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Post by stuart1974 on Mar 11, 2023 23:33:08 GMT
The BBC is funded via the Licence Fee, the public are the employers. The government sets the amount. The licence fee which is only enforced by the government? Educate yourself, the BBC is only principally funded through licence fees the rest comes from the taxes of people who go to work. "The BBC is principally funded through the licence fee paid by UK households. In 2021/22 this generated £3.8bn. In addition, the BBC’s commercial operations, such as BBC Studios, provide supplementary income. In 2021/22, the BBC made £1.7bn through its commercial operations. The BBC World Service also receives some funding from the Foreign, Commonwealth and Development Office (FCDO)." lordslibrary.parliament.uk/future-funding-of-the-bbc-lords-committee-report/ |
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Post by yattongas on Mar 11, 2023 23:36:10 GMT
The BBC is funded via the Licence Fee, the public are the employers. The government sets the amount. The licence fee which is only enforced by the government? Educate yourself, the BBC is only principally funded through licence fees the rest comes from the taxes of people who go to work. Educate yourself 😂 |
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Post by oldmarket65 on Mar 11, 2023 23:38:23 GMT
The BBC is funded via the Licence Fee, the public are the employers. The government sets the amount. The licence fee which is only enforced by the government? Educate yourself, the BBC is only principally funded through licence fees the rest comes from the taxes of people who go to work. I notice you don't mention the grants from the tax payers ( government) that go to FAT CATS who make billions in profit. I wonder why the torys allow this ? |
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Post by nailseamark on Mar 12, 2023 0:07:59 GMT
I did see an article recently that said Bristol was the most accepting city of immigrants in the entire uk. So this doesn’t suprise me.
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Post by CrispPusher on Mar 12, 2023 0:35:17 GMT
The licence fee which is only enforced by the government? Educate yourself, the BBC is only principally funded through licence fees the rest comes from the taxes of people who go to work. I notice you don't mention the grants from the tax payers ( government) that go to FAT CATS who make billions in profit. I wonder why the torys allow this ? I'm politically agnostic, disliking all politicians equally and haven't voted in any election since I was at university; although I vehemently despise multi millionaire tax avoiders such as Mr. Lineker (or fat cats as you so eloquently name them). Why should celebrities be able to avoid paying taxes and remain venerated by the public? It sickens me, it really does. |
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Post by percy on Mar 12, 2023 1:30:47 GMT
I disagree with many of my employer's decisions, however, if I slagged them off on social media I'd expect to be disciplined, especially if I compared my bosses with the most evil regime in history; Lineker and his cronies are happy enough to take tax payer money from the government they should abide by the same standards the rest of us are expected to. The problem is champagne socialists think they're above the normal working person. I don’t think you understand who he works for. Or anything. |
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Post by percy on Mar 12, 2023 1:33:22 GMT
I notice you don't mention the grants from the tax payers ( government) that go to FAT CATS who make billions in profit. I wonder why the torys allow this ? I'm politically agnostic, disliking all politicians equally and haven't voted in any election since I was at university; although I vehemently despise multi millionaire tax avoiders such as Mr. Lineker (or fat cats as you so eloquently name them). Why should celebrities be able to avoid paying taxes and remain venerated by the public? It sickens me, it really does. what has that got to do with literally anything this is about. My god. |
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Post by oldie on Mar 12, 2023 5:05:47 GMT
I disagree with many of my employer's decisions, however, if I slagged them off on social media I'd expect to be disciplined, especially if I compared my bosses with the most evil regime in history; Lineker and his cronies are happy enough to take tax payer money from the government they should abide by the same standards the rest of us are expected to. The problem is champagne socialists think they're above the normal working person. He did not |
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Mar 12, 2023 6:36:06 GMT
I notice you don't mention the grants from the tax payers ( government) that go to FAT CATS who make billions in profit. I wonder why the torys allow this ? I'm politically agnostic, disliking all politicians equally and haven't voted in any election since I was at university; although I vehemently despise multi millionaire tax avoiders such as Mr. Lineker (or fat cats as you so eloquently name them). Why should celebrities be able to avoid paying taxes and remain venerated by the public? It sickens me, it really does. This sort of thing happens because people do not vote to remove those enabling it. |
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Post by warehamgas on Mar 12, 2023 8:43:08 GMT
Politics? Freedom of speech? It would not take much observing Gary Lineker over the years to realise that the guy is a humanitarian. He cares for and speaks out for fellow human beings and has often been drawn into such issues when they cross boundaries into football. Take Ukraine? Take the stories of him giving a home to refugees? This is not about politics or freedom of speech first or foremost, although those issue have been drawn into the whole affair, first and foremost this is about one human being standing up and speaking out for the welfare of others. The day that care for fellow human beings is wrong is the day everyone should hang their heads in shame.Yes your last comment is spot on, and of course GL, as you say, is a humanitarian and he does speak out. And I quite like him as someone who does a good job. Watching him do his job shows the difference between someone doing his job well and someone doing a similar job. But…. And I think he has every right to tweet what he liked. But unfortunately when he added “30s Germany” to the tweet he crossed the line imo. Keep it as an unpleasant and nasty policy and he’d have been ok. The moment you liken our government to ‘30s Germany’, or other unpleasant terms ‘holocaust’ or ‘Nazi germany’ (which by implication he did) then you cross the line. And that’s the same as anyone. Introduce those terms and you take a perfectly acceptable view to an exaggerated pov. Imo, of course. No one in government in this country is like that and for the implication to be voiced is just wrong. Not only should the BBC, as it stands be impartial, it must be seen to be impartial. Too much hypocrisy floating about here. GL against our government policy yet happy to go to Qatar with their appalling human rights, Shearer happy to see Newcastle do well now with their Saudi supporters. I bet others could come up with other examples. The world has become a place full of hypocrisy and counter argument. Hey ho. UTG! |
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Post by bluegas on Mar 12, 2023 9:05:10 GMT
Absolutely Wareham, it is the dragging in of the Nazis and the Holocaust that went over the top, across the red line.
