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Post by walter1147 on Aug 22, 2022 8:05:52 GMT
Pompey have been underachievers and crap since the 1980s apart from a spell under Harry Redknapp, when they borrowed loads of money they didn't have the capacity to repay, and indeed did not pay it back. Credit to their fans though. They stick with them. They went into administration in the late 90's as well. We raided them for David Hillier, Robbie Pethick and Andy Thomson. It winds me up actually. Clubs like us who try to live within in our means seem to always be worse off than clubs like Portsmouth who seem to get into financial difficulties reguarly yet always manage to wriggle out of it and end up better off. It winds you up? What do you think it does for us? As supporters we had no say in Gaydamac using the club to launder money from his dad's gun running business. Or the Hong Kong business man who saw Fratton Park as a building development site to earn himself a few bob. We had no say in the two Romanian crooks who managed to blag their way through the Football League's 'fit and proper test'. Some people like to criticise but don't really look into what they are saying really. Portsmouth, like Bristol, is a very historic city. It is steeped in heritage, again much like your fair city. But while you throw around the negativity as you see fit, please consider this. When Gaydamac owned the club he inherited everything within which included furniture from Nelson's wardroom on HMS Victory which was in the boardroom of his new office. This is a piece of British heritage and of historical value to our nation. What did Gaydamac do? He had it thrown out in favour of some modern furniture. It was found a few years later in a skip and it has been saved. Now what has this to do with football? It demonstrates just how disrespectful owners can be when passing through. The clubs supporters had no say in what happened or the city of Portsmouth itself but, in my opinion, it was an act of gross vandalism.
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Post by bluegas on Aug 22, 2022 8:10:15 GMT
You might. I don't. I wasn't much good at school except English, language and literature. I have worked mostly in sales. I think I know when someone's disguising a sarcastic pot at us. The main thrust of it, predictably, was against JB, which many will say we'll have to get used to. Whatever - I wouldn't go on someone else's forum doing it. You have made up your mind then. I am sorry if you have misinterpreted my post as 'sarcasm' as it certainly wasn't intended as such. I was simply giving my veiws of the game as I saw them. Fine to have your views, but again, why come on a Rovers forum with them? I wouldn't dream of doing it. I was at the game and have my views, the main one being that the referee showed bias throughout the game. I cannot comment on Pompey's penalty as it was down the other end in shadow. The Thompson incident I was genuinely looking the other way, although I couldn't have seen it in detail anyway. Our penalty was right in front of me and looked genuine in real time. How the referee could see in real time what slomo close-up showed after beats me.
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Post by warehamgas on Aug 22, 2022 8:27:07 GMT
They went into administration in the late 90's as well. We raided them for David Hillier, Robbie Pethick and Andy Thomson. It winds me up actually. Clubs like us who try to live within in our means seem to always be worse off than clubs like Portsmouth who seem to get into financial difficulties reguarly yet always manage to wriggle out of it and end up better off. It winds you up? What do you think it does for us? As supporters we had no say in Gaydamac using the club to launder money from his dad's gun running business. Or the Hong Kong business man who saw Fratton Park as a building development site to earn himself a few bob. We had no say in the two Romanian crooks who managed to blag their way through the Football League's 'fit and proper test'. Some people like to criticise but don't really look into what they are saying really. Portsmouth, like Bristol, is a very historic city. It is steeped in heritage, again much like your fair city. But while you throw around the negativity as you see fit, please consider this. When Gaydamac owned the club he inherited everything within which included furniture from Nelson's wardroom on HMS Victory which was in the boardroom of his new office. This is a piece of British heritage and of historical value to our nation. What did Gaydamac do? He had it thrown out in favour of some modern furniture. It was found a few years later in a skip and it has been saved. Now what has this to do with football? It demonstrates just how disrespectful owners can be when passing through. The clubs supporters had no say in what happened or the city of Portsmouth itself but, in my opinion, it was an act of gross vandalism. Confine it to the football. You went into administration and what you haven’t mentioned and few do when talking about how badly treated they have been is the damage your club through not paying their debts did to the businesses and community of Portsmouth. As when all clubs go into admin the football businesses get some of the debts back but the outside businesses don’t and that has an impact for them. Did they get their money owed back when the Trust or the present owner take over. I bet they didn’t. So lots of families and businesses ruined would imagine. Anyway you deserved to win Saturday but from where I was sat (front row lower North Stand level with 18 yard line) I won’t see a more obviously pen than the one not given. And had it been it would have been a different result, probably. Anyway, onto Saturday. UTG!
