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Post by scdave on Sept 24, 2023 12:59:11 GMT
A great team performance and difficult to single out one player when several were contenders for MotM, but no doubt Marquis made a real difference.
Hunt and Thomas look a great combination but how many times in leagues games earlier this season have they broke the back line and looked up, only to see Brown and Collins on the edge of the box and therefore had to play the ball back instead.
He might not have got a touch to the cross which led to Hunt's goal but his presence was enough to create the space for Hunt and wrong foot the keeper.
How many people noticed the effort he put in for the third goal? He chased down the back line from near the West Stand right across to their left back, making him hurry his clearance and give us possession.
Earlier it was his clever run which took the defender out of position that allowed Evans to run at goal before skying his left foot chance and again when Collins had that run in the second half beating 2 or 3 defenders, it was Big John's run off the ball that created the space.
For his goal he won the ball in his own half and held it up, before laying off a simple ball, before making the run to get in the box.
His pressure means defenders don't get full clearances. I think yesterday was the most times in a game where we shot from outside the box, rather than having to collect the ball ten yards further back and having to go sideways.
Held the ball up well, harried the defence and fully deserved his goal.
I am not sure of the stats, but would expect there is a marked difference between Rovers goals scored this season when Marquis was on the pitch, compared to those when he is not.
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Post by bidefordgas on Sept 24, 2023 13:04:27 GMT
Totally agree Dave, Big John was my man of the match but followed closely behind by 3 or 4 others.
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Post by percy on Sept 24, 2023 13:18:58 GMT
Yup. Just put a JM appreciation post on the MDT. Does so much for the team
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Sept 24, 2023 13:47:46 GMT
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Post by madgas on Sept 24, 2023 13:47:46 GMT
JM had a great game but it all stemmed from one simple thing... for whatever reason we were playing 5 yards higher up.
This meant that JM had people in the line of attack which in turn meant there was neither need or room for him to pull wide. He kept central.
I think this was a deliberate because you could see that JM wasn't coming over for throw ins.
He's a menace at occupying a defender. And if he stays central he's a good player at this level. We don't need him running the channels, we need him pinning CBs.
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Post by mftc on Sept 24, 2023 14:02:33 GMT
I don't think it was a coincidence we were playing 5 yards further, it was due to Marquis.
There were a lot of moans about their goal, but I would fully expect Marquis to make that sort of challenge on the keeper. Let's face it he has done worse.
For Collins goal he was clever enough to come back from an offside position, but had his hands held up so the officials knew he was not "active". I'm not so sure all our players would have displayed that football knowhow.
Good to see him score. More than anyone he makes us tick, as he is the focal point up front.
Got to Grant was also brilliant. So calm on the ball and again showed his intelligence to counter the physical threat of Wyke.
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Post by gashead1981 on Sept 24, 2023 14:49:04 GMT
LT for me was MOM. Great work rate on both sides. Combines well with Hunt.
Evans was excellent in MF. Collins and Marquis worked well up top and I thought Vale at LB deserves some praise too.
For me this came down to one critical tactical/formation change and that was only playing with 1 DCM in Finley.
Previous games we’ve played Finley/Woods or Finley/Ward within the MF set up. With just Finley there it opened up space for Bogarde and Evans to do what they do best and for Collins to stay further forward and not have to drop deep to get a look in on possession.
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Post by gulfofaden on Sept 24, 2023 14:56:36 GMT
Finley was flawless. MOTM for me.
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Post by eric on Sept 24, 2023 15:26:57 GMT
Great to come away from a game having so many potential man of the match contenders. I don’t think any player was less than a 7 or 8 out of 10. Personally I’m loving watching the skill, movement and awareness of Evans and Thomas. Marquis works his socks off and can set the tone of a game with his aggressive pressing - icing on the cake yesterday was his well deserved and well taken goal.
