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Post by Kingswood Polak on Oct 13, 2023 16:20:18 GMT
I’d say that there are too many possibilities here plus there have been lots of data breaches. I reckon it was the butler, from ticketMaster 😂 Evidence for that or are you just speculating? I got both emails and notifications from Apple about data leaks and they helped me to change every password on each site on which it happened. It was not a quick task, one was my bloody bank account. |
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Post by gasburner on Oct 13, 2023 16:32:21 GMT
Evidence for that or are you just speculating? I got both emails and notifications from Apple about data leaks and they helped me to change every password on each site on which it happened. It was not a quick task, one was my bloody bank account. This appears to be a different issue to the accusations you have labelled at us and the club. " i now believe it must have something to do with the club or they would not have access to email addresses. " Once we've received your email we'll be able to tell you if we have your email address on the website data file. |
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Post by gasandelectricity on Oct 13, 2023 16:36:55 GMT
Evidence for that or are you just speculating? I got both emails and notifications from Apple about data leaks and they helped me to change every password on each site on which it happened. It was not a quick task, one was my bloody bank account. Absolutely, data breaches are a pain in the ass and happen all the time. I’d recommend using password managers like you have and letting your phone / app autogenerate passwords on your behalf. This way every account is disconnected from each other and unless your password manager breaches then losing one in a breach doesn’t mean that those who have them can access everything. But… that’s a whole different world from data breaches coming from the club. Which there does not seem to be evidence of. |
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Post by gasburner on Oct 13, 2023 16:54:48 GMT
I got both emails and notifications from Apple about data leaks and they helped me to change every password on each site on which it happened. It was not a quick task, one was my bloody bank account. Absolutely, data breaches are a pain in the ass and happen all the time. I’d recommend using password managers like you have and letting your phone / app autogenerate passwords on your behalf. This way every account is disconnected from each other and unless your password manager breaches then losing one in a breach doesn’t mean that those who have them can access everything. But… that’s a whole different world from data breaches coming from the club. Which there does not seem to be evidence of. Happy to reiterate once more that gasburner has not received any data from the club nor has access to any form of personal data held by the club. We wont comment on this further. |
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Post by bobbyjones on Oct 13, 2023 17:38:37 GMT
All this talk and noone knows anything, I would like to know who the f**k they are and what is WEALS role in all this.
We are all concerned about OUR team but it seems nobody knows what is happening.
It is about time we all know something, anything, from the so say owners.
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Post by baggins on Oct 13, 2023 17:43:07 GMT
All this talk and noone knows anything, I would like to know who the f**k they are and what is WEALS role in all this. We are all concerned about OUR team but it seems nobody knows what is happening. It is about time we all know something, anything, from the so say owners. About? |
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Post by gasify on Oct 13, 2023 18:11:06 GMT
All this talk and noone knows anything, I would like to know who the f**k they are and what is WEALS role in all this. We are all concerned about OUR team but it seems nobody knows what is happening. It is about time we all know something, anything, from the so say owners. I can tell you, this weekend we won't win. We won't lose and we won't draw. |
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Post by baggins on Oct 13, 2023 18:22:18 GMT
All this talk and noone knows anything, I would like to know who the f**k they are and what is WEALS role in all this. We are all concerned about OUR team but it seems nobody knows what is happening. It is about time we all know something, anything, from the so say owners. I can tell you, this weekend we won't win. We won't lose and we won't draw. Source? |
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Post by Kingswood Polak on Oct 14, 2023 6:53:53 GMT
Absolutely, data breaches are a pain in the ass and happen all the time. I’d recommend using password managers like you have and letting your phone / app autogenerate passwords on your behalf. This way every account is disconnected from each other and unless your password manager breaches then losing one in a breach doesn’t mean that those who have them can access everything. But… that’s a whole different world from data breaches coming from the club. Which there does not seem to be evidence of. Happy to reiterate once more that gasburner has not received any data from the club nor has access to any form of personal data held by the club. We wont comment on this further. Not a chance that I signed up with you as I had never even heard of you , not until I read about you, here on gaschat. |
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Post by Kingswood Polak on Oct 14, 2023 8:27:10 GMT
All this talk and noone knows anything, I would like to know who the f**k they are and what is WEALS role in all this. We are all concerned about OUR team but it seems nobody knows what is happening. It is about time we all know something, anything, from the so say owners. Maybe there is nothing to say and especially after the non story by gasburner. The statement by that account , near enough, mimics the content from the club OS, all that was needed was the club is very lucky to have such a person as Wael, which we already know and have read, multiple times. I sent the e-mail to the address that account gave but maybe it’s a bit early to be expecting a reply. Gasheads.org also smell a rat with that account and content. personally, I would rather have an update that says something with substance and i am sure we will hear something in due course. I have stopped expecting updates. This is not the Rovers of old. |
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Post by Kingswood Polak on Oct 14, 2023 8:31:00 GMT
I got both emails and notifications from Apple about data leaks and they helped me to change every password on each site on which it happened. It was not a quick task, one was my bloody bank account. This appears to be a different issue to the accusations you have labelled at us and the club. " i now believe it must have something to do with the club or they would not have access to email addresses. " Once we've received your email we'll be able to tell you if we have your email address on the website data file. I was not directing my reply to you ! I repeat, I never even heard of you up until I read about the twitter/X account, I looked at it but never signed up to your site and the compromised passwords did not include you as I have never signed up to your site. You are clutching at straws I have not accused the club of anything but I find your content disingenuous and not true. I only asked if anyone else had received the same e-mail and did not want to dig further. It seems that you wish to prolong it, that is how I see it. |
