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Post by gulfofaden on Jan 11, 2023 5:25:35 GMT
A lot of comment on Loft not being good enough. It wasn’t so long ago he was scoring goals and he’s had only a few minutes back from injury.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Jan 11, 2023 6:05:56 GMT
Its strange how we played much stronger line-ups in the group games than a quarter final Be funny to risk injury in a pointless comp on a dangerous pitch on our better players. Ain’t joking So we going to put out our reserves in League games at home too then?
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Post by thegasareback on Jan 11, 2023 6:20:27 GMT
I know it's just the pizza trophy but why come this close to Wembley and silverware, why give it the big'un in interviews, all to just field a below par team. I really like Barton and will back him for all he has done and is doing for the club but I don't understand why we came this far to just give up. The performance tonight was absolutely embarrassing. Are we too big a club to turn our noses up at a trophy? Plymouth fans wanted it more, their manager wanted it more, their players wanted it more. Exactly, agree with this. Don’t bullsh*t us Joey and say one thing and do another. We’ve had enough managers do that. And then to send Mangs out to do the media.. We’re 12/1 to be in top 6 (bet365) and were 5/2 to reach the final before last night. Bookies rarely get it wrong and with a 66% chance of being favourites if we’d have won (chelt / acc) I’d have gone stronger. 3 points on Saturday and all will be forgotten, lose on Saturday and he looks silly. Joe’s got enough credits in the bank to move on from this but the deception to us gasheads has put a black mark in the book.
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Post by kylegas on Jan 11, 2023 6:52:28 GMT
Finley Collins and Coburn on at half time surely Why? Risk injury? No joke to be made with that 1. In the moment I just wanted us to win the game, hindsight is a little different
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Post by kampucheagas on Jan 11, 2023 7:41:28 GMT
In reality that team should have been strong enough to have competed against a second string Plymouth side who themselves made (8?) changes
For me it simply reinforces my opinion that the players outside the starting 11 are not good enough
We desperately need a commanding centre back, a left back and a dynamic central midfielder
No great turmoil, but JB will be fully aware of where he needs to strengthen after last night
Expecting some key positions to be filled this month, if not this is a very mid table squad
Shame, as we definitely have a top 6 attack!!
UTG
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Post by gasandelectricity on Jan 11, 2023 7:59:56 GMT
Would have liked a final but I’d much rather a promotion push.
Never mind.
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Post by Goose on Jan 11, 2023 8:09:56 GMT
I think if we played a full strength team and lost Azza or Colburn we would now be saying it's only a crap cup we shouldn't have risked them
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Post by percy on Jan 11, 2023 8:18:09 GMT
I get not bringing on the stars. Joey shouldn’t have bigged it up beforehand tho. But for those hailing his approach to this, we had our only 4 fit first team defenders play 90 minutes. How does this work with saving peoples legs for the important games? Oh, he’s built a squad with no defenders. Needs sorting very soon. One more injury and it’s back to Whelan in defence and Lincoln all over again.
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Post by mftc on Jan 11, 2023 8:25:40 GMT
I can't imagine Accrington's pitch being much better?
We had a good chance of getting through if we played the best team.
Instead we are relying on getting some more excellent loan signings to give us a small chance of getting into the play offs.
A bird in the hand as they say.
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Post by stillstanding on Jan 11, 2023 8:26:04 GMT
I get all the points made about not risking players when we are concentrating on the league, but having kept faith with the club throughout this competition it was disappointing to say the least to see the abject performance last night. I realised the game was lost when the team sheet was announced. If the pitch was considered a risk to players then why go ahead with the game? Unless of course JB wanted it out of the way because he sees this competition as an unnecessary distraction? I don't blame JB, he has the bigger picture to consider. I do blame the EFL for messing about with it and devaluing what could otherwise still be a meaningful competition.
