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Post by francegas on Nov 14, 2023 15:26:28 GMT
No what I was implying is Cameron is not the first non standing MP to be bought back to the cabinet. Apologies should have made myself clear. Perfectly clear, but I think you missed Yatton's point. Ahhh probably. Wouldn't be the first time. 😁😁
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Post by yattongas on Nov 14, 2023 15:38:34 GMT
Perfectly clear, but I think you missed Yatton's point. Ahhh probably. Wouldn't be the first time. 😁😁 Cheers mate .
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Post by stuart1974 on Nov 14, 2023 15:50:22 GMT
Perfectly clear, but I think you missed Yatton's point. Ahhh probably. Wouldn't be the first time. 😁😁 I feel your pain.😇
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Post by yattongas on Nov 14, 2023 15:54:46 GMT
Ahhh probably. Wouldn't be the first time. 😁😁 I feel your pain.😇 Oi
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Post by yattongas on Nov 14, 2023 16:41:31 GMT
Loving the Braverman / Sunak love in ! 😂
Comedy gold this Tory party meltdown 😀
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Post by oldie on Nov 14, 2023 18:04:36 GMT
Loving the Braverman / Sunak love in ! 😂 Comedy gold this Tory party meltdown 😀 Maybe the new Minister for Common Sense will step in...😂😂😂
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Post by stuart1974 on Nov 14, 2023 20:09:26 GMT
Loving the Braverman / Sunak love in ! 😂 Comedy gold this Tory party meltdown 😀
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Post by stuart1974 on Nov 15, 2023 8:19:35 GMT
It's a lifestyle choice, Suella must be proud of their ability to choose. 😐 "Citizens Advice helped more than 8,000 people with homelessness issues in October, the highest monthly figure ever recorded. A rising number of Section 21 no-fault evictions for private rental tenants, often led by rising mortgage interest payments for landlords, was listed as a significant contributor. Suella Braverman was sacked as home secretary on Monday, having said earlier in the month that homelessness was a "lifestyle choice". Citizens Advice (CA, formerly Citizens Advice Bureau) is a charitable organisation that provides confidential information and advice to assist people with problems including those related to debt and housing. They record data on people that come to them for help so they are able to be aware of changing trends and issues affecting certain groups more than others. In addition to those facing homelessness in October, almost 20,000 people were given a food bank referral, the third highest month on record, and more than 45,000 received debt help, the most since 2014. More than half of people CA helped with homelessness were private tenants, a reversal of pre-pandemic trends when social tenants were most exposed." news.sky.com/story/record-number-of-people-seeking-homelessness-support-due-to-rising-cost-of-living-13008265
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Post by yattongas on Nov 15, 2023 9:13:10 GMT
It's a lifestyle choice, Suella must be proud of their ability to choose. 😐 "Citizens Advice helped more than 8,000 people with homelessness issues in October, the highest monthly figure ever recorded. A rising number of Section 21 no-fault evictions for private rental tenants, often led by rising mortgage interest payments for landlords, was listed as a significant contributor. Suella Braverman was sacked as home secretary on Monday, having said earlier in the month that homelessness was a "lifestyle choice". Citizens Advice (CA, formerly Citizens Advice Bureau) is a charitable organisation that provides confidential information and advice to assist people with problems including those related to debt and housing. They record data on people that come to them for help so they are able to be aware of changing trends and issues affecting certain groups more than others. In addition to those facing homelessness in October, almost 20,000 people were given a food bank referral, the third highest month on record, and more than 45,000 received debt help, the most since 2014. More than half of people CA helped with homelessness were private tenants, a reversal of pre-pandemic trends when social tenants were most exposed." news.sky.com/story/record-number-of-people-seeking-homelessness-support-due-to-rising-cost-of-living-13008265It’s because they are lazy & feckless 🙄
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Post by supergas on Nov 15, 2023 9:38:35 GMT
Is it? Put any current MP into that role and they spend half their time meeting people for the first time, whereas Cameron already has a lot of those personal connections in place. I actually think that *purely in terms of him doing a good job* it's a genius appointment and will elevate the UK's dealings around the world for however long it lasts... ...in terms of UK politics it will probably be a political nightmare but what else is new...? Bit of a stretch that Supergas. I think most people believe that Cameron's appointment was made to shore up Sunak and the Tory Party in constituencies that don't like him, (Sunak). But Sunak made a complete ass of himself by then appointing Esther McVeigh to the cabinet, without a specific job other than to ensure "common sense"...her and common sense, really! Actually her and anything. Just another stupid appointment by Sunak who is desperately trying to maintain some semblance of support. It's pathetic, it really is. Fair enough, I guess time will tell - the war in Ukraine will enter it's third year in February 2024, the current Israel/Hamas conflict will pass six months in April 2024 and the General Election is likely to be in May... ...my bet is Cameron will be spending most of his time working on those two issues rather than being on the campaign trail for an election they will lose regardless - why would he want to come back to do anything other than actually make a difference where it matters...?
