Covid week 2 Gashead79 thread

Most people I speak to or know. Although as things continue it looks like there's a delay in some of the side effects of the jab. The list of associated side effects was huge so its no surprise really. Headlines say things like "Scientists baffled" etc, then we get given all of the reasons for Ill health which include things that people can relate to.

Pharma clearly made money from the jabs. That isn't in question is it?
The marketing campaign was huge, we had almost daily images of politicians, royalty, stars, smiling behind masks to get jabs.
Sadly we don't get the same levels of coverage for the many people who are now poorly, albeit there are registered charities and a few politicians are attempting to be heard.

Was there a pandemic? Yes, but I believe it was fabricated. The global bit gets me since I'm fortunate enough to speak to people globally, and not everyone was as engrossed as us in UK. Perhaps we have money to spend on such things..
Was it threatening millions of lives? It was certainly portrayed that way yes. The data gave us a mortality rate of 0.6(don't quote me but it was something like this) and the most at risk of serious illness were the elderly, people with uhc, the obese. The jab programme initially targeted those at higher risk and that felt like it made sense at the time.
As I covered ages ago, I was disappointed but not surprised that there was not any advice on health and hygiene, other than to wash your hands whilst singing happy birthday!
Whilst the UK and other big spenders were ringfencing the meds,(many of which were wasted due to poor logistics and use by dates) the poorer nations did what they often do and got on with things. On that point, registered deaths of/with/from(whatever terminology they decided to use) appeared to be higher across the wealthy nations compared to poorer ones-maybe the herd immunity that a few 'experts' were citing early on(these guys were quietened down fsr) worked for the nations without access to jabs or healthcare??

Should we have engaged...?
That question is binary and dramatic but it's not that simple is it?
You are implying that the jabs have saved lives from covid. That is exactly what we are told, the data may back that up, lockdown was ended etc etc etc.

I see countries that have an extremely low jab rate who didn't lose as many lives.
Countries/people within nations which didn't get constant news on it(some might call it propaganda or brainwashing).
I see data being altered and manipulated. Stories of death certs being annotated.
Lockdown being hailed as some sort of success when I see it as a breach of human rights and totally damaging.

I notice a few posters after your questions insinuating I am deluded, with Yatton I think - showing pity and other such stuff..
Guys/girls, just remember that this is a chatboard. Outside of this, I probably live a similar life to you perfect souls. For all we know my health, wellbeing, success, future, family, past, might be better or worse than yours too🤷‍♂️

Fire at will.

Three years on from the first jabs and I'm still waiting to read any authoritative source confirming side effects have been statistically significant.

And not just "well my mate had the jab, goes to the gym and he's been really poorly for ages".

I suppose it could be worse than we are being told, and the hundreds of thousands of scientists, pharmacists, doctors and healthcare workers in dozens of countries are keeping quiet for fear of the knock on the door in the dead of night.

Yeah, but that predated COVID vaccines 🤭

So a few problems with this part - "...most people I speak to or know..." Don't take this personally but I doubt your friendship group is - in statistics terms - a good sample size. You can add to that that you're not measuring responses. So you will remember the two or three people who moan about their health, ignoring 40-50 other people you have interacted with who have not entered into a health discussion with you for any reason. Then we also have no clue as to what is actually causing health problems people are discussing with you. Were they healthy pre-covid/pre-vaccination? Have they had any other significant lifestyle changes? Do they watch a lot of conspiracy videos on YouTube...?


Yes pharmaceutical companies made money from the jab. If they didn't risk time and money creating a vaccine then globally we might still be at risk of the virus surging/mutating and claiming lives many years after the initial pandemic. The vaccines were profitable because the virus was so widespread, if you only make a few cents profit per dose but there are hundreds of billions of doses, then you make billions in profit.



There are others on this forum who live in other countries. Trust me, it was global. The mortality rates change depending on where, who and how they measure them. I've read about Infection Fatality Rates of well over 1% in developed countries (New York that was running at 1.4% for example). Data continues to evolve and any statistics published up to now are still subject to serious scientific revision. There was also plenty of health and hygiene advice at the time...



Why were poorer nations less exposed? Have a think about it. As the virus spread it was mostly via air-travel, so initially from China to other developed countries. It was only a matter of weeks (at most a few months) before the world realised the problem and most movement was stopped. So whilst the developed nations (receiving hundreds of thousands of travellers a day) had thousands of infected people arriving, less developed nations had far fewer travellers and therefore far less exposure.



Death certificates are frequently changed for a wide variety of reasons. One of the biggest mistakes was how covid was recorded/tracked in the early phases, at one point in the UK you could have recorded a positive covid test, walked out in front of a bus/knocked down/killed, and covid would have been recorded on your death certificate. If you have good evidence of data being altered for negative reasons, don't share it here - report it to the covid inquiry or the police.


As you have mentioned, many of us here probably agree on a lot more than we disagree on. I was here in WA during covid and the lockdowns were damaging and un-necessary at local and inter-state/international levels. Politicians who made those decisions paid the price at the ballot box and will continue to do so for a while. But then we cycle to the question of how far should they let it spread before they are then accused of actively allowing people to die? It's a tricky question and one we will only find a full answer to at the next global pandemic when I'm sure much of the medical advice will be different and many of the politicians will evaluate it in a different way.

I’m just a small town near Taunton

Do you patronise everyone, or just online?

As for TLDR, I had to look up the meaning as am 60 years old and don't use textspeak.

The link was posted as to me it was interesting. Sorry if that offends any want to be teachers.

I think one or two are scrubbing around, for reasons known only to themselves and a marginalised group of others with the same mindset, trying to find isolated cases of unfortunate (but extremely rare) side effects.

I'm not sure what it achieves, what point they are trying to prove, or how it can in any way help anybody.

If that's aimed at me, you couldn't be further from the truth.

15 months on and a question could be:
Did the UK authorities pressure Proboards to censor Covid content?
Zuckerberg might agree..

Taken from news articles but I see the creation of echo chambers, silencing of debate(countered with premeditated lines around science or "misinformation"), the Mandela effect in full flow by removing opinions not fitting the narrative.

I don't use FB btw, but fair to assume the same pressure was across all public chat boards.

Mark Zuckerberg: Covid censorship was wrong and I wish I’d fought it.
Facebook founder claims White House ‘repeatedly pressured’ his social media giant to censor posts

www.google.com/amp/s/www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/2024/8/27/did-bidens-white-house-pressure-mark-zuckerberg-to-censor-covid-content