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Post by bluestickgas1 on Jun 28, 2023 18:33:49 GMT
JB was only charged with Assault by Beating even though it was alleged he'd kicked Mrs B in the head, so it doesn't always follow it was only a minor incident, if it was only a push or a slap I doubt Exeter would have dropped one of their best performers and effectively let him leave for free, when they were valuing him at £500K before the incident occurred. [/quote]
Thing is Topper, just like with JB no one other than those there know exactly what did and didn’t happen… and wasn’t Jevani out of contract this summer so the £500k at Christmas is probably the same as what our £mills for Marty Taylor was? Also they were wanting to re-sign him this summer.
I’m just saying that no one really knows the severity of what he did and is alleged to have done - it could be horrendous or something lower … we just don’t know
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Post by Tilly's Thighs on Jun 28, 2023 19:42:24 GMT
Exactly. 2022 was great after a forgettable 2021. Followed by a fairly poor 2023 so far. Whilst never the complete story the results back up the idea of a poor run since Christmas. No getting away from that. UTG! Butt...butt... You old goat!
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Post by oldie on Jun 28, 2023 19:49:03 GMT
You old goat! 😂😂 Indeed.
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Post by Topper Gas on Jun 28, 2023 19:50:47 GMT
JB was only charged with Assault by Beating even though it was alleged he'd kicked Mrs B in the head, so it doesn't always follow it was only a minor incident, if it was only a push or a slap I doubt Exeter would have dropped one of their best performers and effectively let him leave for free, when they were valuing him at £500K before the incident occurred. Thing is Topper, just like with JB no one other than those there know exactly what did and didn’t happen… and wasn’t Jevani out of contract this summer so the £500k at Christmas is probably the same as what our £mills for Marty Taylor was? Also they were wanting to re-sign him this summer. I’m just saying that no one really knows the severity of what he did and is alleged to have done - it could be horrendous or something lower … we just don’t know [/quote] Whilst we clearly don't know it was sufficiently serious enough to warrant Exeter banishing from any first team action. The CPS are also proceeding with the further case even though he's pleaded guilty to one similar offence. As far as the transfer fee it's widely reported they turned down an order of £250K from Portsmouth just before the incident occurred, so it's not really in the MT category of DC just making up a ridiculous figure. Plus the form he was in before the incident would warrant a decent transfer fee anyway.
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Post by DrFaustus on Jun 28, 2023 19:57:04 GMT
So Topper, what you're saying is that you're guessing (as usual) and know nothing about the case. Whether it's spitting, a shove or a full on punch, you don't know.
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Post by Topper Gas on Jun 29, 2023 17:59:57 GMT
So Topper, what you're saying is that you're guessing (as usual) and know nothing about the case. Whether it's spitting, a shove or a full on punch, you don't know. Likewise it's pointless other posters saying it could only be a push or shove as they also don't know.
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Post by lavalamp on Jun 29, 2023 19:09:56 GMT
So Topper, what you're saying is that you're guessing (as usual) and know nothing about the case. Whether it's spitting, a shove or a full on punch, you don't know. Likewise it's pointless other posters saying it could only be a push or shove as they also don't know. Just because someone else says the opposite to you doesnt make them or you correct. The court case is only 8 days away. Until the full info comes out in court about what happened everything is just conjecture. Just a thought - how about we just wait a few days and then make fully informed comments? 🤔
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Post by DrFaustus on Jun 29, 2023 19:11:46 GMT
So Topper, what you're saying is that you're guessing (as usual) and know nothing about the case. Whether it's spitting, a shove or a full on punch, you don't know. Likewise it's pointless other posters saying it could only be a push or shove as they also don't know. You could start an argument in an empty room, you. Away you go. It's tiresome. Maybe read some of your contradictory stuff every now and then, unless you do it on purpose of course.
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Post by Tilly's Thighs on Jun 30, 2023 0:06:17 GMT
I presume we'll get our first look at what he can do at Melksham. It will be interesting to see what sort of reception he gets.
