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Post by curlywurly on Jun 27, 2023 20:20:39 GMT
the jailbird bob Newton. Could see us signing him now but would have never happened under the Dunfords when we were a family club Don't let him behind the wheel.
Honestly, until Stephan Payne, I can't remember a striker that tried less for us than Bob Newton.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2023 20:41:08 GMT
the jailbird bob Newton. Could see us signing him now but would have never happened under the Dunfords when we were a family club Don't let him behind the wheel.
Honestly, until Stephan Payne, I can't remember a striker that tried less for us than Bob Newton.
he was a pioneer in skin tight tops. They only went as far as his chest before giving up
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Post by curlywurly on Jun 27, 2023 21:19:15 GMT
Don't let him behind the wheel.
Honestly, until Stephan Payne, I can't remember a striker that tried less for us than Bob Newton.
he was a pioneer in skin tight tops. They only went as far as his chest before giving up Barrel chested is the kind way of putting it.
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Post by warehamgas on Jun 27, 2023 21:41:34 GMT
I guess we had to sign him didn’t we? Can’t have a pre-season without the drama of any impending court actions, it wouldn’t seem like a pre-season without one. Blimey, what is it 3 consecutive Summers now? 😉 Still, at least I’m being told everything’s more professional nowadays.
Must be more in court in the last 3 years than the previous 137 years. (I know that’s probably an exaggeration btw!)
UTG!
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Post by Tilly's Thighs on Jun 28, 2023 0:11:13 GMT
I guess we had to sign him didn’t we? Can’t have a pre-season without the drama of any impending court actions, it wouldn’t seem like a pre-season without one. Blimey, what is it 3 consecutive Summers now? 😉 Still, at least I’m being told everything’s more professional nowadays. Must be more in court in the last 3 years than the previous 137 years. (I know that’s probably an exaggeration btw!) UTG! I’m not keen on the signing, however, I’m not sure the club can be accused of not doing everything by the book with the procedures on this one. I don’t really see any lack of professionalism.
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Post by lastminutewinner on Jun 28, 2023 1:12:28 GMT
I guess we had to sign him didn’t we? Can’t have a pre-season without the drama of any impending court actions, it wouldn’t seem like a pre-season without one. Blimey, what is it 3 consecutive Summers now? 😉 Still, at least I’m being told everything’s more professional nowadays. Must be more in court in the last 3 years than the previous 137 years. (I know that’s probably an exaggeration btw!) UTG! But when has us being soft ever done us any favours? I like this new edge to the team. When was the last time we signed one of the best players in the division from the previous season.. Never. Maybe we will get to the Championship again before I die. Not many youngsters will experience this. If we hurt any soft part time 'fans' along the way then so be it.
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Post by puregas on Jun 28, 2023 3:44:42 GMT
I’m not sure it’s ‘soft’ to find violence against women abhorrent, lastminutewinner, more to do with being a decent person and having a conscience.
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Post by warehamgas on Jun 28, 2023 8:17:51 GMT
I guess we had to sign him didn’t we? Can’t have a pre-season without the drama of any impending court actions, it wouldn’t seem like a pre-season without one. Blimey, what is it 3 consecutive Summers now? 😉 Still, at least I’m being told everything’s more professional nowadays. Must be more in court in the last 3 years than the previous 137 years. (I know that’s probably an exaggeration btw!) UTG! But when has us being soft ever done us any favours? I like this new edge to the team. When was the last time we signed one of the best players in the division from the previous season.. Never. Maybe we will get to the Championship again before I die. Not many youngsters will experience this. If we hurt any soft part time 'fans' along the way then so be it. Not so sure having a ‘new edge to the team’ requires someone to show violence towards women. And I don’t believe you think that not making the signing would make us ‘soft.’ Plenty of teams reach the Championship, usually 3 per season without having a ‘new edge.’ I can think of a few Rovers teams who did. Granted, not in the last 30 years. UTG!
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Post by warehamgas on Jun 28, 2023 8:25:54 GMT
I guess we had to sign him didn’t we? Can’t have a pre-season without the drama of any impending court actions, it wouldn’t seem like a pre-season without one. Blimey, what is it 3 consecutive Summers now? 😉 Still, at least I’m being told everything’s more professional nowadays. Must be more in court in the last 3 years than the previous 137 years. (I know that’s probably an exaggeration btw!) UTG! I’m not keen on the signing, however, I’m not sure the club can be accused of not doing everything by the book with the procedures on this one. I don’t really see any lack of professionalism. It was a tongue in cheek comment Tilly. And nowhere did I say it wasn’t professional. I’m sure they’ve done ‘everything by the book’. But 3 Summers of impending court actions, never thought I’d see that. UTG!