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Post by warehamgas on Aug 22, 2022 10:21:56 GMT
I hate us having to play Pompey, no disrespect but the chants and bells and what not grate a little 😂 but whenever we play I can’t help but get a sense of a real occasion brewing up and a proper football match about to commence. Pompey is a proper football club, with proper passionate supporters and I hope we can both ascend the leagues with the fixture staying in the calendar. Albeit with us making a much better effort in the longer term than we have done historically, especially at Fratton Park. Spot on. I hate playing them because at Fratton they usually do us. But it was a great atmosphere on Saturday and we were always in it and being sat in with the home fans near to our support it was quite heated. The people I was sat next to realised through the match that I was probably a gashead but were fine. I was quiet and we had some decent chats so no problem. They had a moan about the noise our lot were making. I asked them would you rather have a 100 from Accrington or 70 from Morecambe and no atmosphere or our lot and they admitted that it made for a special occasion, grudgingly!! And fair play to Pompey I thought Fratton Park looked better and of course they have done some improvements on the sides of the ground and it has improved the place. Well done to them. A proper place to watch football, closed in stadium with atmosphere. UTG!
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Post by kruger on Aug 22, 2022 11:16:22 GMT
You have made up your mind then. I am sorry if you have misinterpreted my post as 'sarcasm' as it certainly wasn't intended as such. I was simply giving my veiws of the game as I saw them. Fine to have your views, but again, why come on a Rovers forum with them? I wouldn't dream of doing it. I was at the game and have my views, the main one being that the referee showed bias throughout the game. I cannot comment on Pompey's penalty as it was down the other end in shadow. The Thompson incident I was genuinely looking the other way, although I couldn't have seen it in detail anyway. Our penalty was right in front of me and looked genuine in real time. How the referee could see in real time what slomo close-up showed after beats me. That idiot who calls himself a ref was as bad as they come, he was the most bias ref I have ever seen in the 42 years I have been going, I can't say if their penalty was or not but what I do know is he wasn't going to give it until the reaction of their crowd like it was all game, everytime they shouted for something they got it when we wanted something it was waved away, I really hope we never have to put up with that so called ref again and if he does come to the mem we should boo him from the minute he walks on the pitch to the minute he walks off, it won't effect the game because he won't give us anything anyway
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Post by walter1147 on Aug 22, 2022 11:53:57 GMT
It winds you up? What do you think it does for us? As supporters we had no say in Gaydamac using the club to launder money from his dad's gun running business. Or the Hong Kong business man who saw Fratton Park as a building development site to earn himself a few bob. We had no say in the two Romanian crooks who managed to blag their way through the Football League's 'fit and proper test'. Some people like to criticise but don't really look into what they are saying really. Portsmouth, like Bristol, is a very historic city. It is steeped in heritage, again much like your fair city. But while you throw around the negativity as you see fit, please consider this. When Gaydamac owned the club he inherited everything within which included furniture from Nelson's wardroom on HMS Victory which was in the boardroom of his new office. This is a piece of British heritage and of historical value to our nation. What did Gaydamac do? He had it thrown out in favour of some modern furniture. It was found a few years later in a skip and it has been saved. Now what has this to do with football? It demonstrates just how disrespectful owners can be when passing through. The clubs supporters had no say in what happened or the city of Portsmouth itself but, in my opinion, it was an act of gross vandalism. Confine it to the football. You went into administration and what you haven’t mentioned and few do when talking about how badly treated they have been is the damage your club through not paying their debts did to the businesses and community of Portsmouth. As when all clubs go into admin the football businesses get some of the debts back but the outside businesses don’t and that has an impact for them. Did they get their money owed back when the Trust or the present owner take over. I bet they didn’t. So lots of families and businesses ruined would imagine. Anyway you deserved to win Saturday but from where I was sat (front row lower North Stand level with 18 yard line) I won’t see a more obviously pen than the one not given. And had it been it would have been a different result, probably. Anyway, onto Saturday. UTG! Your good aren't you. You tell me to "Confine it to football" and then go on and give me a lecture on the ills of administration.
