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Post by yattongas on Jun 7, 2023 20:45:41 GMT
Maybe it would have been better to not have introduced the furlough scheme let millions lose their jobs and millions of businesses go down the pan. Tbh, I agree with you. $21bn is a necessary price IMO. However it begs a few questions: - Why was it that much? A more competent government would have minimised that. Your reply kind of suggests it was economy crash or $21bn which isn’t really the case, there’s an in between. - Why was the UK economy still the worst hit of the main European countries? Kinda feels like a lose lose? A genuine question for you, what are your thoughts on the government taking legal action on the covid enquiry? Although I think Boris is making a political decision, I’ll give him credit for handing (or wanting to) his messages over. Although let’s be honest he could easily handover the messages from pre-2021. Let’s be honest that’s the real stuff we’re actually after. You agree that £21 billion of fraud was an acceptable price to pay ? Wow 😯 How does this compare to comparable countries? Seems an awful lot to me and as a law abiding citizen I’m amazed I live amongst so many money grabbing criminals 🙄
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Post by Gassy on Jun 7, 2023 21:15:11 GMT
Tbh, I agree with you. $21bn is a necessary price IMO. However it begs a few questions: - Why was it that much? A more competent government would have minimised that. Your reply kind of suggests it was economy crash or $21bn which isn’t really the case, there’s an in between. - Why was the UK economy still the worst hit of the main European countries? Kinda feels like a lose lose? A genuine question for you, what are your thoughts on the government taking legal action on the covid enquiry? Although I think Boris is making a political decision, I’ll give him credit for handing (or wanting to) his messages over. Although let’s be honest he could easily handover the messages from pre-2021. Let’s be honest that’s the real stuff we’re actually after. You agree that £21 billion of fraud was an acceptable price to pay ? Wow 😯 How does this compare to comparable countries? Seems an awful lot to me and as a law abiding citizen I’m amazed I live amongst so many money grabbing criminals 🙄 Never said it’s acceptable. It’s an unwanted but worth it loss. To France’s point, if we didn’t do anything then the economy would have lost a hell of a lot more than £21bn. However, I also raised 2 points that should have minimised that loss if we had a competent government.
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Post by stuart1974 on Jun 8, 2023 12:03:18 GMT
Not sure which thread this best sits in, Macron has a plan. "The European Political Community is asking Britain a question. After so much acrimony Macron has built a European house that post-Brexit Britain can live in. But what does it want from it? European officials believe that this structure offers a chance for Britain to build a new set of agreements — for example on migration, climate, security or corruption — that amount to a softer form of non-intrusive sovereign association with Europe acceptable to both sides of the political divide in Europe. Across Central and Eastern Europe, many officials are hoping the UK will answer this question with ambition — helping to also build a house that can house Ukraine on its long road to European membership. The next summit is due to take place in Spain in October. By then Britain should be ready to answer." www.standard.co.uk/comment/comment/emmanuel-macron-plan-brexit-britain-europe-b1086474.html?utm_source=upday&utm_medium=referral
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Post by supergas on Jun 9, 2023 10:03:06 GMT
You agree that £21 billion of fraud was an acceptable price to pay ? Wow 😯 How does this compare to comparable countries? Seems an awful lot to me and as a law abiding citizen I’m amazed I live amongst so many money grabbing criminals 🙄 It's hard to compare as different countries are measuring/reporting it in different ways. But a quick google suggests the UK is not an 'outlier'... The US is reporting $80 billion in fraud from the Covid Paycheck Protection Program, anywhere between $90 billion to $400 billion in fraud from the Covid unemployment relief program and another $80 billion potentially pilfered fraudulently from a separate Covid disaster relief program. So that's a minimum of $250bn USD (£199bn) and potentially up to $560bn USD (£447bn) www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/biggest-fraud-generation-looting-covid-relief-program-known-ppp-n1279664Japan saw high levels of fraud (https://mainichi.jp/english/articles/20220615/p2a/00m/0na/019000c). So did Australia (https://www.accc.gov.au/system/files/English%20-%20COVID-19%20scams%20fact%20sheet.pdf). The EU probably did but it's not yet clear if they've even started working out how much it cost them and/or their member states...
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Post by yattongas on Jun 9, 2023 15:32:19 GMT
Such a sad loss ….
Looks like Johnson’s crooked list of cronies to get gifted House of Lords gig is imminent 🙄🇬🇧
update…..
