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Post by tbonegas on Jan 29, 2023 10:10:15 GMT
Jordan Rossiter is a big miss with his protection and screening of the defence. Sometimes he can go under the radar, but his tackles, interceptions and blocks etc are vital to a better defensive solidity. Exactly what I said on another thread We have not played well since he got injured. There is nobody else in the squad to do his job in this squad.
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Post by eric on Jan 29, 2023 10:10:54 GMT
We need the experience of Tom Lockyer in our defence. Played consistently well in the Championship but I feel he would relish a return to the Mem. Did you put Thatchers on your cornflakes this morning whilst wearing blue tinted spectacles? I’m sure he’d think about a return one day as he approaches retirement but at the moment he’s starting every game in the championship for a side who are sat just outside the playoffs on goal difference and is a regular in the Wales squad.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2023 10:44:28 GMT
Posted this over on the player ratings page in response to a comment but it’s better here, I agree with the original post. Barton needs to take a good look at what he’s doing tactically and team selection wise. We haven’t had a settled defence since the derby game (a knee jerk reaction I think from JB). But also we’ve tried 3 at the back, 4 at the back and generally been constantly messing about with it instead of giving something the chance to stick.
Barton brought someone in that he knows after Bond left. I forget his name now.
However I think a few other things are important, it’s how we defend and set up as team. At set pieces we do a mixture of mainly zonal with a bit of man for man, personally I think zonal creates problems and gives players the run on you, we conceded 2 more from setpieces yesterday. Also we’ve seen individual errors that you just can’t legislate for from players and keepers.
I think that of the defenders they aren’t all rubbish individually. Gibson and Gibbons look like the better defenders in the squad to me and have made very few mistakes I can remember after the derby game. Hoole, Connolly and Gordon seem to be the ones who are targeted from a physical aspect by the opposition. I think Hoole has got better defensively as the season has gone on and has had to toughen up quickly, but I think one on one defending needs to improve. Connolly has had a disappointing season IMO, quite a few mistakes and seems to be easily caught with a ball over the top. I really think we should bring in an experienced centre half over him. Gordon struggles to defend the back post and is too nice, I can see why he’s been dropped. Anderson shouldn’t be anywhere near a fullback spot either.
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Post by The Equaliser on Jan 29, 2023 11:18:25 GMT
Locks played for Luton yesterday, why on earth would he drop a division? Because he would prefer living around Bristol or South Wales rather than Milton Keynes and he is still a gashead. Would be a step down but with change of manager at Luton he might not be first choice centre back. Tom moved on from us to play higher up the pyramid and get in the Wales squad, presently he is playing weekly for Luton and has a shot at the Premiership. His heart has always belonged to doing as well as he can at professional football not playing near home.
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Post by keygas on Jan 29, 2023 11:29:07 GMT
Perhaps instead of getting a fee for Harvey Saunders from Tranmere, it may have been better to do an exchange deal to bring Tom Davies back, always thought he was a decent defender when he was on loan with us.
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Post by gasandelectricity on Jan 29, 2023 11:49:50 GMT
Perhaps instead of getting a fee for Harvey Saunders from Tranmere, it may have been better to do an exchange deal to bring Tom Davies back, always thought he was a decent defender when he was on loan with us. Would love TD back but he's a bit of a Kilgour style player. Don't think JB would be interested. That's before the injury risk as well.
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Post by adrian301 on Jan 29, 2023 13:50:47 GMT
Remember this is a manager who thought we would be defensively stronger with Glen Whelas as CH, against Lincoln. We conceded 6, with Kilgour left on the bench!
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Post by bidefordgas on Jan 29, 2023 14:10:12 GMT
We need the experience of Tom Lockyer in our defence. Played consistently well in the Championship but I feel he would relish a return to the Mem. Why on earth would TL relish a return to league one gas. His team is in 7th place in the Championship with games in hand on all six clubs above them and his is a first team regular at Luton. Know what I would do in his position and would not wish a return to the Mem in preference to what he enjoys now.
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Post by eric on Jan 29, 2023 14:20:47 GMT
We need the experience of Tom Lockyer in our defence. Played consistently well in the Championship but I feel he would relish a return to the Mem. Why on earth would TL relish a return to league one gas. His team is in 7th place in the Championship with games in hand on all six clubs above them and his is a first team regular at Luton. Know what I would do in his position and would not wish a return to the Mem in preference to what he enjoys now. Totally agree. He’s in the prime years of his career and has a chance to reach the Prem. Tom doesn’t strike me as a mercenary type but I still doubt he’d ‘relish’ the £5k - £10k per week pay cut for dropping back to mid table league one!!!!
