Radio Solent after the game Cowley suggested that from his viewpoint the likelihood was that neither were penalties. It chimes with what those in our group were saying, which was that he's one of a few refs we know at this level (the recently retired Brett Huxtable being another) who gives decisions based on what he thinks probably happened rather than what he's actually seen.
I’ve never seen one as stonewall as the one he didn’t give, and the one he gave was the softest you will see anywhere. He may be sh1te, I think he’s just weak. He got intimidated, your fans should take credit for that. It won’t happen with most refs so enjoy it for what it is. When we have a big ground we might get them too. "When we have a big ground" absolute comedy!🤣
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Post by gasandelectricity on Aug 21, 2022 6:41:11 GMT
I’ve never seen one as stonewall as the one he didn’t give, and the one he gave was the softest you will see anywhere. He may be sh1te, I think he’s just weak. He got intimidated, your fans should take credit for that. It won’t happen with most refs so enjoy it for what it is. When we have a big ground we might get them too. "When we have a big ground" absolute comedy!🤣 Annnnd here Chippenham is. Anything else to say about the match? Or have you just gone full troll?
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