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Post by lastminutewinner on Jun 28, 2023 8:45:50 GMT
I’m not sure it’s ‘soft’ to find violence against women abhorrent, lastminutewinner, more to do with being a decent person and having a conscience. I meant soft as in not going for certain players for fear of upsetting the fanbase, not the actual offence itself which of course is totally wrong. Thats twice now with Wael bringing in Barton and now Brown and the first didnt turn out too bad
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Post by Kingswood Polak on Jun 28, 2023 9:11:51 GMT
Well Joey barton probably has the best knowledge of dealing with this issue then! Different characters, Jevani has admitted his guilt and his partner has also left him. I hope he gets the help and guidance he needs as he is a nice bloke without the drink and substances inside of him. I take it you met and got to know him K ? How many of the people we all know are very different when drink is involved, as a younger man, I’d agree with you but as an adult, responsibility must be taken and if you know the drink makes you daft then stop or cut back.
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Post by oldie on Jun 28, 2023 9:34:47 GMT
Different characters, Jevani has admitted his guilt and his partner has also left him. I hope he gets the help and guidance he needs as he is a nice bloke without the drink and substances inside of him. I take it you met and got to know him K ? How many of the people we all know are very different when drink is involved, as a younger man, I’d agree with you but as an adult, responsibility must be taken and if you know the drink makes you daft then stop or cut back. I thought that cider made me daft until friends told me that until I had a pint I sounded really stupid....(Tilly will attest)
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2023 10:20:23 GMT
Different characters, Jevani has admitted his guilt and his partner has also left him. I hope he gets the help and guidance he needs as he is a nice bloke without the drink and substances inside of him. I take it you met and got to know him K ? How many of the people we all know are very different when drink is involved, as a younger man, I’d agree with you but as an adult, responsibility must be taken and if you know the drink makes you daft then stop or cut back. Met him a couple of times, he always has a smile on his face. At first I was shocked when I had heard that he had been arrested, then when those a lot closer started to tell some stories I looked back to see that he has had issues throughout his career. Hopefully he has learnt his lesson and he leaves no more victims behind.
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Post by socrates on Jun 28, 2023 12:18:19 GMT
The style of football being played certainly contributes to an enjoyable matchday experience. Let's not go over all this again, but statements like that are just not true Tilly. Between January and the end of last season our form was diabolical, we hardly scored. When evaluating performance it's important to look at the facts. Agreed. I thought we were dreadful up until Christmas in our promotion season and then clicked and played some of the best football I’ve ever seen us play. Then last season we were fairly decent until January when Barton changed the tactics to a very narrow 433 and had us playing very central , we had no width and no pace , we were so predictable and we were awful to watch and the results were dreadful too. I think if the season had gone on a few games longer we’d have gone down. Overal Barton has done well but over the 2 and a bit seasons he’s had we’ve only played amazing football for half a season , the rest has been ok or dire.
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Post by putterbishopston on Jun 28, 2023 14:16:40 GMT
Poor decision to bring in Brown, but thats the way Rovers roll these days, our Owner and CEO clearly do not care who we employ.
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Post by warehamgas on Jun 28, 2023 14:39:11 GMT
Let's not go over all this again, but statements like that are just not true Tilly. Between January and the end of last season our form was diabolical, we hardly scored. When evaluating performance it's important to look at the facts. Agreed. I thought we were dreadful up until Christmas in our promotion season and then clicked and played some of the best football I’ve ever seen us play. Then last season we were fairly decent until January when Barton changed the tactics to a very narrow 433 and had us playing very central , we had no width and no pace , we were so predictable and we were awful to watch and the results were dreadful too. I think if the season had gone on a few games longer we’d have gone down. Overal Barton has done well but over the 2 and a bit seasons he’s had we’ve only played amazing football for half a season , the rest has been ok or dire. Exactly. 2022 was great after a forgettable 2021. Followed by a fairly poor 2023 so far. Whilst never the complete story the results back up the idea of a poor run since Christmas. No getting away from that. UTG!
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Post by Beer Baron on Jun 28, 2023 15:25:41 GMT
I guess we had to sign him didn’t we? Can’t have a pre-season without the drama of any impending court actions, it wouldn’t seem like a pre-season without one. Blimey, what is it 3 consecutive Summers now? 😉 Still, at least I’m being told everything’s more professional nowadays. Must be more in court in the last 3 years than the previous 137 years. (I know that’s probably an exaggeration btw!) UTG! But when has us being soft ever done us any favours? I like this new edge to the team. When was the last time we signed one of the best players in the division from the previous season.. Never. Maybe we will get to the Championship again before I die. Not many youngsters will experience this. If we hurt any soft part time 'fans' along the way then so be it. Rickie Lambert.
