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Post by percy on Jan 28, 2023 23:37:28 GMT
Performances against the unfashionable teams this season have been an embarrassment
Not that he’ll take any blame.
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Post by bidefordgas on Jan 29, 2023 8:21:30 GMT
Defence has been a shambles since Kevin Bond left.
Has he been replaced? If he has questions need to be asked.
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Post by Topper Gas on Jan 29, 2023 8:36:36 GMT
Ignoring the Derby thrashing the defence was OK during, October, November and early December?
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Post by percy on Jan 29, 2023 8:42:13 GMT
We’ve let in 50 goals.
6 against Lincoln, 5 morecambe, 4 Exeter and lost to Accrington twice and even forest green.
Happy with mid table but some of these defensive performances have been nothing short of embarrassing.
Not picking on any players. It’s how we set up, defend as a team (or don’t) and a seeming lack of any tactics!
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Post by woolavingtonpirate on Jan 29, 2023 8:58:00 GMT
We struggle against the quick ball over the top. This is both a midfield and defence issue. We are not dominant enough with the first header and secondly we are too slow to react to second balls, Coutts and Finley are not quick enough in the middle, this is why we slow the game down often, in order to win the game needs to be dictated at a pace that suits us. We miss a defensive midfielder and a dominant left footed central defender.
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Post by woolavingtonpirate on Jan 29, 2023 8:59:31 GMT
We’ve let in 50 goals. 6 against Lincoln, 5 morecambe, 4 Exeter and lost to Accrington twice and even forest green. Happy with mid table but some of these defensive performances have been nothing short of embarrassing. Not picking on any players. It’s how we set up, defend as a team (or don’t) and a seeming lack of any tactics! Those are all teams that are good at attacking the second ball. Says everything about where our issues are. |
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Post by gulfofaden on Jan 29, 2023 9:12:32 GMT
Perhaps this is why I can’t work out why we keep losing. I’ve only ever seen one ball. If there’s a second I’ve never seen it so perhaps the team have the same issue.
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Post by gasandelectricity on Jan 29, 2023 9:16:04 GMT
Whilst we have issues with defence I think a lot of it has to do with the fact that once we go a goal down, perhaps two, especially after half time we come back out trying to get ourselves back in the game which leaves ourselves exposed to conceding goals.
I think we got away with such a gung ho approach in league two a lot more.
I love it, because it’s a never say die attitude, but it means we concede a lot on occasions.
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Post by Topper Gas on Jan 29, 2023 9:18:45 GMT
None of the present coaching staff, Andy Mangen, Danny Ventre, Glen Whelan, were defenders.
I'm not sure when Danny Ventre joined the club, as I can't recall that was ever announced by the club?
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Post by Topper Gas on Jan 29, 2023 9:21:50 GMT
Whilst we have issues with defence I think a lot of it has to do with the fact that once we go a goal down, perhaps two, especially after half time we come back out trying to get ourselves back in the game which leaves ourselves exposed to conceding goals. I think we got away with such a gung ho approach in league two a lot more. I love it, because it’s a never say die attitude, but it means we concede a lot on occasions. Against Exeter we still conceded twice after going 3-2 up? |
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Post by wertongas on Jan 29, 2023 9:23:37 GMT
He does seem to struggle with bringing in defenders experienced at league 1level, OK to bring youngsters in in league 2 but we need players with more nouse at this level.
But the other big problem is he tries to get the defenders to play the ball along the ground and wing it. Defenders are there to defend, it is their job to mark attacking players , clear their lines and defend the goal, leave the job of going forward to the attacking midfield and wingers. Garner tried to convert defenders in to ball carrying players and look where that got us.If you push your defenders forward it leaves gaps at the back.
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Post by herbertblake on Jan 29, 2023 9:31:15 GMT
We need the experience of Tom Lockyer in our defence. Played consistently well in the Championship but I feel he would relish a return to the Mem.
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Post by Topper Gas on Jan 29, 2023 9:32:14 GMT
JB clearly likes to play ball playing defenders hence why Kilgour was shown the door, JB's increased attendances by playing attractive, winning, football so not sure we want defenders just hoofing it again as GC side, whilst effective, had the opposite effect on attendances.
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Post by Topper Gas on Jan 29, 2023 9:33:48 GMT
We need the experience of Tom Lockyer in our defence. Played consistently well in the Championship but I feel he would relish a return to the Mem. Locks played for Luton yesterday, why on earth would he drop a division? |
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Post by herbertblake on Jan 29, 2023 9:37:22 GMT
We need the experience of Tom Lockyer in our defence. Played consistently well in the Championship but I feel he would relish a return to the Mem. Locks played for Luton yesterday, why on earth would he drop a division? Because he would prefer living around Bristol or South Wales rather than Milton Keynes and he is still a gashead. Would be a step down but with change of manager at Luton he might not be first choice centre back. |
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Post by Qatar Gas on Jan 29, 2023 9:38:46 GMT
We need the experience of Tom Lockyer in our defence. Played consistently well in the Championship but I feel he would relish a return to the Mem. Not sure why he would want to drop down a division when he is playing most weeks in the championship. |
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Post by clockendgas on Jan 29, 2023 9:44:51 GMT
After his recent court cases I'd have thought he be fully up to date on his defence 😉
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Post by eastgas on Jan 29, 2023 9:51:03 GMT
The defence is clearly struggling at the moment. Gibson seems to be a big miss atm. I dont place all the blame at the defenders feet, they have no protection in front of them from a quality specialist defensive midfielder. In regards to ball playing defenders, I like this, apart from a few games this season I have enjoyed watching this style of play, but I think their inexperience in the game is showing in their inability to put the ball in row z sometimes. We can see they are all good players back there but it’s also evident they need to quickly learn the darker side of defending. They all seem to nice.
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Post by pirate on Jan 29, 2023 9:51:46 GMT
Jordan Rossiter is a big miss with his protection and screening of the defence. Sometimes he can go under the radar, but his tackles, interceptions and blocks etc are vital to a better defensive solidity.
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Post by Qatar Gas on Jan 29, 2023 9:56:25 GMT
Jordan Rossiter is a big miss with his protection and screening of the defence. Sometimes he can go under the radar, but his tackles, interceptions and blocks etc are vital to a better defensive solidity. He has been a huge loss. Our best midfielder this season. |
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