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Post by bridgwatergas on Jun 24, 2023 20:43:08 GMT
It will be interesting to see what comes out in the court case. Assaulting one women then a court case for assaulting another on the same day is quite an odd scenario. I don’t know the details and neither does anyone else seemingly. You have to think the club wouldn’t walk into something that was about to get ugly. Also interesting how Caldwell said they may come back from Brown later in the summer after the case… doesn’t sound like someone who wrote him off entirely. With Caldwell saying there was a possibility they may resign him was very interesting as I would imagine he would know alot more about what happened than most. It seems a few on here and it's the same people make an assumption on what happened without knowing the facts. For me I will wait and see if this actually happens and we do sign him then wait to hear what comes out in court before passing any judgement.
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Post by Goose on Jun 24, 2023 20:43:33 GMT
I would think after original JB case, the club would want to ensure they stayed whiter than white... This potential signing just portrays an image that we don't care and that what we do do is superficial....
Yes he may score goals, yes he may win us games, but not sure I'm comfortable with this one.
Irrespective of what the court outcome is, he's admitted an offense....
Regarding some of the comments on rehab and helping him. It's not as if he done something which has only affected him personally.... Others involved which is different
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Post by purdownpoacher1 on Jun 24, 2023 20:44:51 GMT
are you suggesting that it is worse because the alleged victim is a woman? in July of 2022 Kyle Dempsey of Bolton and his Dad were chasing after someone they had a grudge against and eventually beat up a doorman at a club - breaking his nose and damaging his ribs. Despite that Kyle played the entire season and was even named man of the match at the Papa Johns final. He has subsequently been found guilty and given a 12 month suspended prison sentence and it is ignored and not even mentioned on any Bolton fans chat thing that i can see. The reality is that we know nothing and just maybe we should wait for the story to unfold in court before using it to have a go at our club. Where did I say it was worse because it was a woman? Not all this again ! 🤢
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Post by lastminutewinner on Jun 24, 2023 20:47:42 GMT
Gotta love the teds trying to take the moral high ground for a signing we havent even made.... yet they signed Danny 'wife beater' Simpson
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Jun 24, 2023 20:48:19 GMT
He's guilty of assaulting a woman and due in court charged with a second assault during the same incident. An unnecessary signing given Bartons time with us. Still, you all crack on making excuses and jumping through hoops to make it all OK in your heads just like you all have for Barton. Dam Club stinks. I would just like to know what happened before I decide whether it’s an appropriate signing that’s all. You accuse people of jumping through hoops but minutes earlier made a comparison of signing Brown (without knowing exactly what he has done) to signing a rapist Yeah, you are right, I apologise for overreacting. Good signing this from St Joey. His admission that he assaulted a women probably means he didn't assault her at all. I should also have asked what sort of rape Goodwille was guilty of before I wrote him off too. Anyway, I'm off to punch the wife. Laters.
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Post by mariobalotelli on Jun 24, 2023 20:49:08 GMT
Gotta love the teds trying to take the moral high ground for a signing we havent even made.... yet they signed Danny 'wife beater' Simpson Yep but I guarantee there were posts on here calling them out for it so why do we have so many defending this? Them signing Simpson was vile. Us signing Brown is vile.
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Jun 24, 2023 20:49:47 GMT
Where did I say it was worse because it was a woman? Not all this again ! 🤢 I'm sorry for having an opinion. I'll crawl back in my hole.
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Post by fanboy on Jun 24, 2023 20:50:25 GMT
The usual outrage without knowing a single detail of what actually happened in the incident that was admitted too. Standard. Was he trying to protect someone? Was it a case of being caught up in a melee and catching someone unintentionally? Possible some racial abuse was at hand that wasn’t taken too kindly? Or did he walk up to a stranger and smack them clean in the face in a vicious unprovoked attack? Absolutely no one here knows. Although I imagine WAQ does. What I find most interesting is that Rotherham were keeping an eye and remained keen (his former manager). Caldwell still was keen to reconsider it post court case… it sounds like all we’ve done is taken his word and gone early. It’s a bold move… it could backfire for sure. But I’m not a fan of assuming the press highlights are the facts.
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Post by lastminutewinner on Jun 24, 2023 20:54:01 GMT
Gotta love the teds trying to take the moral high ground for a signing we havent even made.... yet they signed Danny 'wife beater' Simpson Yep but I guarantee there were posts on here calling them out for it so why do we have so many defending this? Them signing Simpson was vile. Us signing Brown is vile. Like I said we havent even signed him yet
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Post by eric on Jun 24, 2023 20:55:17 GMT
I would just like to know what happened before I decide whether it’s an appropriate signing that’s all. You accuse people of jumping through hoops but minutes earlier made a comparison of signing Brown (without knowing exactly what he has done) to signing a rapist Yeah, you are right, I apologise for overreacting. Good signing this from St Joey. His admission that he assaulted a women probably means he didn't assault her at all. I should also have asked what sort of rape Goodwille was guilty of before I wrote him off too. Anyway, I'm off to punch the wife. Laters. Personally, I’ll reserve judgement on whether it’s a good signing until I know a little more about what happened. In the meantime I won’t write the bloke off as no better than a rapist.