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Post by Kingswood Polak on Oct 14, 2023 8:43:01 GMT
I got both emails and notifications from Apple about data leaks and they helped me to change every password on each site on which it happened. It was not a quick task, one was my bloody bank account. Absolutely, data breaches are a pain in the ass and happen all the time. I’d recommend using password managers like you have and letting your phone / app autogenerate passwords on your behalf. This way every account is disconnected from each other and unless your password manager breaches then losing one in a breach doesn’t mean that those who have them can access everything. But… that’s a whole different world from data breaches coming from the club. Which there does not seem to be evidence of. Hi, You are preaching to the choir as the old saying goes. Thanks for the advice but, had I have thought about it then I could have done my own work on the ISP. Surely, now such a fuss has been made from such a simple question, you can see the analogous style, no ? That is me done with this, unless someone directs a question at/for me. This all started with me just asking if anyone else had received the same e-mail, no more |
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Post by yattongas on Oct 14, 2023 8:49:58 GMT
Absolutely, data breaches are a pain in the ass and happen all the time. I’d recommend using password managers like you have and letting your phone / app autogenerate passwords on your behalf. This way every account is disconnected from each other and unless your password manager breaches then losing one in a breach doesn’t mean that those who have them can access everything. But… that’s a whole different world from data breaches coming from the club. Which there does not seem to be evidence of. Hi, You are preaching to the choir as the old saying goes. Thanks for the advice but, had I have thought about it then I could have done my own work on the ISP. Surely, now such a fuss has been made from such a simple question, you can see the analogous style, no ? That is me done with this, unless someone directs a question at/for me. This all started with me just asking if anyone else had received the same e-mail, no more To be fair it’s only you making a song & dance about it . The rest of us just delete unwanted emails. |
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Post by gasburner on Oct 14, 2023 9:15:37 GMT
This appears to be a different issue to the accusations you have labelled at us and the club. " i now believe it must have something to do with the club or they would not have access to email addresses. " Once we've received your email we'll be able to tell you if we have your email address on the website data file. I was not directing my reply to you ! I repeat, I never even heard of you up until I read about the twitter/X account, I looked at it but never signed up to your site and the compromised passwords did not include you as I have never signed up to your site. You are clutching at straws I have not accused the club of anything but I find your content disingenuous and not true. I only asked if anyone else had received the same e-mail and did not want to dig further. It seems that you wish to prolong it, that is how I see it. Hi there, there's really not much I can add to what I previously posted but you said you have sent an email to the address I provided though no email has been recieved. You can try again or use the website contact forms which will be immediately seen as will emails. Regrettably in this thread there are comments which imply I've used illegal practices to obtain email addresses. This is not the case. Should anyone wish to report any concerns I suggest you do so through official channels because words have consequences wherever they are seen and heard. I assure anyone reading this, I'm just a Gashead like you - lifelong. Bristol born and bred. Trying to do positive things. Your opinions on the website are welcomed and heard. I've said all I will say publicly on this. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2023 10:10:15 GMT
All this talk and noone knows anything, I would like to know who the f**k they are and what is WEALS role in all this. We are all concerned about OUR team but it seems nobody knows what is happening. It is about time we all know something, anything, from the so say owners. About? Wheres our new ground, why isn't it finished yet, how much are you worth to the nearest million, what did you have for tea last night, what size shoe are you, the usual obsessive stuff from non shareholders, needing to know the ins and outs of a cats @rse, don't you just love the invention of the internet. |
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Post by gasandelectricity on Oct 14, 2023 10:16:05 GMT
Absolutely, data breaches are a pain in the ass and happen all the time. I’d recommend using password managers like you have and letting your phone / app autogenerate passwords on your behalf. This way every account is disconnected from each other and unless your password manager breaches then losing one in a breach doesn’t mean that those who have them can access everything. But… that’s a whole different world from data breaches coming from the club. Which there does not seem to be evidence of. Hi, You are preaching to the choir as the old saying goes. Thanks for the advice but, had I have thought about it then I could have done my own work on the ISP. Surely, now such a fuss has been made from such a simple question, you can see the analogous style, no ? That is me done with this, unless someone directs a question at/for me. This all started with me just asking if anyone else had received the same e-mail, no more Not really. You progressed to claim that there had been data breaches at the club. Then claim that there had multiple breaches. Not anywhere else but at the club. Then you backtracked and started talking about your passwords being compromised elsewhere to which I agreed using password managers is a good idea - not preaching at you at all but trying to share the information with others to encourage them not to put the same password in many baskets. In the politest way possible, your language implies you don’t really know what you’re talking about when it comes to data security so I think it’s a bit rich to claim the club has been subject to data breaches. And it’s a big accusation to levy because more and more people will be wary of who they put their trust in with their information. So to say the club has lost or misused your information could be damaging to the club. What are you seeking to gain? |
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Post by gasandelectricity on Oct 14, 2023 10:28:07 GMT
To add data breaches can happen because someone with the data does something careless with it and misplaces it, or it can be acquired by hackers.
