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Post by yattongas on Nov 6, 2023 7:43:05 GMT
Oooh an opinion article from the Spectator 🙄 😂 Weren’t they very anti lockdowns ? |
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Post by oldie on Nov 6, 2023 7:53:12 GMT
Still no empirical evidence. I noted this from the Hart Group "An urgent evaluation of the evidence base for safe and effective (non-vaccine) medicines to treat and prevent illness from SARS-CoV-2 and its variants, and more research where considered necessary." So, no evidence, just a call for more research. Translated as a "fact" |
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Post by yattongas on Nov 6, 2023 8:08:59 GMT
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Post by stuart1974 on Nov 6, 2023 8:25:16 GMT
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Post by oldie on Nov 6, 2023 10:31:37 GMT
I hope that is a joke and not indicative of a certain mindset. |
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Post by supergas on Nov 7, 2023 10:47:12 GMT
We know from the nuclear bombings at Hiroshima and Nagasaki that cancer due to the most powerful carcinogen of all (a large dose of ionizing radiation) takes at least two years to begin showing up in the fastest form (leukemias), while most other cancers don’t show up for around 10 years. Vaccines were introduced to the general population less than three years ago - even if the vaccines were as powerful as being exposed to a nuclear bomb going off, it would be only now that we might be beginning to see the start of a cancer signal for leukemias, and nowhere near close to any other form of cancer... Why would these vaccines be more prone to causing cancer than any other vaccine? ...no reason at all. I was debunking the 'science' (and I use that term *very* loosely) that claims they do... |
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Post by yattongas on Nov 7, 2023 12:54:04 GMT
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Post by gashead79 on Nov 9, 2023 14:00:08 GMT
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Post by yattongas on Nov 9, 2023 14:04:23 GMT
Behind a pay wall . But those anti lockdown loons in the Telegraph are claiming it was defective are they ? Let’s wait and see if they win the case . 🙄 |
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Post by gashead79 on Nov 9, 2023 14:16:55 GMT
Behind a pay wall . But those anti lockdown loons in the Telegraph are claiming it was defective are they ? Let’s wait and see if they win the case . 🙄 Fair enough. It's interesting though. From the article-AstraZeneca issued press releases following clinical trials saying the vaccine – known as Vaxzevria – was between 62 per cent and 90 per cent effective at preventing symptomatic Covid-19 depending on dosages, with an average of 70 per cent. The legal claim states: “In fact, the absolute risk reduction concerning Covid-19 prevention was only 1.2 per cent.” These stats and figures from manufacturers are what we/consumers rely on. It's not great to realise that there's a load of smoke n mirrors tbh. |
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Post by yattongas on Nov 9, 2023 14:29:05 GMT
Behind a pay wall . But those anti lockdown loons in the Telegraph are claiming it was defective are they ? Let’s wait and see if they win the case . 🙄 Fair enough. It's interesting though. From the article-AstraZeneca issued press releases following clinical trials saying the vaccine – known as Vaxzevria – was between 62 per cent and 90 per cent effective at preventing symptomatic Covid-19 depending on dosages, with an average of 70 per cent. The legal claim states: “In fact, the absolute risk reduction concerning Covid-19 prevention was only 1.2 per cent.” These stats and figures from manufacturers are what we/consumers rely on. It's not great to realise that there's a load of smoke n mirrors tbh. And when they don’t win their claim you’ll give up ? Nah, didn’t think so, you’ll just move on to something else . |
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Post by gashead79 on Nov 9, 2023 15:48:26 GMT
Fair enough. It's interesting though. From the article-AstraZeneca issued press releases following clinical trials saying the vaccine – known as Vaxzevria – was between 62 per cent and 90 per cent effective at preventing symptomatic Covid-19 depending on dosages, with an average of 70 per cent. The legal claim states: “In fact, the absolute risk reduction concerning Covid-19 prevention was only 1.2 per cent.” These stats and figures from manufacturers are what we/consumers rely on. It's not great to realise that there's a load of smoke n mirrors tbh. And when they don’t win their claim you’ll give up ? Nah, didn’t think so, you’ll just move on to something else . The outcome doesn't matter to me. I've made my choices regardless. I don't brag either so🤷♂️ |
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Post by oldie on Nov 9, 2023 16:00:24 GMT
Fair enough. It's interesting though. From the article-AstraZeneca issued press releases following clinical trials saying the vaccine – known as Vaxzevria – was between 62 per cent and 90 per cent effective at preventing symptomatic Covid-19 depending on dosages, with an average of 70 per cent. The legal claim states: “In fact, the absolute risk reduction concerning Covid-19 prevention was only 1.2 per cent.” These stats and figures from manufacturers are what we/consumers rely on. It's not great to realise that there's a load of smoke n mirrors tbh. And when they don’t win their claim you’ll give up ? Nah, didn’t think so, you’ll just move on to something else . It's not a new story. The risk of Thrombosis was identified in Sept 2021. The risk was 1:100,000 dependent upon age group. Those of with enough of our wits and cognitive abilities still intact knew this and made an informed decision. Mine was to have the vaccine for all the reasons previously articulated. Interesting that this case, which is basically ambulance chasing, is being covered in the Telegraph and loony outlets like GB News. Others are hanging onto it what it appears as desperation to justify their personal decisions and actions. It's over, nobody cares. |
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Post by gashead79 on Nov 9, 2023 16:48:48 GMT