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Post by 2nd May 1990 on Sept 24, 2023 21:38:29 GMT
A great team performance and difficult to single out one player when several were contenders for MotM, but no doubt Marquis made a real difference. Hunt and Thomas look a great combination but how many times in leagues games earlier this season have they broke the back line and looked up, only to see Brown and Collins on the edge of the box and therefore had to play the ball back instead. He might not have got a touch to the cross which led to Hunt's goal but his presence was enough to create the space for Hunt and wrong foot the keeper. How many people noticed the effort he put in for the third goal? He chased down the back line from near the West Stand right across to their left back, making him hurry his clearance and give us possession. Earlier it was his clever run which took the defender out of position that allowed Evans to run at goal before skying his left foot chance and again when Collins had that run in the second half beating 2 or 3 defenders, it was Big John's run off the ball that created the space. For his goal he won the ball in his own half and held it up, before laying off a simple ball, before making the run to get in the box. His pressure means defenders don't get full clearances. I think yesterday was the most times in a game where we shot from outside the box, rather than having to collect the ball ten yards further back and having to go sideways. Held the ball up well, harried the defence and fully deserved his goal. I am not sure of the stats, but would expect there is a marked difference between Rovers goals scored this season when Marquis was on the pitch, compared to those when he is not.Astute point, albeit still early days in the season: With Marquis 532 mins, 15 goals scored Without Marquis 458 mins, 2 goals scored |
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Post by c4h10 on Sept 24, 2023 21:55:48 GMT
A great team performance and difficult to single out one player when several were contenders for MotM, but no doubt Marquis made a real difference. Hunt and Thomas look a great combination but how many times in leagues games earlier this season have they broke the back line and looked up, only to see Brown and Collins on the edge of the box and therefore had to play the ball back instead. He might not have got a touch to the cross which led to Hunt's goal but his presence was enough to create the space for Hunt and wrong foot the keeper. How many people noticed the effort he put in for the third goal? He chased down the back line from near the West Stand right across to their left back, making him hurry his clearance and give us possession. Earlier it was his clever run which took the defender out of position that allowed Evans to run at goal before skying his left foot chance and again when Collins had that run in the second half beating 2 or 3 defenders, it was Big John's run off the ball that created the space. For his goal he won the ball in his own half and held it up, before laying off a simple ball, before making the run to get in the box. His pressure means defenders don't get full clearances. I think yesterday was the most times in a game where we shot from outside the box, rather than having to collect the ball ten yards further back and having to go sideways. Held the ball up well, harried the defence and fully deserved his goal. I am not sure of the stats, but would expect there is a marked difference between Rovers goals scored this season when Marquis was on the pitch, compared to those when he is not.Astute point, albeit still early days in the season: With Marquis 532 mins, 15 goals scored
Without Marquis 458 mins, 2 goals scored Wow! Now that's what I call a stat'. I didn't realise until I read your post, so thanks. |
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Post by Wembley_Gas on Sept 25, 2023 1:47:39 GMT
Whilst I am not an advocate of “goal music” I wouldn’t be averse to Lance cuing up “The goalscorer for Rovers is…” followed by the sound bite “Big John, Big John,…Big Bad John”.
We could all join in on the Big Bad John part!
Seriously though, I’m glad to see he’s getting recognition for the unsung parts of his game and now he’s got 2 in 2 league games hopefully this is the start of a hot streak.
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Post by gulfofaden on Sept 25, 2023 4:16:19 GMT
Whilst I am not an advocate of “goal music” I wouldn’t be averse to Lance cuing up “The goalscorer for Rovers is…” followed by the sound bite “Big John, Big John,…Big Bad John”. We could all join in on the Big Bad John part! Seriously though, I’m glad to see he’s getting recognition for the unsung parts of his game and now he’s got 2 in 2 league games hopefully this is the start of a hot streak. It’s a good choice but please, no goal music. No drum. These are the democratic principles this club were founded on and what you’re suggesting is unconstitutional. |
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Post by Qatar Gas on Sept 25, 2023 4:51:41 GMT
A great team performance and difficult to single out one player when several were contenders for MotM, but no doubt Marquis made a real difference. Hunt and Thomas look a great combination but how many times in leagues games earlier this season have they broke the back line and looked up, only to see Brown and Collins on the edge of the box and therefore had to play the ball back instead. He might not have got a touch to the cross which led to Hunt's goal but his presence was enough to create the space for Hunt and wrong foot the keeper. How many people noticed the effort he put in for the third goal? He chased down the back line from near the West Stand right across to their left back, making him hurry his clearance and give us possession. Earlier it was his clever run which took the defender out of position that allowed Evans to run at goal before skying his left foot chance and again when Collins had that run in the second half beating 2 or 3 defenders, it was Big John's run off the ball that created the space. For his goal he won the ball in his own half and held it up, before laying off a simple ball, before making the run to get in the box. His pressure means defenders don't get full clearances. I think yesterday was the most times in a game where we shot from outside the box, rather than having to collect the ball ten yards further back and having to go sideways. Held the ball up well, harried the defence and fully deserved his goal. I am not sure of the stats, but would expect there is a marked difference between Rovers goals scored this season when Marquis was on the pitch, compared to those when he is not.Astute point, albeit still early days in the season: With Marquis 532 mins, 15 goals scored Without Marquis 458 mins, 2 goals scored I was about to say we are a much better team with JM in it. Looking at that stat then there is no need for me to point out the obvious! He was very unlucky not to score earlier on in the season and then he got dropped. Now that he is back in and has a couple of goals, hopefully that'll boost confidence even more. |
