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Post by Qatar Gas on Oct 5, 2023 9:20:57 GMT
Guessing none of the South American countries could put together a single or joint bid to host the entire thing? Originally there was going to be a bid from South America and a joint one from Spain/Portugal/Morocco. I believe all parties agreed to share it in this way to avoid a costly bidding process. I doubt the South American one would have won anyway as they don't have the infrastructure and no money to improve anything. This will now give Saudi a free run at 2034 as nobody from Europe, South America or Africa will be able to bid for that one. So unless someone like Australia or China goes for it, then its only going to Saudi. |
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Post by Qatar Gas on Oct 5, 2023 9:24:00 GMT
Apparently the six countries where games will be held will all automatically qualify for the 2030 world cup. Makes it even more ridiculous. Yeah I read that and if they are seeded it'll be even more ridiculous. Granted Argentina, Spain and possible Portugal would have been seeded anyway. On the plus side, there would be a better chance of seeing top teams playing each other in the group stages. For Euro 2028, UEFA will only allow two teams to automatically qualify, therefore, the home nations and Ireland will still have to go through qualifying with the two highest placed teams who do not automatically qualifying being given given a spot. |
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Post by DrFaustus on Oct 5, 2023 9:24:22 GMT
South American section sounds brilliant for 2030. I'll be off to that to see Scotland get through to round 2.
Oh, wait...😥🏴
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Post by chewbacca on Oct 5, 2023 10:43:24 GMT
Unfortunately the infrastructure and stadiums in Uruguay, Argentina & Paraguay simply aren't up to scratch to host a full tournament. Almost all attendees would have to go through Ministro Pistarini Airport (which is around the same size as Bristol). The majority of stadiums would be in Buenos Aires and have to be redeveloped. Both Monumental (Buenos Aires) and Centenario (Montevideo) have recently received developments to bring them up to the required standard but the likes of La Bombonera, El Cilindro, La Doble Visera and others would need to be completely redeveloped. The Argentine economy simply isn't stable enough for it.
In reality the number of countries able to host a World Cup is rapidly decreasing.
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Post by heartofgas on Oct 5, 2023 10:49:35 GMT
Apparently the six countries where games will be held will all automatically qualify for the 2030 world cup. Makes it even more ridiculous. Yeah I read that and if they are seeded it'll be even more ridiculous. Granted Argentina, Spain and possible Portugal would have been seeded anyway. On the plus side, there would be a better chance of seeing top teams playing each other in the group stages. For Euro 2028, UEFA will only allow two teams to automatically qualify, therefore, the home nations and Ireland will still have to go through qualifying with the two highest placed teams who do not automatically qualifying being given given a spot. I hadn't thought about the seeding. |
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Post by supergas on Oct 5, 2023 11:12:24 GMT
Yeah I read that and if they are seeded it'll be even more ridiculous. Granted Argentina, Spain and possible Portugal would have been seeded anyway. On the plus side, there would be a better chance of seeing top teams playing each other in the group stages. For Euro 2028, UEFA will only allow two teams to automatically qualify, therefore, the home nations and Ireland will still have to go through qualifying with the two highest placed teams who do not automatically qualifying being given given a spot. I hadn't thought about the seeding. Logically there is no need to seed the three South American teams just for hosting one game - but I would bet there is a huge move by FIFA to do so.... ...in terms of host nations, we must now be reaching a point where it's just sensible and practical to rotate it between the 6-7 countries with the infrastructure in place to host it, why the demand to take it to new countries who will spend money and build things that will be used for just over one month...? |
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Post by Qatar Gas on Oct 5, 2023 11:25:36 GMT
I hadn't thought about the seeding. Logically there is no need to seed the three South American teams just for hosting one game - but I would bet there is a huge move by FIFA to do so.... ...in terms of host nations, we must now be reaching a point where it's just sensible and practical to rotate it between the 6-7 countries with the infrastructure in place to host it, why the demand to take it to new countries who will spend money and build things that will be used for just over one month...? The hosts would normally be in group as as A1. With one seeded team going into each other group, but could be any of the four positions in that group. B1 to B4 for example. As they set the locations for each game before the draw they would need to place the South American teams into a group and a position for them to play their first games in the host country. __PRESENT |
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Post by Qatar Gas on Oct 5, 2023 11:29:55 GMT
In reality the number of countries able to host a World Cup is rapidly decreasing. Especially with it now being 48 teams and I am sure FIFA will want to increase it again at some point. I've no problem with countries sharing it as long as makes sense geographically. Spain/Portugal/Morocco would have been fine without the possibility of playing your first game on the other side of the world. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2023 11:54:46 GMT
The carbon footprint for that tournament will have the horfield greens up in arms.but then again its not in their own utopia so will be ok
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Post by aghast on Oct 5, 2023 16:14:47 GMT
Apparently the six countries where games will be held will all automatically qualify for the 2030 world cup. Makes it even more ridiculous. Yeah I read that and if they are seeded it'll be even more ridiculous. Granted Argentina, Spain and possible Portugal would have been seeded anyway. On the plus side, there would be a better chance of seeing top teams playing each other in the group stages. For Euro 2028, UEFA will only allow two teams to automatically qualify, therefore, the home nations and Ireland will still have to go through qualifying with the two highest placed teams who do not automatically qualifying being given given a spot. Who are the two automatic teams in Euro 2028? Would it have been the winners of 2024 and the hosts? |
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Post by gulfofaden on Oct 5, 2023 18:16:52 GMT
I thought FIFA would just go to the next corrupt regime. North Korea maybe? Perhaps Afghanistan?