And when they don’t win their claim you’ll give up ? Nah, didn’t think so, you’ll just move on to something else . It's not a new story. The risk of Thrombosis was identified in Sept 2021. The risk was 1:100,000 dependent upon age group. Those of with enough of our wits and cognitive abilities still intact knew this and made an informed decision. Mine was to have the vaccine for all the reasons previously articulated. Interesting that this case, which is basically ambulance chasing, is being covered in the Telegraph and loony outlets like GB News. Others are hanging onto it what it appears as desperation to justify their personal decisions and actions. It's over, nobody cares. It wouldn't be over if you were one of the thousands of complainants! In case you missed it, and in relation to your inadvertent insult of others:AstraZeneca issued press releases following clinical trials saying the vaccine – known as Vaxzevria – was between 62 per cent and 90 per cent effective at preventing symptomatic Covid-19 depending on dosages, with an average of 70 per cent. The legal claim states: “In fact, the absolute risk reduction concerning Covid-19 prevention was only 1.2 per cent.” This sort of claim means that the "Safe and Effective" messaging that convinced people to line up, might have been misguiding..1.2% is some way below 90% for effectiveness and the vaccine injured will be presenting for years to come I reckon. This type of stuff was blocked and labelled back in the day remember. 1 in 100k might have put some people off. That's if you even trust those stats.. |
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Post by yattongas on Nov 9, 2023 17:59:38 GMT
It's not a new story. The risk of Thrombosis was identified in Sept 2021. The risk was 1:100,000 dependent upon age group. Those of with enough of our wits and cognitive abilities still intact knew this and made an informed decision. Mine was to have the vaccine for all the reasons previously articulated. Interesting that this case, which is basically ambulance chasing, is being covered in the Telegraph and loony outlets like GB News. Others are hanging onto it what it appears as desperation to justify their personal decisions and actions. It's over, nobody cares. It wouldn't be over if you were one of the thousands of complainants! In case you missed it, and in relation to your inadvertent insult of others:AstraZeneca issued press releases following clinical trials saying the vaccine – known as Vaxzevria – was between 62 per cent and 90 per cent effective at preventing symptomatic Covid-19 depending on dosages, with an average of 70 per cent. The legal claim states: “In fact, the absolute risk reduction concerning Covid-19 prevention was only 1.2 per cent.” This sort of claim means that the "Safe and Effective" messaging that convinced people to line up, might have been misguiding..1.2% is some way below 90% for effectiveness and the vaccine injured will be presenting for years to come I reckon. This type of stuff was blocked and labelled back in the day remember. 1 in 100k might have put some people off. That's if you even trust those stats.. But you’re not one of the thousands of complainants because you didn’t take the jab . Thought you said before you were only worried about your nearest & dearest ? |
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Post by oldie on Nov 9, 2023 19:24:01 GMT
It wouldn't be over if you were one of the thousands of complainants! In case you missed it, and in relation to your inadvertent insult of others:AstraZeneca issued press releases following clinical trials saying the vaccine – known as Vaxzevria – was between 62 per cent and 90 per cent effective at preventing symptomatic Covid-19 depending on dosages, with an average of 70 per cent. The legal claim states: “In fact, the absolute risk reduction concerning Covid-19 prevention was only 1.2 per cent.” This sort of claim means that the "Safe and Effective" messaging that convinced people to line up, might have been misguiding..1.2% is some way below 90% for effectiveness and the vaccine injured will be presenting for years to come I reckon. This type of stuff was blocked and labelled back in the day remember. 1 in 100k might have put some people off. That's if you even trust those stats.. But you’re not one of the thousands of complainants because you didn’t take the jab . Thought you said before you were only worried about your nearest & dearest ? Precisely |
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Post by gashead79 on Nov 9, 2023 21:30:56 GMT
It wouldn't be over if you were one of the thousands of complainants! In case you missed it, and in relation to your inadvertent insult of others:AstraZeneca issued press releases following clinical trials saying the vaccine – known as Vaxzevria – was between 62 per cent and 90 per cent effective at preventing symptomatic Covid-19 depending on dosages, with an average of 70 per cent. The legal claim states: “In fact, the absolute risk reduction concerning Covid-19 prevention was only 1.2 per cent.” This sort of claim means that the "Safe and Effective" messaging that convinced people to line up, might have been misguiding..1.2% is some way below 90% for effectiveness and the vaccine injured will be presenting for years to come I reckon. This type of stuff was blocked and labelled back in the day remember. 1 in 100k might have put some people off. That's if you even trust those stats.. But you’re not one of the thousands of complainants because you didn’t take the jab . Thought you said before you were only worried about your nearest & dearest ? I don't mean to come across as patronising, but what on earth are you on about? Oldie made a claim, I simply suggested that the claim would be false if he was a complainant. How does that passage of debate circle to me? Try to argue without the temptation to score points on me! In relation to your comment though. Like I said previously, we have people in the family who are experiencing issues now. I didn't take that drug and am satisfied with my decision. Hopefully those who did are also satisfied but I believe a growing number are regretting it. |
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Post by gashead79 on Nov 9, 2023 21:31:08 GMT
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Post by yattongas on Nov 9, 2023 21:42:19 GMT
But you’re not one of the thousands of complainants because you didn’t take the jab . Thought you said before you were only worried about your nearest & dearest ? I don't mean to come across as patronising, but what on earth are you on about? Oldie made a claim, I simply suggested that the claim would be false if he was a complainant. How does that passage of debate circle to me? Try to argue without the temptation to score points on me! In relation to your comment though. Like I said previously, we have people in the family who are experiencing issues now. I didn't take that drug and am satisfied with my decision. Hopefully those who did are also satisfied but I believe a growing number are regretting it. Sorry you found it difficult to understand. |
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Post by gashead79 on Nov 10, 2023 7:44:01 GMT
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