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Post by lastminutewinner on Oct 11, 2022 10:36:27 GMT
Marquis is a very clever player, his movement off the ball is very good. Unfortunately we haven't exploited this enough so far, for me he's a starter with Collins and either Loft or Coburn. It's always good to have different types of strikers/options. I still don't see what Marquis offers though. What good is movement when he doesnt do anything when it comes near him - all we can hope is he gets more tap-in's like the ones he has put away so far Play it to his feet and he usually gives away possession. Play it in front of him and he is too slow to react. Play it high and he inevitably gets beat or gives away a free kick |
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Post by Topper Gas on Oct 11, 2022 10:47:14 GMT
The players aren't clever enough to use Marquis' off the ball movement but have no problems with assisting Loft and Coburn with goals, how does that work?
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Post by woolavingtonpirate on Oct 11, 2022 14:52:16 GMT
The players aren't clever enough to use Marquis' off the ball movement but have no problems with assisting Loft and Coburn with goals, how does that work? It takes time to 'click'. After all its taken loft a while,also took Collins some time to get off the mark for us. we shouldn't be too quick to write Marquis off. |
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Post by lastminutewinner on Oct 11, 2022 15:20:40 GMT
He seems to be getting progressively worse with his strike rate;
Donny: 1 goal every 2.1 games
Portsmouth: 1 goal every 3.3 games
Lincoln: 1 goal every 4 games
Gas: 1 goal every 5.5 games
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Post by toggsy2 on Oct 12, 2022 15:49:51 GMT
He seems to be getting progressively worse with his strike rate; Donny: 1 goal every 2.1 games Portsmouth: 1 goal every 3.3 games Lincoln: 1 goal every 4 games Gas: 1 goal every 5.5 games Well he's an improvement on Pittman which wasn't hard 😉😂 |
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Post by curlywurly on Oct 12, 2022 17:54:32 GMT
The players aren't clever enough to use Marquis' off the ball movement but have no problems with assisting Loft and Coburn with goals, how does that work? It takes time to 'click'. After all its taken loft a while,also took Collins some time to get off the mark for us. we shouldn't be too quick to write Marquis off. If you look at Marquis' goals, the vast majority are within the 6 yard box and rely on low crosses from a winger getting to the byline. For most of the season, we've played without this, with the possible exception of Collins and Sylvester Jasper's cameos. We've lacked width and, despite the ideal that 3 at the back* provides this, we've still tended to try to play Marquis as a target man. He's clever, but he's not a target man and we would perform much better playing to his strengths.
Once he's regained fitness, I'd suggest using Jasper and Marquis as 'finishers' off the bench at 60 mins, but also to get some width down the right hand side.
*I know we've played 4 at the back for Cambridge and MK - says something doesn't it?
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Post by pucklegas on Oct 12, 2022 18:06:50 GMT
For all the doubters watch the Donny montage of his goals on YouTube, he is an accomplished finisher.
He works hard going to be a success here.
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Post by Topper Gas on Oct 12, 2022 18:10:51 GMT
It takes time to 'click'. After all its taken loft a while,also took Collins some time to get off the mark for us. we shouldn't be too quick to write Marquis off. If you look at Marquis' goals, the vast majority are within the 6 yard box and rely on low crosses from a winger getting to the byline. For most of the season, we've played without this, with the possible exception of Collins and Sylvester Jasper's cameos. We've lacked width and, despite the ideal that 3 at the back* provides this, we've still tended to try to play Marquis as a target man. He's clever, but he's not a target man and we would perform much better playing to his strengths.
Once he's regained fitness, I'd suggest using Jasper and Marquis as 'finishers' off the bench at 60 mins, but also to get some width down the right hand side.
*I know we've played 4 at the back for Cambridge and MK - says something doesn't it?