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Post by stuart1974 on Jun 9, 2023 17:13:39 GMT
I wouldn't be surprised if she is doing this in revenge against Sunak, forcing a by election which it is rumoured what prevented her getting into the Lords.
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Post by yattongas on Jun 9, 2023 17:19:00 GMT
The absolute state of that list, truly shocking .
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Post by stuart1974 on Jun 11, 2023 16:03:32 GMT
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Post by yattongas on Jun 11, 2023 19:53:53 GMT
Fire sale , got it dirt cheap of this Scottish geezer, why do you ask ?
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Post by stuart1974 on Jun 11, 2023 19:58:02 GMT
Fire sale , got it dirt cheap of this Scottish geezer, why do you ask ? Oh no reason. 😇
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Post by stuart1974 on Jun 12, 2023 10:53:40 GMT
Apologies to '79 for a tweet. 😉
The Conservative civil war being aired in public. Surprisingly (or probably not really) how few of the Boris backers have either gone quiet or are openly frustrated now. The Conservative dominated Standards Committee are reported to be apoplectic and considering a harder line in their report which may be published tomorrow.
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Post by yattongas on Jun 12, 2023 11:17:40 GMT
Apologies to '79 for a tweet. 😉 The Conservative civil war being aired in public. Surprisingly (or probably not really) how few of the Boris backers have either gone quiet or are openly frustrated now. The Conservative dominated Standards Committee are reported to be apoplectic and considering a harder line in their report which may be published tomorrow. Yeah ….but ……Harriet Harman 🙄
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Post by yattongas on Jun 13, 2023 11:05:22 GMT
💩 is gonna hit the fan soon….
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Post by stuart1974 on Jun 15, 2023 6:17:51 GMT
9am or thereabouts.
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Post by trevorgas on Jun 15, 2023 8:42:16 GMT
Wow that's a devastating report!!
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Post by yattongas on Jun 15, 2023 9:10:26 GMT
Imagine knowing you were a Boris Johnson flag waver now that’s he’s been proven a liar . Then imagine you banged on about Starmer having a curry for weeks .
Just imagine 🙄
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Post by harlaxtonblue on Jun 15, 2023 10:48:54 GMT
Imagine knowing you were a Boris Johnson flag waver now that’s he’s been proven a liar . Then imagine you banged on about Starmer having a curry for weeks . Just imagine 🙄 Imagine knowing our Boris handed you your ass , 80 seat majority was it not , you didn’t just get beat , you got battered , As for flip / flop ( stammer ) he doesn’t even know who’s got a penis or who hasn’t , and you laud him as someone who should run a country , & then there’s rayner , abbot , benn & the endless list of labour perverts who’ve had the whip / suspended from parliament As for flags I guess you’ll be flying your ira/ Hamas flag if the commies get in In !! Makes you wonder why all you country / flag haters are still here , thought you were all leaving after brexit , I remember you didn’t want to live in a bigoted/ racist country , but your still here ??
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Post by yattongas on Jun 15, 2023 10:54:33 GMT
Imagine knowing you were a Boris Johnson flag waver now that’s he’s been proven a liar . Then imagine you banged on about Starmer having a curry for weeks . Just imagine 🙄 Imagine knowing our Boris handed you your ass , 80 seat majority was it not , you didn’t just get beat , you got battered , As for flip / flop ( stammer ) he doesn’t even know who’s got a penis or who hasn’t , and you laud him as someone who should run a country , & then there’s rayner , abbot , benn & the endless list of labour perverts who’ve had the whip / suspended from parliament As for flags I guess you’ll be flying your ira/ Hamas flag if the commies get in In !! Makes you wonder why all you country / flag haters are still here , thought you were all leaving after brexit , I remember you didn’t want to live in a bigoted/ racist country , but your still here ?? Ooh look 👀….. the lorry driver is back 😂😂😂👍 Ps you weren’t posting then 😂 Thick as mince the lot of ‘em 🙄😂😂😂
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Post by harlaxtonblue on Jun 15, 2023 10:55:36 GMT
Wow that's a devastating report!! How can you take a report ( committee) led by Harriet Hartman ( a commie ) seriously, she made it obvious from a year before her views , shameful It’s meant to be a independent report , it clearly was not
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Post by yattongas on Jun 15, 2023 11:01:51 GMT
Trying to work out under what name Harlaxtonblue posted under before ? 🤔 OldGas? Tinner? He’s not bloody Nobby is he ? 😂
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