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Post by supergas on Jan 31, 2024 8:36:10 GMT
Dr Aodhán Breathnach, a Consultant Global Health Microbiologist at UKHSA and a Consultant Medical Microbiologist at St George’s University Hospitals, recently published a study which found masks in hospitals had little impact on Covid transmission in the omicron wave. Spring 23. Probably not expert enough😐 ....potentially a valuable source if you've read the study and quoted the findings correctly. They also admitted: Dr Aodhán Breathnach is way more of an expert than me. But the study can't prove the mask mandate affected the results, didn't measure compliance with the policy and couldn't determine staff infection rates - and preventing staff infection is one of the key drivers of this kind of decision... |
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Post by aghast on Jan 31, 2024 17:19:21 GMT
I'm not denying a tiny percentage of the population have, unfortunately, experienced problems due to the vaccine while the remaining millions are just fine. These things happen, sadly. I'm intrigued still though about the fraud that has been imposed on us, and the reasons behind it. Several accusations but nothing clear, and no motive given. The idea that the BBC would enter into a pact with the powers that be to support a massive confidence trick to boost the profits of Big Pharma seems ludicrous. Beyond ludicrous actually. It's not ludicrous. It's a scandal. Driven by greedy people in high positions. The media is bought and paid for. Everything you see on the news is what they want you to see. People are reluctant to want the truth and I get it. It's horrible. I suppose if we really believed that pharmaceutical manufacturers wanted us all to be fit and healthy, without illness, then it makes sense... but they don't! Otherwise they'd cease. Who else invests in these companies? I do and I reckon others on here do too. We want profit. You are heading into la-la.land territory now. As per the unconnected moon landings theory, do you seriously, seriously believe that hundreds of thousands if not millions of people working in the NHS, pharmaceutical industries, the BBc, ITV, the press and peripheral industries have either participated in or somehow been unaware of what would be the biggest scandal of all time? For almost four years? And all that has come out is a miniscule number of theorists like yourself? Do you ever stop to think how implausible if not impossible that is? Or do you ignore it and just keep plugging away, using information you and anyone else can take from the internet? |
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Post by oldie on Jan 31, 2024 19:29:56 GMT
It's not ludicrous. It's a scandal. Driven by greedy people in high positions. The media is bought and paid for. Everything you see on the news is what they want you to see. People are reluctant to want the truth and I get it. It's horrible. I suppose if we really believed that pharmaceutical manufacturers wanted us all to be fit and healthy, without illness, then it makes sense... but they don't! Otherwise they'd cease. Who else invests in these companies? I do and I reckon others on here do too. We want profit. You are heading into la-la.land territory now. As per the unconnected moon landings theory, do you seriously, seriously believe that hundreds of thousands if not millions of people working in the NHS, pharmaceutical industries, the BBc, ITV, the press and peripheral industries have either participated in or somehow been unaware of what would be the biggest scandal of all time? For almost four years? And all that has come out is a miniscule number of theorists like yourself? Do you ever stop to think how implausible if not impossible that is? Or do you ignore it and just keep plugging away, using information you and anyone else can take from the internet? The latter. Clearly some health issues there |
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Post by gashead79 on Feb 27, 2024 7:49:05 GMT
It's not ludicrous. It's a scandal. Driven by greedy people in high positions. The media is bought and paid for. Everything you see on the news is what they want you to see. People are reluctant to want the truth and I get it. It's horrible. I suppose if we really believed that pharmaceutical manufacturers wanted us all to be fit and healthy, without illness, then it makes sense... but they don't! Otherwise they'd cease. Who else invests in these companies? I do and I reckon others on here do too. We want profit. You are heading into la-la.land territory now. As per the unconnected moon landings theory, do you seriously, seriously believe that hundreds of thousands if not millions of people working in the NHS, pharmaceutical industries, the BBc, ITV, the press and peripheral industries have either participated in or somehow been unaware of what would be the biggest scandal of all time? For almost four years? And all that has come out is a miniscule number of theorists like yourself? Do you ever stop to think how implausible if not impossible that