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Post by trueblur4u on Aug 22, 2022 12:00:19 GMT
Very impressive away following once again, considering Rovers are a small club! UTG.
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Post by walter1147 on Aug 22, 2022 12:03:38 GMT
You have made up your mind then. I am sorry if you have misinterpreted my post as 'sarcasm' as it certainly wasn't intended as such. I was simply giving my veiws of the game as I saw them. Fine to have your views, but again, why come on a Rovers forum with them? I wouldn't dream of doing it. I was at the game and have my views, the main one being that the referee showed bias throughout the game. I cannot comment on Pompey's penalty as it was down the other end in shadow. The Thompson incident I was genuinely looking the other way, although I couldn't have seen it in detail anyway. Our penalty was right in front of me and looked genuine in real time. How the referee could see in real time what slomo close-up showed after beats me. We spoke to a few Rovers fans before the game and had a nice friendly chat with them. I think it is nice to have a civil conversation with supporters from other clubs and they were more friendly than you.
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Post by Claremont Gas on Aug 22, 2022 12:10:25 GMT
Fine to have your views, but again, why come on a Rovers forum with them? I wouldn't dream of doing it. I was at the game and have my views, the main one being that the referee showed bias throughout the game. I cannot comment on Pompey's penalty as it was down the other end in shadow. The Thompson incident I was genuinely looking the other way, although I couldn't have seen it in detail anyway. Our penalty was right in front of me and looked genuine in real time. How the referee could see in real time what slomo close-up showed after beats me. We spoke to a few Rovers fans before the game and had a nice friendly chat with them. I think it is nice to have a civil conversation with supporters from other clubs and they were more friendly than you. Thought it was a good game on Saturday - Pompey the home side going for it, Us containing it largely and looking to work a gameplan. Two sets of committed teams - both sets of fans very vocal making it a superb atmosphere. Game was only spoilt by an attrocious referee which was a shame. Think it will be a lot tighter when we play again at the Mem.... Thanks for sharing the stuff on Nelson .... Bloody Hell that is appalling. Thank Goodness it was recovered.
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Post by 2nd May 1990 on Aug 22, 2022 12:20:53 GMT
Fine to have your views, but again, why come on a Rovers forum with them? I wouldn't dream of doing it. I was at the game and have my views, the main one being that the referee showed bias throughout the game. I cannot comment on Pompey's penalty as it was down the other end in shadow. The Thompson incident I was genuinely looking the other way, although I couldn't have seen it in detail anyway. Our penalty was right in front of me and looked genuine in real time. How the referee could see in real time what slomo close-up showed after beats me. We spoke to a few Rovers fans before the game and had a nice friendly chat with them. I think it is nice to have a civil conversation with supporters from other clubs and they were more friendly than you. I agree completely. I went to our away match at Barnsley last Tuesday with my 9 year old son and tried to strike up a conversation with a few of the home fans on the way, but they treated me with a high degree of suspicion and basically didn’t want to know Mostly I’ve found that home supporters are welcoming at games, though.
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Post by Tilly's Thighs on Aug 22, 2022 14:53:36 GMT
Fine to have your views, but again, why come on a Rovers forum with them? I wouldn't dream of doing it. I was at the game and have my views, the main one being that the referee showed bias throughout the game. I cannot comment on Pompey's penalty as it was down the other end in shadow. The Thompson incident I was genuinely looking the other way, although I couldn't have seen it in detail anyway. Our penalty was right in front of me and looked genuine in real time. How the referee could see in real time what slomo close-up showed after beats me. We spoke to a few Rovers fans before the game and had a nice friendly chat with them. I think it is nice to have a civil conversation with supporters from other clubs and they were more friendly than you. Always enjoy the opportunity to have a chat with the opposition supporters, home or away.