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Post by bluestickgas1 on Jun 28, 2023 16:07:03 GMT
Not read all 29 pages here and I want to make it completely clear that I don’t advocate violence against anyone unless it is a last result as self defence but I think people should be aware of what the legal definition of Common Assault and Assault by battery is… both sound extremely excessive in terms of use of force but reality is that merely pushing someone can fall into both counts … now I don’t know what Jevani has done in either situation (the one he pleaded guilty too nor the one he’s pleaded not guilty to) but there’s 3 sides to every situation - the prosecutions side, the defendants and the truth. Only the people actually there know what happened..
For clarity the definitions of what the differences are is:
Common assault is the lowest and most common type of assault. It can be a push, slap, punch, hair pulling, kick or spit and does not have to result in any visible or lasting injury. It can even include situations where there is no actual physical touch, fearing an assault, such as an aimed punch that fails to connect during an argument, can be enough for common assault. Common assault is split into two types of offences. Common assault by battery is where a person intentionally or recklessly uses force against another person, such as a slap, push or punch. The term “common assault by beating” is the wording of any such arrest or charge, it often causes concern as a suspect will naturally dispute “beating” someone, but in reality it is just antiquated legal wording for the “application of force”, and the forced used can be very minor. Simple common assault is where a person causes another to suffer or apprehend immediate unlawful violence, such as the pulling of an arm back as if to hit the other, or a thrown punch that fails to connect.
So the severity of what Jevani has admitted to and is also accused of we don’t know. Again I want to be completely clear that I don’t condone or support violence towards any gender unless extremely necessary as a last resort in self defence.
Just trying to bring some balance as again there seems to be quite a few extreme views coming out
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Post by oldie on Jun 28, 2023 16:27:52 GMT
Agreed. I thought we were dreadful up until Christmas in our promotion season and then clicked and played some of the best football I’ve ever seen us play. Then last season we were fairly decent until January when Barton changed the tactics to a very narrow 433 and had us playing very central , we had no width and no pace , we were so predictable and we were awful to watch and the results were dreadful too. I think if the season had gone on a few games longer we’d have gone down. Overal Barton has done well but over the 2 and a bit seasons he’s had we’ve only played amazing football for half a season , the rest has been ok or dire. Exactly. 2022 was great after a forgettable 2021. Followed by a fairly poor 2023 so far. Whilst never the complete story the results back up the idea of a poor run since Christmas. No getting away from that. UTG! But...but...
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Post by Topper Gas on Jun 28, 2023 18:14:27 GMT
Not read all 29 pages here and I want to make it completely clear that I don’t advocate violence against anyone unless it is a last result as self defence but I think people should be aware of what the legal definition of Common Assault and Assault by battery is… both sound extremely excessive in terms of use of force but reality is that merely pushing someone can fall into both counts … now I don’t know what Jevani has done in either situation (the one he pleaded guilty too nor the one he’s pleaded not guilty to) but there’s 3 sides to every situation - the prosecutions side, the defendants and the truth. Only the people actually there know what happened.. For clarity the definitions of what the differences are is: Common assault is the lowest and most common type of assault. It can be a push, slap, punch, hair pulling, kick or spit and does not have to result in any visible or lasting injury. It can even include situations where there is no actual physical touch, fearing an assault, such as an aimed punch that fails to connect during an argument, can be enough for common assault. Common assault is split into two types of offences. Common assault by battery is where a person intentionally or recklessly uses force against another person, such as a slap, push or punch. The term “common assault by beating” is the wording of any such arrest or charge, it often causes concern as a suspect will naturally dispute “beating” someone, but in reality it is just antiquated legal wording for the “application of force”, and the forced used can be very minor. Simple common assault is where a person causes another to suffer or apprehend immediate unlawful violence, such as the pulling of an arm back as if to hit the other, or a thrown punch that fails to connect. So the severity of what Jevani has admitted to and is also accused of we don’t know. Again I want to be completely clear that I don’t condone or support violence towards any gender unless extremely necessary as a last resort in self defence. Just trying to bring some balance as again there seems to be quite a few extreme views coming out JB was only charged with Assault by Beating even though it was alleged he'd kicked Mrs B in the head, so it doesn't always follow it was only a minor incident, if it was only a push or a slap I doubt Exeter would have dropped one of their best performers and effectively let him leave for free, when they were valuing him at £500K before the incident occurred.
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