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Mar 12, 2023 9:15:58 GMT
Absolutely Wareham, it is the dragging in of the Nazis and the Holocaust that went over the top, across the red line. Which was done by others, not GL. He didn't even actually disagree with the Gov policy, he actually highlighted the type of language being used by the Gov. But don't let that get in the way of your view. |
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Mar 12, 2023 9:25:02 GMT
I'm afraid the BBC v Lineker-gate is nothing other than a contractual dispute.
Everyone has opinions on the subject matter and how opinion is conveyed..... unfortunately this important subject has been sideswept because of media subterfuge on Lineker's tweet, on a matter you can't resolve within how many characters Twitter allows. It's far more complicated than this.
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Post by miltongas on Mar 12, 2023 9:30:00 GMT
Absolutely Wareham, it is the dragging in of the Nazis and the Holocaust that went over the top, across the red line. But that isn’t what he said. He didn’t mention Nazis or The Holocaust. What he highlighted was the language parallels. The divisive language being used today does mirror the language of Germany. The ‘them’ and ‘us’ terminology. The ‘threats to our culture’ the idea of a ‘war’ between one side and another are all phrases that have been used by the current government and were used in 1930’s Germany. |
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Post by bluegas on Mar 12, 2023 9:30:57 GMT
Absolutely Wareham, it is the dragging in of the Nazis and the Holocaust that went over the top, across the red line. Which was done by others, not GL. He didn't even actually disagree with the Gov policy, he actually highlighted the type of language being used by the Gov. But don't let that get in the way of your view. He said "1930s Germany". What else could he mean by inference?  |
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Post by Topper Gas on Mar 12, 2023 9:37:45 GMT
Absolutely Wareham, it is the dragging in of the Nazis and the Holocaust that went over the top, across the red line. Which was done by others, not GL. He didn't even actually disagree with the Gov policy, he actually highlighted the type of language being used by the Gov. But don't let that get in the way of your view. Thought he suggested that it was an "immeasurably cruel policy" that sounds to me like he's disagreeing with it? |
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Post by Topper Gas on Mar 12, 2023 9:40:06 GMT
Full tweet:
"This is just an immeasurably cruel policy directed at the most vulnerable people in language that is not dissimilar to that used by Germany in the '30s, and I'm out of order?"
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Post by stuart1974 on Mar 12, 2023 9:40:26 GMT
Which was done by others, not GL. He didn't even actually disagree with the Gov policy, he actually highlighted the type of language being used by the Gov. But don't let that get in the way of your view. He said "1930s Germany". What else could he mean by inference? The Holocaust was until much later for a start. It's the slow eradication of rights, the 'othering' of human beings and the blaming of a policy failing because of 'the blob' (civil service), "leftie lawyers" and essentially saying that if you are against me you are against the hard working people of this country. Looking for scapegoats when it's the government’s own mistakes. That's where a comparison can be made, if a little clunky and it's probably having an effect of diverting attention away from the actual issues. Don't fall for the headlines as it's making us look away from the real issue which isn't a technical breach of social media guidelines (as per a former BBC DG this morning). |
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Post by yattongas on Mar 12, 2023 9:55:13 GMT
He said "1930s Germany". What else could he mean by inference? The Holocaust was until much later for a start. It's the slow eradication of rights, the 'othering' of human beings and the blaming of a policy failing because of 'the blob' (civil service), "leftie lawyers" and essentially saying that if you are against me you are against the hard working people of this country. Looking for scapegoats when it's the government’s own mistakes. That's where a comparison can be made, if a little clunky and it's probably having an effect of diverting attention away from the actual issues. Don't fall for the headlines as it's making us look away from the real issue which isn't a technical breach of social media guidelines (as per a former BBC DG this morning). Also saying it’s what the public wants and it’s patriotic and if you don’t agree you’re unpatriotic .No it’s what Tory/ukip voters want ( in the main ) . It needed calling out or the creep towards fascism carries on . |
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Post by gasheadbatesy on Mar 12, 2023 10:00:24 GMT
So we should continue letting in 40,000 ILLEGAL immigrants into our country every year and rising year by year.
Us tax payers are paying for these “intruders” to live a better life than me, im in full time work, paying my way, trying to support my family while another boat full of immigrants, usually a boat full of blokes in there 20’s, no wife or children on board, and usually not running away from war.
These people (not all) are here for a free ride, and I have had enough of hearing stories of these people coming to our country and intimidating our people, abusing our laws, and I have to pay for that.
When they get to France they are in a safe place, but get nothing.
They come here and get everything.
Why wouldn’t you make that trip across the channel.
We’re all talking about freedom of speech, that’s my view, and so many other peoples view, sadly not many are brave enough to say it, because it’s now a minority view.
Gary Lineker is a 2 faced tit.
Knows what his contract is, and is constantly pushing his views and making his job untenable. But the publicity the guys getting will line his pocket a bit more.
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