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Post by pucklegas on Jun 25, 2023 15:19:49 GMT
Media team using a Prodigy music video for the announcement? Surely paddington, Mr Brown is back from Peru after visiting with the bear! 🐻 |
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Post by Topper Gas on Jun 25, 2023 15:28:06 GMT
Since when did everything posted on Twitter turn out to be 100% correct? I know you play devils advocate but you contradict yourself in every other post Not contradicting anything, in my view he'll be a risky signing who'll no doubt split the fan base again, however, we've learnt from both of the JB trials that we need to hear both sides version of the events before drawing any conclusions. |
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Post by gassince1957 on Jun 25, 2023 15:34:42 GMT
I know you play devils advocate but you contradict yourself in every other post Not contradicting anything, in my view he'll be a risky signing who'll no doubt split the fan base again, however, we've learnt from both of the JB trials that we need to hear both sides version of the events before drawing any conclusions. Not really - the Barton haters don't accept there was no case to answer, the rest of us are just glad he's our manager! As far as I can tell, the conclusions remain as they were before the trial (especially on the other forum!). I don't know what Jevani Brown did only that he pleaded guilty to one (unspecified) assault and not guilty to another one, so I don't see how any of us can form a conclusion yet. |
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Post by aghast on Jun 25, 2023 15:46:44 GMT
Not contradicting anything, in my view he'll be a risky signing who'll no doubt split the fan base again, however, we've learnt from both of the JB trials that we need to hear both sides version of the events before drawing any conclusions. Not really - the Barton haters don't accept there was no case to answer, the rest of us are just glad he's our manager! As far as I can tell, the conclusions remain as they were before the trial (especially on the other forum!). I don't know what Jevani Brown did only that he pleaded guilty to one (unspecified) assault and not guilty to another one, so I don't see how any of us can form a conclusion yet. It works both ways of course. We don't know the evidence, so why are some so desperate to minimise the 'crime' by saying things like 'women can be evil', 'what injuries she's claiming, if any', 'sounds like he was provoked', 'it was just a push' etc etc. I can guarantee that if he hadn't just joined us he'd be roasted by the same people. I'll wait and see what the evidence, verdicts and punishments are. |
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Post by gasify on Jun 25, 2023 15:50:14 GMT
I get that MB but he wasn’t our player then … IF we can help him rehabilitate then it’s a big plus for the club and how far we have come in recent times. no doubt the club would have done their due diligence it's no difference to the JB scenario last year If I remember correctly, the case was dropped as his wife was not going to be a witness against her husband. That seems an unlikely outcome in this one, especially as he had admitted to some offence(s). |
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Post by Hugh Jarsole on Jun 25, 2023 15:57:56 GMT
I've not been not posted anything on here for nearly two years.
But I gotta say there appears to be a lot of judge judy/Rhinders on here...
There's plenty of court cases that go on every day that we don't necessarily approve of the outcome, but what can we do about it? The people are charged and go back to work, as will Jevani Brown, if not for us for somebody else, and, right or wrong I'd rather he was netting goals for us than against us.
Its not even an announced singing yet, if it is, we just have to trust the justice system and Rovers to do what is right...
See you in 2 years, or when GGMI leaves/banned
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Post by Tilly's Thighs on Jun 25, 2023 16:00:42 GMT
Hope he signs , he’d be a decent addition, plus this place will be great entertainment for me in the close season I’m glad that someone who’s admitted assault by beating of a woman and is on trial for another is so entertaining to you., I'm not in favour of this signing. The charge does cover a wide spectrum though, maybe he pleaded guilty to pushing a woman who was blocking his way, or had got right in his face? I would have thought punching somebody would come under the more serious charge of ABH. I guess the Court case will reveal more, but it's a no from me. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2023 16:02:33 GMT
no doubt the club would have done their due diligence it's no difference to the JB scenario last year If I remember correctly, the case was dropped as his wife was not going to be a witness against her husband. That seems an unlikely outcome in this one, especially as he had admitted to some offence(s). If I remember correctly the case was "Stayed" which means it can be reopened in the future. "A stay of proceedings is a ruling by the court in civil and criminal procedure that halts further legal process in a trial or other legal proceeding. The court can subsequently lift the stay and resume proceedings based on events taking place after the stay is ordered." |
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Post by Tilly's Thighs on Jun 25, 2023 16:10:49 GMT
That's a pretty strong accusation to make about a pro sportsman on social media, I'm pretty certain the official forum was closed down for similar comments. I don't think it's a coincidence that one of the victims sisters quoted the same and it is quoted earlier on in this thread via a twitter post. @officialecfc forgot to mention his attacked on my sober 20 year old sister unprovoked, while he was drunk & high. Spitting in her face, shouting abuse & punching her in the face to knock her to the ground and punching her in the back of her head repeatedly @jevanibrown scum bag Wouldn't that have merited a charge of ABH or even GBH though? I'd certainly hope so, surely punching somebody in the face and the back of the head repeatedly equates to "intent to do grevious bodily harm" - it could well have caused brain damage. |
