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Post by GasAttacK on Jan 11, 2023 10:26:15 GMT
Biggest concern is obviously the defence. With the exception of Gibson that was our first choice back 4 or 5.
It's no exaggeration to say Plymouth could have had 7 or 8 such was the quality of the chances they created. Most worrying is how easy it was to create those chances. Yet again, simple balls forward cut our defence wide open.
I'm finding it hard to make a case for any of our defenders. Are any L1 standard? Where would we be in the table without Collins & Coburn?
We'll need to sign 3 or 4 this month just to finish top half in my opinion.
Whelan should not be playing now. Jaakkola is not good enough to be our #2. Evans continues to disappoint. Marquis and Loft failed to make a positive impact.
The only players to come out of that with any credit are McCormick, who looks to be finding his form and Saunders, who was easily our best attacking player after coming on in the second half.
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Post by clockendgas on Jan 11, 2023 10:28:40 GMT
The only plus side last night is that at least we won't have to go half mental trying to get Ticketmaster working for a final ticket.
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Post by percy on Jan 11, 2023 11:08:20 GMT
Biggest concern is obviously the defence. With the exception of Gibson that was our first choice back 4 or 5. It's no exaggeration to say Plymouth could have had 7 or 8 such was the quality of the chances they created. Most worrying is how easy it was to create those chances. Yet again, simple balls forward cut our defence wide open. I'm finding it hard to make a case for any of our defenders. Are any L1 standard? Where would we be in the table without Collins & Coburn? We'll need to sign 3 or 4 this month just to finish top half in my opinion. Whelan should not be playing now. Jaakkola is not good enough to be our #2. Evans continues to disappoint. Marquis and Loft failed to make a positive impact. The only players to come out of that with any credit are McCormick, who looks to be finding his form and Saunders, who was easily our best attacking player after coming on in the second half. I would say it’s not all due to the defenders. Finley and Rossiter in central midfield would not have let Plymouth have so many easy chances. Yes we need 4 defenders. But we need better coverage for Rossiter especially.
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Post by xenongas on Jan 11, 2023 11:10:15 GMT
Have we not got any other players to put on the bench if the ones on there were not worth risking?
I assumed Collins and Coburn were there to save/win the game if needed. Might as well have put some teenagers on as Plymouth did towards the end.
Ah well, no big deal although Wembley would have been nice. We do seem to be stuck in a bit of a rut atm though. Hopefully a signing or two can inject a bit of competitive energy into the squad.
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Post by strads1983 on Jan 11, 2023 12:38:20 GMT
Have to say, Matete 28 for muff absolutely dominated the game last night. Exactly what we need, a really mobile cdm. He was different class.
It is really clear that the conditions dictated the type of team JB put out and on a heavy pitch. Sensible decision but as some elude to, highlights where he needs to strengthen.
3 points Saturday, no problem!
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Post by RD on Jan 11, 2023 12:45:15 GMT
I did like the Muff fans rendition of "he's got a pineapple on his head" though. Who at? The bloke with a pineapple on his head, duh...
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Post by baggins on Jan 11, 2023 12:50:18 GMT
The bloke with a pineapple on his head, duh... You mean Mr Pineapple Head?
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Post by eric on Jan 11, 2023 12:52:18 GMT
I did like the Muff fans rendition of "he's got a pineapple on his head" though. Who at? Jaakola
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Post by peterhooper57 on Jan 11, 2023 13:08:35 GMT
Annsi Jaakkola gave me the impression of a out field player who had drawn the short straw to go in goal, what has happened to our dethroned number one ? definitely now not good enough to be even our number 2. And poor old Glenn Whelan his legs and quick thinking have gone, old treacle legs has been a fantastic player in the past, but from now on should stick to coaching. I have no explanation why Thomas and Beefy played like a couple of primary school kids who had just been introduced to the great game; similarly why Loft and Marquis decided to trundle around as if they had had a skin full of beer the night before and turned up to play in a division 6 Sunday morning league match. Could go on, but will stop there, and hope a professional squad turns up on Saturday to represent the quarters. Prepared to put in down to just a very, very bad night. Lets hope so. Utg
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Post by Marshy on Jan 11, 2023 13:13:07 GMT
Annsi Jaakkola gave me the impression of a out field player who had drawn the short straw to go in goal, what has happened to our dethroned number one ? definitely now not good enough to be even our number 2. And poor old Glenn Whelan his legs and quick thinking have gone, old treacle legs has been a fantastic player in the past, but from now on should stick to coaching. I have no explanation why Thomas and Beefy played like a couple of primary school kids who had just been introduced to the great game; similarly why Loft and Marquis decided to trundle around as if they had had a skin full of beer the night before and turned up to play in a division 6 Sunday morning league match. Could go on, but will stop there, and hope a professional squad turns up on Saturday to represent the quarters. Prepared to put in down to just a very, very bad night. Lets hope so. Utg Yeah but apart from all that we were okay 👍
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Post by SleepyGas on Jan 11, 2023 14:21:13 GMT
Ahh! I wonder if big Jaak is getting his head shaved?