Provided there’s lots of money laundering opportunities they’re always game
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Oct 5, 2023 18:47:20 GMT
With the cricket world cup being hosted in India, the infrastructure and stadia are already good to go, and FIFA like a minnow country, I would have thought an easy destination for fans and professionals alike?
The Ahmedabad venue holds 132,000..
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Post by kampucheagas on Oct 5, 2023 19:05:26 GMT
With the cricket world cup being hosted in India, the infrastructure and stadia are already good to go, and FIFA like a minnow country, I would have thought an easy destination for fans and professionals alike? The Ahmedabad venue holds 132,000.. Now that’s one World Cup I would go to!! UTG |
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Post by DrFaustus on Oct 5, 2023 21:08:50 GMT
I thought FIFA would just go to the next corrupt regime. North Korea maybe? Perhaps Afghanistan? Provided there’s lots of money laundering opportunities they’re always game If the WC goes to Saudi Arabia we may as well give up for the ever diminishing integrity of football at an international level. It's bad enough it was held in an oppressive dictatorship like Qatar, but SA, really? Where will it be twinned with? Some twee sh**e to appeal to the short of brain cells, like Kuwait? Or maybe Yemen? #fuckthebigots UTFG 🏴☠️ |
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Post by aghast on Oct 5, 2023 21:53:22 GMT
I thought FIFA would just go to the next corrupt regime. North Korea maybe? Perhaps Afghanistan? Provided there’s lots of money laundering opportunities they’re always game If the WC goes to Saudi Arabia we may as well give up for the ever diminishing integrity of football at an international level. It's bad enough it was held in an oppressive dictatorship like Qatar, but SA, really? Where will it be twinned with? Some twee sh**e to appeal to the short of brain cells, like Kuwait? Or maybe Yemen? #fuckthebigots UTFG 🏴☠️ Well we'd better get used to it with the money floating around the Saudi Pro League. They'll be knocking on the door of UEFA to get in the Champions League in a few years. |
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Post by singupgas on Oct 5, 2023 21:55:21 GMT
FIFA need to stop being so greedy. What a horrible idea. It sure can't be very beneficial to a country to host just 1 or 2 games of a world cup.
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Post by Qatar Gas on Oct 7, 2023 5:55:00 GMT
Yeah I read that and if they are seeded it'll be even more ridiculous. Granted Argentina, Spain and possible Portugal would have been seeded anyway. On the plus side, there would be a better chance of seeing top teams playing each other in the group stages. For Euro 2028, UEFA will only allow two teams to automatically qualify, therefore, the home nations and Ireland will still have to go through qualifying with the two highest placed teams who do not automatically qualifying being given given a spot. Who are the two automatic teams in Euro 2028? Would it have been the winners of 2024 and the hosts? All the home nations & Ireland will still take part in the qualifiers. For example, if England & Scotland were to qualify and the other three miss out via this method, two of them would get the automatic places and it’s decided on where they finish in the qualifiers. |
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Post by supergas on Oct 7, 2023 6:42:14 GMT
With the cricket world cup being hosted in India, the infrastructure and stadia are already good to go, and FIFA like a minnow country, I would have thought an easy destination for fans and professionals alike? The Ahmedabad venue holds 132,000.. Not a rectangular stadium though - pretty sure FIFA require tournament venues to be rectangular not oval, which is why the MCG in Melbourne (capacity 100,000+), Optus Stadium in Perth (capacity 60,000+), and other big AFL grounds were not used for the Women's world cup - instead they used AAMI Park in Melbourne (capacity 27,000+) and HBF Park in Perth (capacity 18,000+) |
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Oct 7, 2023 9:14:51 GMT
With the cricket world cup being hosted in India, the infrastructure and stadia are already good to go, and FIFA like a minnow country, I would have thought an easy destination for fans and professionals alike? The Ahmedabad venue holds 132,000.. Not a rectangular stadium though - pretty sure FIFA require tournament venues to be rectangular not oval, which is why the MCG in Melbourne (capacity 100,000+), Optus Stadium in Perth (capacity 60,000+), and other big AFL grounds were not used for the Women's world cup - instead they used AAMI Park in Melbourne (capacity 27,000+) and HBF Park in Perth (capacity 18,000+) Is that a serious post? FIFA regulate the stadium shape? |
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