Hackers will be after financial information or compromising information on individuals that allows them to carry out identity fraud or to find a scoop that allows them to blackmail or embarrass someone they have an agenda against.
They probably don’t want data from little old Bristol Rovers they’ll be going after the likes of big banks and insurers. Not saying we’re risk free or that the information isn’t valuable but we’re probably not worth the effort! The valuable data we’d have is probably actually held by our third parties such as TicketMaster and payment processors for the retail site on our behalf. Which just leaves a list of email addresses and postal addresses of supporters. And what are you going to do with that? Send an email to the support base with an underhand email? Obviously this stuff still has value from an identity theft perspective but again, bigger targets exist if you want that and a lot is already in the public domain.
And if someone at the club has provided the data to someone else then they have broken the law and behaved in an underhand way. That could happen to any organisation. But there is absolutely zero evidence of that having actually happened.
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Post by gassince1957 on Oct 14, 2023 10:50:01 GMT
To add data breaches can happen because someone with the data does something careless with it and misplaces it, or it can be acquired by hackers. Hackers will be after financial information or compromising information on individuals that allows them to carry out identity fraud or to find a scoop that allows them to blackmail or embarrass someone they have an agenda against. They probably don’t want data from little old Bristol Rovers they’ll be going after the likes of big banks and insurers. Not saying we’re risk free or that the information isn’t valuable but we’re probably not worth the effort! The valuable data we’d have is probably actually held by our third parties such as TicketMaster and payment processors for the retail site on our behalf. Which just leaves a list of email addresses and postal addresses of supporters. And what are you going to do with that? Send an email to the support base with an underhand email? Obviously this stuff still has value from an identity theft perspective but again, bigger targets exist if you want that and a lot is already in the public domain. And if someone at the club has provided the data to someone else then they have broken the law and behaved in an underhand way. That could happen to any organisation. But there is absolutely zero evidence of that having actually happened. Meanwhile, can we now get back to moaning about not having full life histories of the new owners, why we don't have grand plans for a new stadium to be opened next year etc. etc. 3 pages about an alleged data breach which seems to have affected only 2 people? Really? |
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Post by Kingswood Polak on Oct 14, 2023 11:14:14 GMT
To add data breaches can happen because someone with the data does something careless with it and misplaces it, or it can be acquired by hackers. Hackers will be after financial information or compromising information on individuals that allows them to carry out identity fraud or to find a scoop that allows them to blackmail or embarrass someone they have an agenda against. They probably don’t want data from little old Bristol Rovers they’ll be going after the likes of big banks and insurers. Not saying we’re risk free or that the information isn’t valuable but we’re probably not worth the effort! The valuable data we’d have is probably actually held by our third parties such as TicketMaster and payment processors for the retail site on our behalf. Which just leaves a list of email addresses and postal addresses of supporters. And what are you going to do with that? Send an email to the support base with an underhand email? Obviously this stuff still has value from an identity theft perspective but again, bigger targets exist if you want that and a lot is already in the public domain. And if someone at the club has provided the data to someone else then they have broken the law and behaved in an underhand way. That could happen to any organisation. But there is absolutely zero evidence of that having actually happened. Meanwhile, can we now get back to moaning about not having full life histories of the new owners, why we don't have grand plans for a new stadium to be opened next year etc. etc. 3 pages about an alleged data breach which seems to have affected only 2 people? Really? Agreed, getting tedious, especially when certain people try to twist your words, i refuse to get drawn into this anymore. Well said mate |
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Post by gashead1981 on Oct 14, 2023 14:01:06 GMT
No one is twisting anything here.
Anyone who reads this thread will see that an accusation was made that gasburner was an inside club account which is the only way they have obtained your email.
You also mention that was the suspicion on gasheads.org and having looked there it’s suspected by Swissgas and Bondi (absolutely no surprises there) who love a good conspiracy theory and BS session about possible things going on at Rovers.
It was then alleged that gasburner had obtained data surreptitiously somehow and that’s how you received “that” email.
It’s been put to you by gasburner that he hasn’t obtained anything and offered to look into it if you give him your email or to contact wix, the host of the gasburner site, not once, but 3 times.
But rather than take him up on the offer you continue to maintain or imply gasburner of some skullduggery. Why?
Gasburner, as much as I find the whole TG/interview episode very odd, seems to be a legit bloke and is being as transparent as he can possibly be, and yet, here we are, with a thread with a supposed IT web fraud specialist making it all about him!
I’m not sure whether you’re attention seeking, causing trouble or just using this as another way of trying to discredit the club?
Whatever, you’re making life a bit hard for gasburner here, somewhat unnecessarily it has to be said.
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