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Post by Topper Gas on Aug 22, 2022 14:58:02 GMT
They went into administration in the late 90's as well. We raided them for David Hillier, Robbie Pethick and Andy Thomson. It winds me up actually. Clubs like us who try to live within in our means seem to always be worse off than clubs like Portsmouth who seem to get into financial difficulties reguarly yet always manage to wriggle out of it and end up better off. It winds you up? What do you think it does for us? As supporters we had no say in Gaydamac using the club to launder money from his dad's gun running business. Or the Hong Kong business man who saw Fratton Park as a building development site to earn himself a few bob. We had no say in the two Romanian crooks who managed to blag their way through the Football League's 'fit and proper test'. Some people like to criticise but don't really look into what they are saying really. Portsmouth, like Bristol, is a very historic city. It is steeped in heritage, again much like your fair city. But while you throw around the negativity as you see fit, please consider this. When Gaydamac owned the club he inherited everything within which included furniture from Nelson's wardroom on HMS Victory which was in the boardroom of his new office. This is a piece of British heritage and of historical value to our nation. What did Gaydamac do? He had it thrown out in favour of some modern furniture. It was found a few years later in a skip and it has been saved. Now what has this to do with football? It demonstrates just how disrespectful owners can be when passing through. The clubs supporters had no say in what happened or the city of Portsmouth itself but, in my opinion, it was an act of gross vandalism. We were forced to play in Bath for years and had to witness our own ground being demolished to make way for a supermarket, that's a bit harder to take than having a bit of furniture thrown out. I guess you weren't complaining when you were watching Pompey in the Premiership and also the FA Cup final? If you want another club's fans to feel sorry for you, then you're posting on the wrong club's forum.
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Post by warehamgas on Aug 22, 2022 15:13:29 GMT
Confine it to the football. You went into administration and what you haven’t mentioned and few do when talking about how badly treated they have been is the damage your club through not paying their debts did to the businesses and community of Portsmouth. As when all clubs go into admin the football businesses get some of the debts back but the outside businesses don’t and that has an impact for them. Did they get their money owed back when the Trust or the present owner take over. I bet they didn’t. So lots of families and businesses ruined would imagine. Anyway you deserved to win Saturday but from where I was sat (front row lower North Stand level with 18 yard line) I won’t see a more obviously pen than the one not given. And had it been it would have been a different result, probably. Anyway, onto Saturday. UTG! Your good aren't you. You tell me to "Confine it to football" and then go on and give me a lecture on the ills of administration. Blimey, what did you expect? You come on here, play your ‘woe is me’ card about the owners you’ve had and when I point out about the impact of it on the businesses and community of Portsmouth not only do you not answer it but call it a lecture!! Laughable. And just to be clear, before you go back on your own forum and moan about the reception you got here, no one is disputing your team winning the match, you did and probably deserved it. So no sour grapes from us, just a tad jarred off with you coming on here trying to get sympathy. (Now that probably is a bit of a lecture!! 😉) UTG!
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Post by walter1147 on Aug 22, 2022 17:28:45 GMT
Wow, some of you are not very friendly. I wasn't looking for sympathy for my club as you seem to think. But it would appear you are unable or not interested in civil grown up conversation unless mirrors your views. OK fair enough then I won't lose any sleep about your rudeness, maybe it makes you feel good.