Coburn's goal on Saturday was from a cross from the wing? Perhaps it's no coincidence that we've won the last two games without Marquis being in the side? Perhaps time's caught up with him and L1 is now beyond him. |
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Post by curlywurly on Oct 12, 2022 23:22:56 GMT
If you look at Marquis' goals, the vast majority are within the 6 yard box and rely on low crosses from a winger getting to the byline. For most of the season, we've played without this, with the possible exception of Collins and Sylvester Jasper's cameos. We've lacked width and, despite the ideal that 3 at the back* provides this, we've still tended to try to play Marquis as a target man. He's clever, but he's not a target man and we would perform much better playing to his strengths.
Once he's regained fitness, I'd suggest using Jasper and Marquis as 'finishers' off the bench at 60 mins, but also to get some width down the right hand side.
*I know we've played 4 at the back for Cambridge and MK - says something doesn't it?
Coburn's goal on Saturday was from a cross from the wing? Perhaps it's no coincidence that we've won the last two games without Marquis being in the side? Perhaps time's caught up with him and L1 is now beyond him. I don't agree that L1 is beyond him, just felt that we've tended to lump the ball up to him too much and not played with as much width as we did previously. Collins cross for Coburn's goal is precisely the thing that we should have been doing more of for Marquis.
I'd argue that going to a back 4 and the return of several players from injury is the reason we've won the last 2 (3) games
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Post by Topper Gas on Oct 13, 2022 8:03:22 GMT
I doubt that was the first time this season Collins put in that type of cross?
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Post by lastminutewinner on Oct 13, 2022 10:58:15 GMT
He seems to be getting progressively worse with his strike rate; Donny: 1 goal every 2.1 games Portsmouth: 1 goal every 3.3 games Lincoln: 1 goal every 4 games Gas: 1 goal every 5.5 games Well he's an improvement on Pittman which wasn't hard 😉😂 Jury is still out on that one |
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Post by eric on Oct 13, 2022 11:07:37 GMT
Us Gasheads love to think of ourselves as a special bunch of supporters but some are very quick to turn on our players and find scapegoats when things aren’t going well. We’ve had so many great strikers over the years and some have made very slow starts, Lambert, Roberts, Taylor, Collins but we still don’t learn our lesson and give them time.
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Post by Topper Gas on Oct 13, 2022 11:23:29 GMT
We're simply discussing a player, nobody's turned on him or looking for a scapegoat. Given how much support Nichols got from fans we're probably some of the most patient around.
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Post by eric on Oct 13, 2022 11:46:19 GMT
Kilgour was getting a lot of stick a few weeks ago. Loft not long before that. Collins was getting stick before Xmas last year. A few have even turned on Belshaw a bit this year when he should have had more credit in the bank than anyone. I’d just like to see a bit more patience and support from the fanbase personally.
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Post by 2nd May 1990 on Oct 13, 2022 12:06:37 GMT
Kilgour was getting a lot of stick a few weeks ago. Loft not long before that. Collins was getting stick before Xmas last year. A few have even turned on Belshaw a bit this year when he should have had more credit in the bank than anyone. I’d just like to see a bit more patience and support from the fanbase personally. I agree. For what it’s worth I think Marquis never stopped running against Exeter and got the goal his efforts deserved. We look well stocked up front at the moment and I’m sure Collins, Loft, Coburn and Marquis all have a big part to play. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Oct 13, 2022 13:46:57 GMT
Kilgour was getting a lot of stick a few weeks ago. Loft not long before that. Collins was getting stick before Xmas last year. A few have even turned on Belshaw a bit this year when he should have had more credit in the bank than anyone. I’d just like to see a bit more patience and support from the fanbase personally. I'd imagine as a fan base goes Gasheads are more patient than most, most stuck by Barton last season even when he couldn't buy us a win. |
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Post by lastminutewinner on Oct 13, 2022 14:15:16 GMT
Its not like players dont get support at the games. Forums are designed for discussions and player performance is an obvious topic
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