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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2023 12:33:22 GMT
Careful with those words Eric, we're sailing very close to democracy here in having an individual opinion. Whereas we now live in a society we're everyone is expected to be a sheep and all agree with one another. We must not have individual opinions, how dare these people object and have amind of thier own! Down with democracy, let's follow Russia and China and do and think as we're told. Oh dear You can have any opinion you want, you can also be called out or laughed at because of them I don't have an opinion on this as its not a club I support so I'm not bothered either way. But certainly worn out with people thinking we should all think the same way, that's sheep territory. |
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Post by oldie on Jul 5, 2023 13:18:52 GMT
Oh dear You can have any opinion you want, you can also be called out or laughed at because of them I don't have an opinion on this as its not a club I support so I'm not bothered either way. But certainly worn out with people thinking we should all think the same way, that's sheep territory. I know fora fact I don't think like Eric.🤔😂😂 |
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Post by greeniebrfc on Jul 5, 2023 13:23:24 GMT
sadly theres a lot of abuse in the mens game , and men getting shirty with one another . most women sadly are to fragile for it . the womens game with less fans and politer ones is a safer environment for them to be in , i support that
Les
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Post by lastminutewinner on Jul 5, 2023 13:24:10 GMT
remember that old 80/90s TV series The Manageress with Cherie Lunghi? It's taken a long time to happen for real!
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Post by greeniebrfc on Jul 5, 2023 13:32:32 GMT
whos the blond physio who gets dogs abuse every game by away fans ?
and some on here wouldnt mind that amplified ten times happening to their daughters ?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2023 14:20:32 GMT
whos the blond physio who gets dogs abuse every game by away fans ? and some on here wouldnt mind that amplified ten times happening to their daughters ? Sorry, are you being serious? Surely not. Are you suggesting people should just not do certain jobs or go certain places because if they do they will be abused? The issue here is ALWAYS with people giving out dogs abuse, not those getting abused. There is no excuse for it. People should be able to go and fulfil their potential regardless of any characteristic. The idea they should limit their progress for fear of getting undeserved abuse is tragic. God forbid someone has to spend a Saturday afternoon not shouting abuse at someone different to them! |
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Post by eric on Jul 5, 2023 14:30:12 GMT
If I was to put money on the first club to appoint a female manager I’d have picked FGR under Dale Vince. I think having appointed her as interim manager it would be difficult for him not to follow that through by giving her the job full-time - he could be open to criticism of tokenism otherwise.
I really hope she isn’t being used by Vince as a PR stunt or social experiment as if he’s put her in a position she is not ready for it will be damaging to her and the wider cause of trying to get more women involved in men’s football.
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Post by warehamgas on Jul 5, 2023 14:47:13 GMT
Are you surprised by the comments or surprised that people are brave enough to air their genuine opinions? Careful with those words Eric, we're sailing very close to democracy here in having an individual opinion. Whereas we now live in a society we're everyone is expected to be a sheep and all agree with one another. We must not have individual opinions, how dare these people object and have amind of thier own! Down with democracy, let's follow Russia and China and do and think as we're told. That’s not true is it? No one is expected to be a sheep and follow what everyone else thinks because I’m not sure what everyone else does think. I’m sure there will be a range of opinions and all made more controversial because Dale Vince and FGR are involved. At the moment it appears that a lot of these comments critical of the appointment are being made, not because of her ability (I haven’t seen that mentioned) but because of her gender. And that, some would argue is just plain, old-fashioned misogyny. And I’m not sure how ‘brave’ it is to express it. 🤔 Everyone is entitled to an opinion of course but with the freedom to express an opinion and have free speech comes a responsibility not to be many things. I’m sure we’ve progressed enough to not judge the ability of a person to do a job based on their religious affiliation, their skin colour, where they come from or many other things. Let’s not make the same mistake over someone’s gender affecting that. Pretty sure it’s a simple one: There’s a job vacancy at a football club, the owner looks around to see who in the club is the best person to be caretaker/interim manager, appoints that person in the short term to get on with it. Whether that becomes a permanent appointment who knows. The world hasn’t ended, democracy is still there (although of course it may depend on who’s democracy you’re talking about) and no one is being told what to think or what to do. A tad over-dramatic perhaps. UTG! |
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Post by nailseamark on Jul 5, 2023 15:11:36 GMT
I have no problem with it except that it’s Dale Vince and this is a PR stunt. If a proper team appointed a women manager I’d say fair play.