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Post by stuart1974 on Nov 15, 2023 10:12:14 GMT
Bit of a stretch that Supergas. I think most people believe that Cameron's appointment was made to shore up Sunak and the Tory Party in constituencies that don't like him, (Sunak). But Sunak made a complete ass of himself by then appointing Esther McVeigh to the cabinet, without a specific job other than to ensure "common sense"...her and common sense, really! Actually her and anything. Just another stupid appointment by Sunak who is desperately trying to maintain some semblance of support. It's pathetic, it really is. Fair enough, I guess time will tell - the war in Ukraine will enter it's third year in February 2024, the current Israel/Hamas conflict will pass six months in April 2024 and the General Election is likely to be in May... ...my bet is Cameron will be spending most of his time working on those two issues rather than being on the campaign trail for an election they will lose regardless - why would he want to come back to do anything other than actually make a difference where it matters...? Agree on the Cameron decision. Interesting you think the GE will be May. I'm coming round to that myself. There seems to be three obvious dates; May, the Autumn or leaving it to the last minute in January 2025. May 2024 could be seen as too soon, the Autumn clashes with the US elections and January means a Christmas/ winter campaign which is seen as not the best timing. May (or spring in general) is probably the most practical if Sunak is willing to go then. Perhaps a 'give away' Budget then go for it hoping to mitigate the losses.
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Post by stuart1974 on Nov 15, 2023 10:17:05 GMT
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Post by stuart1974 on Nov 15, 2023 10:22:10 GMT
Unanimous decision.
"The ruling was reached unanimously by the five judges.
The published judgment said: "The Supreme Court unanimously dismisses the Home Secretary's appeal, and upholds the Court of Appeal's conclusion that the Rwanda policy is unlawful.
"This is because there are substantial grounds for believing that asylum seekers would face a real risk of ill-treatment by reason of refoulement to their country of origin if they were removed to Rwanda.
"Lord Reed and Lord Lloyd-Jones give a joint judgment with which the other members of the Court agree." "
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Post by yattongas on Nov 15, 2023 10:24:49 GMT
Unanimous decision. "The ruling was reached unanimously by the five judges. The published judgment said: "The Supreme Court unanimously dismisses the Home Secretary's appeal, and upholds the Court of Appeal's conclusion that the Rwanda policy is unlawful. "This is because there are substantial grounds for believing that asylum seekers would face a real risk of ill-treatment by reason of refoulement to their country of origin if they were removed to Rwanda. "Lord Reed and Lord Lloyd-Jones give a joint judgment with which the other members of the Court agree." " Outrageous ! 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧
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Post by yattongas on Nov 15, 2023 10:25:41 GMT
Just had double gammon for breakfast if anyone’s interested.
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Post by oldie on Nov 15, 2023 10:27:40 GMT
Unanimous decision. "The ruling was reached unanimously by the five judges. The published judgment said: "The Supreme Court unanimously dismisses the Home Secretary's appeal, and upholds the Court of Appeal's conclusion that the Rwanda policy is unlawful. "This is because there are substantial grounds for believing that asylum seekers would face a real risk of ill-treatment by reason of refoulement to their country of origin if they were removed to Rwanda. "Lord Reed and Lord Lloyd-Jones give a joint judgment with which the other members of the Court agree." " Outrageous ! 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧 Democracy at work....love it
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Post by oldie on Nov 15, 2023 10:28:17 GMT
Just had double gammon for breakfast if anyone’s interested. I will take mine roasted
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Post by stuart1974 on Nov 15, 2023 10:49:12 GMT
Outrageous ! 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧 Democracy at work....love it Almost worth signing up to the other forum. Almost.
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Post by stuart1974 on Nov 15, 2023 10:52:14 GMT
Unanimous decision. "The ruling was reached unanimously by the five judges. The published judgment said: "The Supreme Court unanimously dismisses the Home Secretary's appeal, and upholds the Court of Appeal's conclusion that the Rwanda policy is unlawful. "This is because there are substantial grounds for believing that asylum seekers would face a real risk of ill-treatment by reason of refoulement to their country of origin if they were removed to Rwanda. "Lord Reed and Lord Lloyd-Jones give a joint judgment with which the other members of the Court agree." " Outrageous ! 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧 No doubt Braverman will campaign on leaving the ECHR. Some talking heads saying that leaving the ECHR wouldn't have affected the decision as there are several other international conventions that we'd have to leave too.
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Post by stuart1974 on Nov 15, 2023 10:53:44 GMT
Inflation halved as the government wanted. Hidden in today's news.
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