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Post by mftc on Jan 11, 2023 8:31:30 GMT
Yeah both him and Coutts and Rossiter too. 39 year old Whelan running in treacle was pretty sad to see. Just stick to the coaching. My interpretation was that he wanted to do coaching only, it was JB that wanted him to sign as a backup player as well. Which is why he initially left at the end of last season and got brought back in later in the summer. I might have imagined this of course but I'm sure I read it somewhere in the summer. He looks way off it every time he puts on his boots this season. Shame as he was still knocking it around well last year. He didn't have a pre season did he? Unfortunately time has taken its toll and the same for Jakkola. He was excellent in his first season but a series of injuries have plagued him. Even jogging onto the pitch after half time he looked laboured. Maybe give them a run out in one of the last few games when nothing is riding on it, so they can both get a good reception when being subbed with a few minutes to go. For me maybe it's better to give Lawrence and Ward a few matches in late April so they get more first team exposure.
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Post by herbertblake on Jan 11, 2023 8:48:38 GMT
Accrington Stanley heavy pitch on Saturday we dare not risk Collins Coburn Coutts or Finley save them until pitches get better we don't want them injured on poor pitches and Stanley always beat us anyway.
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Post by Marshy on Jan 11, 2023 8:56:13 GMT
Accrington Stanley heavy pitch on Saturday we dare not risk Collins Coburn Coutts or Finley save them until pitches get better we don't want them injured on poor pitches and Stanley always beat us anyway. I agree no point taking any risks last night, it’s gone forget it - move on.
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Post by Quarters on Jan 11, 2023 9:08:10 GMT
Accrington Stanley heavy pitch on Saturday we dare not risk Collins Coburn Coutts or Finley save them until pitches get better we don't want them injured on poor pitches and Stanley always beat us anyway. I agree no point taking any risks last night, it’s gone forget it - move on. The post match stated that some on the bench were carrying some knocks and did not want to risk making them worse. So we hope they are 100% come Sat.
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Jan 11, 2023 9:26:59 GMT
Well done JAB for bringing the fans together so now we can all concentrate on the league, and no fanbase divisions of boycotting..
Every cloud and all that..
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Post by badengas on Jan 11, 2023 9:34:42 GMT
I did like the Muff fans rendition of "he's got a pineapple on his head" though.
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Post by Dirt Dogg on Jan 11, 2023 9:45:41 GMT
I agree no point taking any risks last night, it’s gone forget it - move on. The post match stated that some on the bench were carrying some knocks and did not want to risk making them worse. So we hope they are 100% come Sat. Sounded to me like Mangan just made up some b*llocks on the spot as an excuse.
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Post by Claremont Gas on Jan 11, 2023 10:06:08 GMT
I know it's just the pizza trophy but why come this close to Wembley and silverware, why give it the big'un in interviews, all to just field a below par team. I really like Barton and will back him for all he has done and is doing for the club but I don't understand why we came this far to just give up. The performance tonight was absolutely embarrassing. Are we too big a club to turn our noses up at a trophy? Plymouth fans wanted it more, their manager wanted it more, their players wanted it more. Exactly, agree with this. Don’t bullsh*t us Joey and say one thing and do another. We’ve had enough managers do that. And then to send Mangs out to do the media.. We’re 12/1 to be in top 6 (bet365) and were 5/2 to reach the final before last night. Bookies rarely get it wrong and with a 66% chance of being favourites if we’d have won (chelt / acc) I’d have gone stronger. 3 points on Saturday and all will be forgotten, lose on Saturday and he looks silly. Joe’s got enough credits in the bank to move on from this but the deception to us gasheads has put a black mark in the book. Agree with both of these posts ... so disappointing and wish i hadn't given up the time and money on the back of his war cry to be totally let down. I do get the bit about resting players but Accrington also played last night and won so they have momentum .... I'm going to miss Saturday as have a University visit with one of my twins - fingers crossed we get three points and the memory of last nights shambles starts to erode.
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Post by pudseygas on Jan 11, 2023 10:15:19 GMT
Not read through the whole thread so this mag have been covered but what has happened to the pitch? I know it's rained a lot but even still it shouldn't be as bad as it is. Gone from one of the best pitch in the league to the worst. Can understand why JB wanted to protect a lot of the starters tbh
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Post by SleepyGas on Jan 11, 2023 10:23:24 GMT
I did like the Muff fans rendition of "he's got a pineapple on his head" though. Who at?
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