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Post by gashead1981 on Jan 29, 2023 15:18:22 GMT
Jordan Rossiter is a big miss with his protection and screening of the defence. Sometimes he can go under the radar, but his tackles, interceptions and blocks etc are vital to a better defensive solidity. Exactly what I’ve been saying. It’s no coincidence that our purple patch came with Rossiter in the middle. It allowed Finlay loads of freedom in the middle to either run at defences, commit to tackles early and knock passes around knowing he had a foil behind him. Coutts doesn’t gives us anywhere near that kind of security and balance.
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Post by fintanstack on Jan 29, 2023 18:21:38 GMT
None of the present coaching staff, Andy Mangen, Danny Ventre, Glen Whelan, were defenders. I'm not sure when Danny Ventre joined the club, as I can't recall that was ever announced by the club? Danny Venture-d. Nothing gained.
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Post by stuart1974 on Jan 29, 2023 18:25:43 GMT
None of the present coaching staff, Andy Mangen, Danny Ventre, Glen Whelan, were defenders. I'm not sure when Danny Ventre joined the club, as I can't recall that was ever announced by the club? Danny Venture-d. Nothing gained. Maybe, but does he have the stomach for it. 😃
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Post by gaelgas on Jan 29, 2023 22:45:07 GMT
Locks played for Luton yesterday, why on earth would he drop a division? Because he would prefer living around Bristol or South Wales rather than Milton Keynes and he is still a gashead. Would be a step down but with change of manager at Luton he might not be first choice centre back. Why would he live in Milton Keynes if he's playing for Luton?
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Post by Qatar Gas on Jan 30, 2023 4:41:44 GMT
Why on earth would TL relish a return to league one gas. His team is in 7th place in the Championship with games in hand on all six clubs above them and his is a first team regular at Luton. Know what I would do in his position and would not wish a return to the Mem in preference to what he enjoys now. Totally agree. He’s in the prime years of his career and has a chance to reach the Prem. Tom doesn’t strike me as a mercenary type but I still doubt he’d ‘relish’ the £5k - £10k per week pay cut for dropping back to mid table league one!!!! Some people on here get a little carried away thinking former players would rush to come back to us just because they support us. If we were all professional footballers and in Toms position, 90% of us would rather stay put than drop down, even if its to a club we love.
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Post by yetigas on Jan 30, 2023 7:33:11 GMT
Because he would prefer living around Bristol or South Wales rather than Milton Keynes and he is still a gashead. Would be a step down but with change of manager at Luton he might not be first choice centre back. Why would he live in Milton Keynes if he's playing for Luton? Have you ever been to Luton?
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Post by bidefordgas on Jan 30, 2023 8:15:14 GMT
Locks played for Luton yesterday, why on earth would he drop a division? Because he would prefer living around Bristol or South Wales rather than Milton Keynes and he is still a gashead. Would be a step down but with change of manager at Luton he might not be first choice centre back. They have had a change of manager and he is still first choice.
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Post by herbertblake on Jan 30, 2023 8:27:20 GMT
Why would he live in Milton Keynes if he's playing for Luton? Have you ever been to Luton? He watched Rovers earlier this season at Mk Dons and revealed he lives in Milton Keynes. Fact
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Post by socrates on Jan 30, 2023 8:43:12 GMT
I’m pretty sure the times we’ve looked defensively solid this season is mostly when Rossiter is in front of the back line. Belshaw certainly isn’t the problem , we need a tough midfield general to replace coutts who’s legs are going first and foremost. Then we still need a commanding centre half like Taylor was and a left back. If we can get those three in then a top half finish is doable. And get Belshaw back in.
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Post by purdownpoacher1 on Jan 30, 2023 11:35:58 GMT
Have you ever been to Luton? He watched Rovers earlier this season at Mk Dons and revealed he lives in Milton Keynes. Fact I heard that too 👍💙
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Post by eric on Jan 30, 2023 14:05:09 GMT
He watched Rovers earlier this season at Mk Dons and revealed he lives in Milton Keynes. Fact I heard that too 👍💙 Same. Not that it makes it any less absurd to think TL would drop to mid table BRFC when he’s playing every week for a team sitting 7th in the championship, in with the chance of being in the prem next season, with a national team squad place to retain as well as taking a £5k - £10k drop in weekly pay 🤣
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