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Sept 25, 2023 7:44:18 GMT
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Post by mftc on Sept 25, 2023 7:44:18 GMT
A great team performance and difficult to single out one player when several were contenders for MotM, but no doubt Marquis made a real difference. Hunt and Thomas look a great combination but how many times in leagues games earlier this season have they broke the back line and looked up, only to see Brown and Collins on the edge of the box and therefore had to play the ball back instead. He might not have got a touch to the cross which led to Hunt's goal but his presence was enough to create the space for Hunt and wrong foot the keeper. How many people noticed the effort he put in for the third goal? He chased down the back line from near the West Stand right across to their left back, making him hurry his clearance and give us possession. Earlier it was his clever run which took the defender out of position that allowed Evans to run at goal before skying his left foot chance and again when Collins had that run in the second half beating 2 or 3 defenders, it was Big John's run off the ball that created the space. For his goal he won the ball in his own half and held it up, before laying off a simple ball, before making the run to get in the box. His pressure means defenders don't get full clearances. I think yesterday was the most times in a game where we shot from outside the box, rather than having to collect the ball ten yards further back and having to go sideways. Held the ball up well, harried the defence and fully deserved his goal. I am not sure of the stats, but would expect there is a marked difference between Rovers goals scored this season when Marquis was on the pitch, compared to those when he is not.Astute point, albeit still early days in the season: With Marquis 532 mins, 15 goals scored Without Marquis 458 mins, 2 goals scored Unless he was injured why would he not have played? He may have missed some chances early in the season but he was getting into the right places and that is half the battle. No one else in the squad has got that goalscoring nouse. |
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Post by Tilly's Thighs on Sept 25, 2023 13:27:48 GMT
A great team performance and difficult to single out one player when several were contenders for MotM, but no doubt Marquis made a real difference. Hunt and Thomas look a great combination but how many times in leagues games earlier this season have they broke the back line and looked up, only to see Brown and Collins on the edge of the box and therefore had to play the ball back instead. He might not have got a touch to the cross which led to Hunt's goal but his presence was enough to create the space for Hunt and wrong foot the keeper. How many people noticed the effort he put in for the third goal? He chased down the back line from near the West Stand right across to their left back, making him hurry his clearance and give us possession. Earlier it was his clever run which took the defender out of position that allowed Evans to run at goal before skying his left foot chance and again when Collins had that run in the second half beating 2 or 3 defenders, it was Big John's run off the ball that created the space. For his goal he won the ball in his own half and held it up, before laying off a simple ball, before making the run to get in the box. His pressure means defenders don't get full clearances. I think yesterday was the most times in a game where we shot from outside the box, rather than having to collect the ball ten yards further back and having to go sideways. Held the ball up well, harried the defence and fully deserved his goal. I am not sure of the stats, but would expect there is a marked difference between Rovers goals scored this season when Marquis was on the pitch, compared to those when he is not.Astute point, albeit still early days in the season: With Marquis 532 mins, 15 goals scored Without Marquis 458 mins, 2 goals scored Very interesting, I think that some people are only just realising what JM brings to the team. I said at the start of the season, that, if we play to his strengths, this could be a good year for him. Hopefully I'll be getting a Boom in May!  |
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Post by seanclevedongas on Sept 25, 2023 13:51:56 GMT
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Sept 25, 2023 15:35:22 GMT
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Post by willytopp84 on Sept 25, 2023 15:35:22 GMT
Be funny if somebody could make him a chant based on that song. |
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Post by oldtoteender on Sept 25, 2023 16:50:36 GMT
I've been saying to my mates for a while now what a really good CF he is,and I would prefer him in my team to JCH anyday, works much harder for the team, but saying that we do need cover for him in the squad. UTG !
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Post by Topper Gas on Sept 25, 2023 17:49:40 GMT
Astute point, albeit still early days in the season: With Marquis 532 mins, 15 goals scored Without Marquis 458 mins, 2 goals scored Unless he was injured why would he not have played? He may have missed some chances early in the season but he was getting into the right places and that is half the battle. No one else in the squad has got that goalscoring nouse. Players being "rested" this season seems to be working, JM looks better after a rest, Taylor looks better after a brief rest and Finley was back to his best after a bit longer rest. |
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