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Post by dudelebowski on Jun 24, 2023 20:56:07 GMT
The usual outrage without knowing a single detail of what actually happened in the incident that was admitted too. Standard. Was he trying to protect someone? Was it a case of being caught up in a melee and catching someone unintentionally? Possible some racial abuse was at hand that wasn’t taken too kindly? Or did he walk up to a stranger and smack them clean in the face in a vicious unprovoked attack? Absolutely no one here knows. Although I imagine WAQ does. What I find most interesting is that Rotherham were keeping an eye and remained keen (his former manager). Caldwell still was keen to reconsider it post court case… it sounds like all we’ve done is taken his word and gone early. It’s a bold move… it could backfire for sure. But I’m not a fan of assuming the press highlights are the facts. The club are rolling the dice sure, if he goes to court and gets a guilty then that’ll be contract terminated before he’s kicked a ball for the club. If it’s thrown out/not guilty whatever then we have ourselves a quality player for zilch. As for the admitted offence, there’s so many possibilities in what the circumstances were. Unfortunately some will only roll with the headlines.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2023 20:56:31 GMT
Gotta love the teds trying to take the moral high ground for a signing we havent even made.... yet they signed Danny 'wife beater' Simpson Yep but I guarantee there were posts on here calling them out for it so why do we have so many defending this? Them signing Simpson was vile. Us signing Brown is vile. possibly change your handle. Your comments may then have a bit of substance.just a thought
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Post by axegas on Jun 24, 2023 21:00:22 GMT
Yeah not comfortable with this one whatsoever, a walking PR disaster for the club too. Hope this isn’t true.
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Post by Gas_Quarters on Jun 24, 2023 21:14:54 GMT
What I find most interesting is that Rotherham were keeping an eye and remained keen (his former manager). Caldwell still was keen to reconsider it post court case… it sounds like all we’ve done is taken his word and gone early. It’s a bold move… it could backfire for sure. But I’m not a fan of assuming the press highlights are the facts. The club are rolling the dice sure, if he goes to court and gets a guilty then that’ll be contract terminated before he’s kicked a ball for the club. If it’s thrown out/not guilty whatever then we have ourselves a quality player for zilch. As for the admitted offence, there’s so many possibilities in what the circumstances were. Unfortunately some will only roll with the headlines. The situation couldn’t be summed up better than this, top top post!
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Post by Gassy on Jun 24, 2023 21:17:17 GMT
On the face of it I don’t feel comfortable with this. However, it’s interesting to see some Exeter fan comments wanting to have kept him, as well as managers of different clubs still keen.
My knee jerk reaction tells me this is a bad idea but I’ll wit to see what happens on 6th July, first.
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Post by lastminutewinner on Jun 24, 2023 21:25:43 GMT
On the face of it I don’t feel comfortable with this. However, it’s interesting to see some Exeter fan comments wanting to have kept him, as well as managers of different clubs still keen. My knee jerk reaction tells me this is a bad idea but I’ll wit to see what happens on 6th July, first. Exeter fans seem a bit two-faced. Many of them wanted Exeter to play him at the end of last season and would be happy if he re-signed. Now it looks as if Barton has gazumped them and Rotherham its all "typical Barton thug" etc
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Post by mjg on Jun 24, 2023 21:53:48 GMT
Player that admits assaulting a woman signs for a manager that definitely really hasn't assaulted a woman. Our Joey can probably help our new role model rebuild his rep. Everyone's a winner here. Can't see why anyone would be bothered.
For those saying it's OK..... Just imagine if the Sheet had signed someone like this. Sometimes tribalism is f**ked by basic decency. Isn't it?
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Post by Somersetgas on Jun 24, 2023 21:58:26 GMT
Definite no from me, his history and on going issues is a no, on top of that he’s hardly prolific in professional football, one in five, nah, pass this one on by. Next we will have Mason Greenwood training with us.
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Post by Topper Gas on Jun 24, 2023 22:04:28 GMT
It's strange Bristol Live have ran this story when they've not published anything else recently, I assume the club's leaked this news to either test fans reactions or just to soften us up for when his signing is officially announced next week.
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Post by mariobalotelli on Jun 24, 2023 22:11:07 GMT
It's strange Bristol Live have ran this story when they've not published anything else recently, I assume the club's leaked this news to either test fans reactions or just to soften us up for when his signing is officially announced next week. Nope, this is the source. Exeter forum saying he’s reliable
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