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Post by gasaholic on Jan 11, 2023 14:35:29 GMT
I dont agree with a lot of posts being made about Joey Bartons team selection being right because he wanted to protect certain players from injury.
I say this because as far as I am concerened its the Managers job to select the best team in any competition to win that game.
Yes we are on the edge of the playoffs but answer me this.
If you were a betting man ,which I am not, which of these scenarios would be the most likely to happen , a winning bet on either us reaching and winning the playoffs or winning the chance to play at Wembley. I know which is more likely to get you a return for your money.
Barton has not only gone back on his word, he has been scathing on his view of the cup compitition then said "well we have come this far we may as well win it".
The team he selected was second string. He not only denied the club of a possible windfall from a Wembley final but also denying the supporters of a memorable day out, whatever the result! I am not going to lower my expectation as J.B has done that for me
I get my coat
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Post by baggins on Jan 11, 2023 14:40:44 GMT
We're out, of what we all think is a crap competition anyway, and no injuries. So let's just get it on for the League.
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Post by kampucheagas on Jan 11, 2023 14:46:17 GMT
We're out, of what we all think is a crap competition anyway, and no injuries. So let's just get it on for the League. Didn’t Rossiter get injured playing in this competition? I think it’s the mixed messages that gets supporters One minute we are not interested Then we are Then we aren’t I’d prefer it if we just put out our under 14’s in the group stages, take the fine and get out. OR go for it from the start and stay with a strong starting 11 UTG
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Post by baggins on Jan 11, 2023 14:48:31 GMT
We're out, of what we all think is a crap competition anyway, and no injuries. So let's just get it on for the League. Didn’t Rossiter get injured playing in this competition? I think it’s the mixed messages that gets supporters One minute we are not interested Then we are Then we aren’t I’d prefer it if we just put out our under 14’s in the group stages, take the fine and get out. OR go for it from the start and stay with a strong starting 11 UTG Under 14's? Not sure that's allowed but no bother, let's just head for a top 10 finish, that'll do me.
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Post by dudelebowski on Jan 11, 2023 14:49:47 GMT
Collins, Finley & Coburn all played against Colchester AWAY in this competition, on a Tuesday night in the round of 32.
It just doesn’t make any sense😂🤦🏻
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Post by lastminutewinner on Jan 11, 2023 15:02:19 GMT
Everyone should have stayed away and saved yourselves the expense and 'heartache'. We now have a Premier league academy manager recommending the use of B sides as their top young talents arent getting enough exposure to senior football. Im sure more will follow and put pressure on the powers that be, and we all know they will win that battle.. trainingground.guru/articles/english-football-must-consider-b-teams-underwood
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Post by eric on Jan 11, 2023 15:34:26 GMT
Ahh! I wonder if big Jaak is getting his head shaved? They haven’t found a barber tall enough to reach !!!
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Post by oliverhelmet on Jan 11, 2023 15:42:54 GMT
I see Accrington only made 3 changes from their last game and 1 of those was the keeper.We shall see Saturday if the JB gamble pays off with 3 very important points on the line.
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Post by Dirt Dogg on Jan 11, 2023 15:47:46 GMT
Barton is playing the long game, drain Plymouth out midweek against a weakened Gas side, they then struggle in their promotion cruncher on Saturday whilst a rested Rovers then win at our bogey ground, Accrington. Few months later we clinch a play-off place and beat a demoralised Plymouth side who have bottled autos in the play offs.
The man is a genius!
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