is? Or do you ignore it and just keep plugging away, using information you and anyone else can take from the internet? Thanks. I'm not sure why anything I've said there could be considered 'lala'? Do we really believe all we see, read, hear from the news? Seriously? You mention moon landings as an attempt to steer your reply down the lala route. That's child's play. As for the agencies participating. Yeah, I do. Especially the pharmaceuticals. Manufacturing and releasing those meds was a race where lots of candidates tried to cash in. Likewise the ppe contractors, the hand-wash manufacturers, etc etc. I was involved in it and seen the margins that companies were trying to justify. Theorists? I see a different angle to you and it stacks up imo. Court cases quietly going on, people getting paid to keep quiet, the likes of Mone hiding, track n trace money down the toilet. I'm not using benefits of hindsight, my 'theory' has been consistent throughout as I smelt a rat from the first stupid videos of Chinese people dropping in the street, and the repeat clips of the super hospitals being built in China. Pure propaganda and shock which works like WMDs did.. Sadly, there is only info on the Internet to share? In real life, as disclosed before my family didn't comply with any of the restrictions(where we didn't have to). I have/had immediate family in nhs and care, so heard from them. We aren't jabbed. I still don't know anybody who passed from/with the virus. I have zero regrets whilst a few that I speak to wish they hadn't have played along and especially got the jab. Perhaps we tend to live in our own echo chambers a bit since I'll no doubt get the same response from the 4 of you on here! For balance, I do have in laws who were playing along, and thought me and the Wife were silly for refusing at the time. Now they understand though and we reflect on those few years. Anyone see the court hearing from Queensland yesterday? Unlawful and against Human Rights... its coming. |
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Post by DrFaustus on Feb 27, 2024 17:43:28 GMT
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Post by popuppirate on Feb 27, 2024 18:42:49 GMT
Yikes, a billionaire egomaniac COVID denying anti-vaxxer. I wonder where his interests lie |
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Post by oldie on Feb 27, 2024 22:41:22 GMT
Yikes, a billionaire egomaniac COVID denying anti-vaxxer. I wonder where his interests lie 54 people. Is that right? How many kids killed in Gaza? Some people, honestly Desperate or what |
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Post by francegas on Feb 28, 2024 2:35:14 GMT
Yikes, a billionaire egomaniac COVID denying anti-vaxxer. I wonder where his interests lie 54 people. Is that right? How many kids killed in Gaza? Some people, honestly Desperate or what No idea ... ask Hamas as they seem to be the ones releasing figures. How many were killed in Iraq? |
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Post by oldie on Feb 28, 2024 2:57:24 GMT
54 people. Is that right? How many kids killed in Gaza? Some people, honestly Desperate or what No idea ... ask Hamas as they seem to be the ones releasing figures. How many were killed in Iraq? Iraq? As I recall something like 100,000 civilians died as a result of our military invasion. Why? |
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Post by DrFaustus on Feb 28, 2024 9:12:47 GMT
Yikes, a billionaire egomaniac COVID denying anti-vaxxer. I wonder where his interests lie Don't shoot the messenger. Just sharing the ruling, that's all. |
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Post by popuppirate on Feb 28, 2024 9:19:22 GMT
Yikes, a billionaire egomaniac COVID denying anti-vaxxer. I wonder where his interests lie Don't shoot the messenger. Just sharing the ruling, that's all. Not at all, apologies if it came across that way. Palmer is an Australian mash up of Trump and Johnson and I'd expect everything he puts his money behind would cause me to bite against. |
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Post by supergas on Feb 28, 2024 10:38:13 GMT
Don't shoot the messenger. Just sharing the ruling, that's all. Not at all, apologies if it came across that way. Palmer is an Australian mash up of Trump and Johnson and I'd expect everything he puts his money behind would cause me to bite against. ...the worst thing about Palmer (and it's a long list) is that he was against both key plans various Australian states had during the pandemic. I can see how someone would oppose * either* vaccine mandates * or* border closures. For him to argue against both at the height of a global pandemic just means he was willing to see more people than otherwise would have died from the virus... |
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Post by popuppirate on Feb 28, 2024 11:11:16 GMT