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Post by gasify on Jun 25, 2023 16:15:34 GMT
If I remember correctly, the case was dropped as his wife was not going to be a witness against her husband. That seems an unlikely outcome in this one, especially as he had admitted to some offence(s). If I remember correctly the case was "Stayed" which means it can be reopened in the future. "A stay of proceedings is a ruling by the court in civil and criminal procedure that halts further legal process in a trial or other legal proceeding. The court can subsequently lift the stay and resume proceedings based on events taking place after the stay is ordered." Thanks for the legals. The comment still valid, its very different to the JB case. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2023 16:16:09 GMT
I don't think it's a coincidence that one of the victims sisters quoted the same and it is quoted earlier on in this thread via a twitter post. @officialecfc forgot to mention his attacked on my sober 20 year old sister unprovoked, while he was drunk & high. Spitting in her face, shouting abuse & punching her in the face to knock her to the ground and punching her in the back of her head repeatedly @jevanibrown scum bag Wouldn't that have merited a charge of ABH or even GBH though? I'd certainly hope so, surely punching somebody in the face and the back of the head repeatedly equates to "intent to do grevious bodily harm" - it could well have caused brain damage. No idea how the CPS works but the evidence will be shown soon. "The court heard that the trial will be shown CCTV from the area at the time of the incident." |
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Post by playtowin on Jun 25, 2023 16:19:47 GMT
I suspect contract talks have happened and the player will join the squad training. However its likely there will be no actual contract until after the trial if the outcome is acceptable.
So july 10th perhaps.
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Post by Tilly's Thighs on Jun 25, 2023 16:24:29 GMT
If I remember correctly, the case was dropped as his wife was not going to be a witness against her husband. That seems an unlikely outcome in this one, especially as he had admitted to some offence(s). If I remember correctly the case was "Stayed" which means it can be reopened in the future. "A stay of proceedings is a ruling by the court in civil and criminal procedure that halts further legal process in a trial or other legal proceeding. The court can subsequently lift the stay and resume proceedings based on events taking place after the stay is ordered." A Stay can also be permanent. As the Judge ordered a Stay because the CPS actions were at odds with case law, and would not permit a fair trial, I would imagine that is the end of it. |
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Post by Tilly's Thighs on Jun 25, 2023 16:26:19 GMT
Wouldn't that have merited a charge of ABH or even GBH though? I'd certainly hope so, surely punching somebody in the face and the back of the head repeatedly equates to "intent to do grevious bodily harm" - it could well have caused brain damage. No idea how the CPS works but the evidence will be shown soon. "The court heard that the trial will be shown CCTV from the area at the time of the incident." Good that they have captured evidence on CCTV, no grey areas so the Court should be able to reach the correct decision. |
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Post by rainhamgas on Jun 25, 2023 16:31:40 GMT
We signed him yet….just asking 🫣
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2023 16:34:44 GMT
If I remember correctly the case was "Stayed" which means it can be reopened in the future. "A stay of proceedings is a ruling by the court in civil and criminal procedure that halts further legal process in a trial or other legal proceeding. The court can subsequently lift the stay and resume proceedings based on events taking place after the stay is ordered." A Stay can also be permanent. As the Judge ordered a Stay because the CPS actions were at odds with case law, and would not permit a fair trial, I would imagine that is the end of it. I agree, I can't see Mrs Barton changing her story back again and giving evidence. Hopefully she will never have the need to. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Jun 25, 2023 16:45:35 GMT
No idea how the CPS works but the evidence will be shown soon. "The court heard that the trial will be shown CCTV from the area at the time of the incident." Good that they have captured evidence on CCTV, no grey areas so the Court should be able to reach the correct decision. There must still be some big grey area or otherwise he would have pleaded guilty to both offences, total guess but perhaps it's obvious he's assaulted one woman less obvious, he's also assaulted the other woman. If it's anything the JB trials it'll be adjourned anyway. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Jun 25, 2023 16:58:05 GMT
We signed him yet….just asking 🫣 If it was total nonsense I assume Rovers would have said something by now to deny it, even it was only a Tweet. |
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Post by percy on Jun 25, 2023 16:58:39 GMT
Not going to get involved in speculation, but would be disappointed if we sign him before the court case has happened. After that, he is allowed to rebuild his career and serve his punishment. No doubt he is a great player and would walk into most L1 sides.
Currently only paper talk, tho this could have been leaked to gauge the reaction (sorry, speculation).
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Post by farmygas on Jun 25, 2023 18:17:06 GMT
f**k this scummy club.
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