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Post by lastminutewinner on Jun 30, 2023 9:24:23 GMT
I presume we'll get our first look at what he can do at Melksham. It will be interesting to see what sort of reception he gets. Hopefully positive. Will be no point giving him any stick as he is our player now and could prove to be a key player next season
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Post by purdownpoacher1 on Jun 30, 2023 9:47:53 GMT
I presume we'll get our first look at what he can do at Melksham. It will be interesting to see what sort of reception he gets. Hope it’s a positive one ! 💙Utg
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Post by bridgwatergas on Jun 30, 2023 9:52:54 GMT
Not read all 29 pages here and I want to make it completely clear that I don’t advocate violence against anyone unless it is a last result as self defence but I think people should be aware of what the legal definition of Common Assault and Assault by battery is… both sound extremely excessive in terms of use of force but reality is that merely pushing someone can fall into both counts … now I don’t know what Jevani has done in either situation (the one he pleaded guilty too nor the one he’s pleaded not guilty to) but there’s 3 sides to every situation - the prosecutions side, the defendants and the truth. Only the people actually there know what happened.. For clarity the definitions of what the differences are is: Common assault is the lowest and most common type of assault. It can be a push, slap, punch, hair pulling, kick or spit and does not have to result in any visible or lasting injury. It can even include situations where there is no actual physical touch, fearing an assault, such as an aimed punch that fails to connect during an argument, can be enough for common assault. Common assault is split into two types of offences. Common assault by battery is where a person intentionally or recklessly uses force against another person, such as a slap, push or punch. The term “common assault by beating” is the wording of any such arrest or charge, it often causes concern as a suspect will naturally dispute “beating” someone, but in reality it is just antiquated legal wording for the “application of force”, and the forced used can be very minor. Simple common assault is where a person causes another to suffer or apprehend immediate unlawful violence, such as the pulling of an arm back as if to hit the other, or a thrown punch that fails to connect. So the severity of what Jevani has admitted to and is also accused of we don’t know. Again I want to be completely clear that I don’t condone or support violence towards any gender unless extremely necessary as a last resort in self defence. Just trying to bring some balance as again there seems to be quite a few extreme views coming out JB was only charged with Assault by Beating even though it was alleged he'd kicked Mrs B in the head, so it doesn't always follow it was only a minor incident, if it was only a push or a slap I doubt Exeter would have dropped one of their best performers and effectively let him leave for free, when they were valuing him at £500K before the incident occurred. From speaking to a couple of Exeter season ticket holders at work Brown was suspended by the club because of one man and it has caused a massive rift. The manager wanted him to play and so did the fans but it was blocked by one of the directors.
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Post by percy on Jun 30, 2023 9:55:54 GMT
I presume we'll get our first look at what he can do at Melksham. It will be interesting to see what sort of reception he gets. Imagine it will be similar to the other JB Rovers fans will be split into huge support for him and mostly quietly not supporting. Maybe the odd one or two who will be vocally against (more likely online) Away fans will give him a huge amount of stick. As we have done in the past to players in similar situations. Not great, but this is the Gas in 2023.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2023 10:02:59 GMT
I presume we'll get our first look at what he can do at Melksham. It will be interesting to see what sort of reception he gets. Well that all depends on what phone network he is with. Sorry, I'll get my coat!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2023 10:07:09 GMT
JB was only charged with Assault by Beating even though it was alleged he'd kicked Mrs B in the head, so it doesn't always follow it was only a minor incident, if it was only a push or a slap I doubt Exeter would have dropped one of their best performers and effectively let him leave for free, when they were valuing him at £500K before the incident occurred. From speaking to a couple of Exeter season ticket holders at work Brown was suspended by the club because of one man and it has caused a massive rift. The manager wanted him to play and so did the fans but it was blocked by one of the directors. I would take that summary with a pinch of salt. One person will never have the final say at Exeter due to their Trust model. I live in Devon and have more than a few connections who are more concerned about getting players in than the fact that Jevani Brown has left. His career at Exeter was over the day that he was arrested.
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Post by Henbury Gas on Jun 30, 2023 10:49:38 GMT
From speaking to a couple of Exeter season ticket holders at work Brown was suspended by the club because of one man and it has caused a massive rift. The manager wanted him to play and so did the fans but it was blocked by one of the directors. I would take that summary with a pinch of salt. One person will never have the final say at Exeter due to their Trust model. I live in Devon and have more than a few connections who are more concerned about getting players in than the fact that Jevani Brown has left. His career at Exeter was over the day that he was arrested.and that is why we got him, not because of any romantic bull about wanting to play for the rovers... when he bangs in 20 goals and 10 assists next season he may become a rovers "legend",most people will have forgotten his iffy background
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Post by warehamgas on Jun 30, 2023 11:02:04 GMT
I would take that summary with a pinch of salt. One person will never have the final say at Exeter due to their Trust model. I live in Devon and have more than a few connections who are more concerned about getting players in than the fact that Jevani Brown has left. His career at Exeter was over the day that he was arrested.and that is why we got him, not because of any romantic bull about wanting to play for the rovers... when he bangs in 20 goals and 10 assists next season he may become a rovers "legend",most people will have forgotten his iffy background Yes, that about sums it up. It’s a practical arrangement (bit like most other transfers! 🤔). And if he scores 20 then we’ll probably sell him for a few quid. Not too different from the past 40 years I guess. UTG!
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Post by lastminutewinner on Jun 30, 2023 11:11:48 GMT
Lee Hughes was a proper wrong-un and fans loved him after banging in the goals. I dont pay to watch model citizens I pay to watch footballers play football. My circle of friends now that is altogether different...
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Post by SleepyGas on Jun 30, 2023 15:58:51 GMT
I presume we'll get our first look at what he can do at Melksham. It will be interesting to see what sort of reception he gets. If he does play I don't think he will get a negative reception. Those who have a serious grievance with his signing would most likely stay away - and the few who are there and have issues with him would be too exposed to boo or jeer in a friendly match imo.
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Post by Tilly's Thighs on Jun 30, 2023 16:55:49 GMT
I presume we'll get our first look at what he can do at Melksham. It will be interesting to see what sort of reception he gets. If he does play I don't think he will get a negative reception. Those who have a serious grievance with his signing would most likely stay away - and the few who are there and have issues with him would be too exposed to boo or jeer in a friendly match imo. I agree. Online reactions do not always transfer to the terraces, if you think about it, we're a small percentage of the fanbase in our own little echo chamber.
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