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Post by yattongas on Jul 5, 2023 15:17:52 GMT
I have no problem with it except that it’s Dale Vince and this is a PR stunt. If a proper team appointed a women manager I’d say fair play. Conversely it probably takes someone like Dale Vince to take that first step as others wouldn’t. |
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Post by A Source (aka Angry Badger) on Jul 5, 2023 15:32:03 GMT
I have no problem with it except that it’s Dale Vince and this is a PR stunt. If a proper team appointed a women manager I’d say fair play. Have you looked at her CV. Burton academy coach 2013 and was then coach for the senior team 2016-19. Academy manager at FGR from 2019. 1st female academy coach in england. Don't think it's a PR stunt, she's done the work to get here. It's also interim. Probably because if she failed you'd say 'told you so' |
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Post by nailseamark on Jul 5, 2023 15:32:05 GMT
I have no problem with it except that it’s Dale Vince and this is a PR stunt. If a proper team appointed a women manager I’d say fair play. Conversely it probably takes someone like Dale Vince to take that first step as others wouldn’t. Same Dale Vince who left the mother of his child rotting in a council house whilst he lived in a castle? |
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Post by warehamgas on Jul 5, 2023 15:34:06 GMT
I have no problem with it except that it’s Dale Vince and this is a PR stunt. If a proper team appointed a women manager I’d say fair play. Conversely it probably takes someone like Dale Vince to take that first step as others wouldn’t. Very true yatton. Like him or not the guy goes out on a limb sometimes and does what no one else has done. Although not the same I’m pretty sure when he appointed Rob Edwards he came in for criticism because Edwards had come from an England U16s post. In other words from schoolboy football. And that went very well. Vince is a maverick and this appointment is a perfect example of that. UTG! |
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Post by yattongas on Jul 5, 2023 15:44:34 GMT
Conversely it probably takes someone like Dale Vince to take that first step as others wouldn’t. Same Dale Vince who left the mother of his child rotting in a council house whilst he lived in a castle? You been reading the Mail again ? 🙄 |
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Post by nailseamark on Jul 5, 2023 15:49:08 GMT
Same Dale Vince who left the mother of his child rotting in a council house whilst he lived in a castle? You been reading the Mail again ? 🙄 Don’t be sad, I’m sure one day Yatton can have it’s own grown up school and you will all be able to read too! 😂 |
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Jul 5, 2023 15:55:42 GMT
Conversely it probably takes someone like Dale Vince to take that first step as others wouldn’t. Very true yatton. Like him or not the guy goes out on a limb sometimes and does what no one else has done. Although not the same I’m pretty sure when he appointed Rob Edwards he came in for criticism because Edwards had come from an England U16s post. In other words from schoolboy football. And that went very well. Vince is a maverick and this appointment is a perfect example of that. UTG! He's actually a very successful bloke. Yes, he likes to give himself a pat on the back a bit too much, and I don't like that part of him but you can't knock what he has achieved and he does think outside the box a little. |
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Post by aghast on Jul 5, 2023 15:58:36 GMT
The dinosaurs feel threatened by it. That's ultimately what it comes down to.
As for female fans being opposed to it, and we have at least two on this thread, I can only hope that the vast silent majority of women will be all in favour. Most didn't take an active role in gaining votes for women but nevertheless supported it as the only logical thing to do, as is this new initiative.
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Post by Tilly's Thighs on Jul 5, 2023 16:10:28 GMT
She will be aware of the environment that she is working in, and adjust as necessary, the same as I presume Gareth Taylor had to when moving into managing in the women's game. All a learning curve, there are opportunities open for people to prove their worth. Let's face it, some of the men who've had managerial jobs havent exactly cut the mustard, but it didn't seem to deter their future employers.
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Post by yattongas on Jul 5, 2023 16:10:55 GMT
You been reading the Mail again ? 🙄 Don’t be sad, I’m sure one day Yatton can have its own grown up school and you will all be able to read too! 😂 Let’s hope so , then I can carry on reading your insightful posts ! 😀 |
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Post by eric on Jul 5, 2023 16:13:27 GMT
I have no problem with it except that it’s Dale Vince and this is a PR stunt. If a proper team appointed a women manager I’d say fair play. Have you looked at her CV. Burton academy coach 2013 and was then coach for the senior team 2016-19. Academy manager at FGR from 2019. 1st female academy coach in england. Don't think it's a PR stunt, she's done the work to get here. It's also interim. Probably because if she failed you'd say 'told you so' Ben Garner probably had a more impressive CV and was vilified by our fan base as a PE Teacher who should never be allowed to work in first team professional football. |
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