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Post by yattongas on Aug 22, 2022 17:39:06 GMT
Wow, some of you are not very friendly. I wasn't looking for sympathy for my club as you seem to think. But it would appear you are unable or not interested in civil grown up conversation unless mirrors your views. OK fair enough then I won't lose any sleep about your rudeness, maybe it makes you feel good. You’re on another’s club forum after your club defeated us….. hardly surprising you’ll get a few barbed comments is it ? Anyway …… good luck for the rest of the season and commiserations on missing out on promotion yet again. 😜
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Post by walter1147 on Aug 22, 2022 17:44:13 GMT
It winds you up? What do you think it does for us? As supporters we had no say in Gaydamac using the club to launder money from his dad's gun running business. Or the Hong Kong business man who saw Fratton Park as a building development site to earn himself a few bob. We had no say in the two Romanian crooks who managed to blag their way through the Football League's 'fit and proper test'. Some people like to criticise but don't really look into what they are saying really. Portsmouth, like Bristol, is a very historic city. It is steeped in heritage, again much like your fair city. But while you throw around the negativity as you see fit, please consider this. When Gaydamac owned the club he inherited everything within which included furniture from Nelson's wardroom on HMS Victory which was in the boardroom of his new office. This is a piece of British heritage and of historical value to our nation. What did Gaydamac do? He had it thrown out in favour of some modern furniture. It was found a few years later in a skip and it has been saved. Now what has this to do with football? It demonstrates just how disrespectful owners can be when passing through. The clubs supporters had no say in what happened or the city of Portsmouth itself but, in my opinion, it was an act of gross vandalism. We were forced to play in Bath for years and had to witness our own ground being demolished to make way for a supermarket, that's a bit harder to take than having a bit of furniture thrown out. I guess you weren't complaining when you were watching Pompey in the Premiership and also the FA Cup final? If you want another club's fans to feel sorry for you, then you're posting on the wrong club's forum. I remember you having to leave Eastville and play miles away in Bath. It must have been a wrench to leave your old ground but, as usual, loyal supporters kept the club alive. You are absolutely correct about us not complaining about winning the cup or doing so well in the Premiership. We did wonder where all this money was coming from, including the players themselves. Of course as it turned out it was dirty money and was never going to be long term and without warning the plug was pulled. I suppose your post was meant to be terse, perhaps even suggesting it was known by the club and their supporters where the money came from, even turning a blind eye. As far as we knew and told the money was from freight and investments but as we know now it was a big fat lie. Maybe it serves a purpose making out the club and supporters are all crooks to some people. It possibly helps hatred of the club more because of a dubious penalty decision. Who knows?
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Post by kruger on Aug 22, 2022 17:54:04 GMT
I personally don't dislike Portsmouth, now the referee is another matter, I really really don't like him at all, and not keen on your manager either after trying to get our player sent off, don't mind the fans though
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Post by Gassy on Aug 22, 2022 18:05:52 GMT
But it would appear you are unable or not interested in civil grown up conversation unless mirrors your views. Welcome to GasChat
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Post by bluegas on Aug 22, 2022 18:39:53 GMT
Fine to have your views, but again, why come on a Rovers forum with them? I wouldn't dream of doing it. I was at the game and have my views, the main one being that the referee showed bias throughout the game. I cannot comment on Pompey's penalty as it was down the other end in shadow. The Thompson incident I was genuinely looking the other way, although I couldn't have seen it in detail anyway. Our penalty was right in front of me and looked genuine in real time. How the referee could see in real time what slomo close-up showed after beats me. We spoke to a few Rovers fans before the game and had a nice friendly chat with them. I think it is nice to have a civil conversation with supporters from other clubs and they were more friendly than you. What did you speak to the Rover's fans about? How their manager is a thug and the team is becoming the same? How we're a poor side? And whingers and whiners? I would love to have heard it.
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Post by walter1147 on Aug 22, 2022 19:15:10 GMT
We spoke to a few Rovers fans before the game and had a nice friendly chat with them. I think it is nice to have a civil conversation with supporters from other clubs and they were more friendly than you. What did you speak to the Rover's fans about? How their manager is a thug and the team is becoming the same? How we're a poor side? And whingers and whiners? I would love to have heard it. Oddly enough we chatted about our teams, exchanging veiws on who we should watch out for in each of our sides. You know civilised stuff like what we hoped for the season and what we expected. I told them I expect to be close this season but miss out to the bigger spending teams while you're people said they hoped for a top 10 place, but consolidation was the main thing. We did talk about the managers, as it happens, I told them I didn't really rate the Cowley's but I did prefer them to Barton. Your people said that Barton could be an embarrassment sometimes but nothing too serious so far. We even talked about places they might like to go to in the City as they were staying over. Is that OK? I have the feeling that our conversation didn't fit in with your bullish attitude towards normally mild mannered people in a civilised world but I am sorry to disappointed you. There were a few loud mouthy people who thought the way to support their team was to chant obscenities about Portsmouth. But every club has those sort of individuals following them, Pompey certainly has. But there you are,most people are fair minded polite people who are able to converse with each other. You should try it.
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