Not at all, apologies if it came across that way. Palmer is an Australian mash up of Trump and Johnson and I'd expect everything he puts his money behind would cause me to bite against. ...the worst thing about Palmer (and it's a long list) is that he was against both key plans various Australian states had during the pandemic. I can see how someone would oppose * either* vaccine mandates * or* border closures. For him to argue against both at the height of a global pandemic just means he was willing to see more people than otherwise would have die from the virus... Yep, where would you even start with his rap sheet. I particularly liked his funding an untested COVID 'cure' and wanted the tablets stamped with his name on. Then moved on to COVID denial comparing death numbers to influenza. As for the supreme court ruling, I'm sure we'll hear that referenced forever without end. The fact that Palmer admits to law suits being his hobby, and that he's said to spend vast sums on them to the point that opposition back down, tells me that this isn't likely to be a precedent to be taken seriously. Not to mention of course, that scientists, universities, health organisations, governments etc are all supposedly corruptible and complicit to conspiracy, whereas an Australian supreme court is not. |
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Post by supergas on Feb 28, 2024 11:19:04 GMT
...the worst thing about Palmer (and it's a long list) is that he was against both key plans various Australian states had during the pandemic. I can see how someone would oppose * either* vaccine mandates * or* border closures. For him to argue against both at the height of a global pandemic just means he was willing to see more people than otherwise would have die from the virus... Yep, where would you even start with his rap sheet. I particularly liked his funding an untested COVID 'cure' and wanted the tablets stamped with his name on. Then moved on to COVID denial comparing death numbers to influenza. As for the supreme court ruling, I'm sure we'll hear that referenced forever without end. The fact that Palmer admits to law suits being his hobby, and that he's said to spend vast sums on them to the point that opposition back down, tells me that this isn't likely to be a precedent to be taken seriously. Not to mention of course, that scientists, universities, health organisations, governments etc are all supposedly corruptible and complicit to corruption whereas an Australian supreme court is not. The only thing I disagree with you over is when you lumped him in with both Trump and Johnson. He's in the same category as Trump in so many ways but completely different to Johnson in so many others... |
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Post by popuppirate on Feb 28, 2024 11:34:53 GMT
Yep, where would you even start with his rap sheet. I particularly liked his funding an untested COVID 'cure' and wanted the tablets stamped with his name on. Then moved on to COVID denial comparing death numbers to influenza. As for the supreme court ruling, I'm sure we'll hear that referenced forever without end. The fact that Palmer admits to law suits being his hobby, and that he's said to spend vast sums on them to the point that opposition back down, tells me that this isn't likely to be a precedent to be taken seriously. Not to mention of course, that scientists, universities, health organisations, governments etc are all supposedly corruptible and complicit to corruption whereas an Australian supreme court is not. The only thing I disagree with you over is when you lumped him in with both Trump and Johnson. He's in the same category as Trump in so many ways but completely different to Johnson in so many others... Yeah maybe it was a lazy comparison. But rich, right wing, lying egomaniacs deserve to be lumped together as far as I'm concerned |
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Post by oldie on Feb 28, 2024 20:42:06 GMT
The only thing I disagree with you over is when you lumped him in with both Trump and Johnson. He's in the same category as Trump in so many ways but completely different to Johnson in so many others... Yeah maybe it was a lazy comparison. But rich, right wing, lying egomaniacs deserve to be lumped together as far as I'm concerned Totally Popup, totally |
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Post by gashead79 on Feb 28, 2024 20:45:32 GMT
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Post by gashead79 on Feb 28, 2024 20:47:29 GMT
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Post by gashead79 on Feb 28, 2024 20:52:39 GMT
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Post by aghast on Feb 28, 2024 22:04:40 GMT
I know the AZ vaccine wasn't ideal and has been withdrawn, effectively.
But like all the others it was fast tracked in response to what was seen as the worst pandemic for a century.
Was that introduction in response to a call for help from the world's governments and medical authorities, and introduced with the best safeguards in the limited time available and which saved multiple lives, or was it a cynical, dangerous money-making exercise by Big Pharma, and an irresponsible act which has caused multiple unnecessary deaths?
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