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Post by Quarters on Oct 26, 2023 20:49:46 GMT
I have zero confidence that we’ll appoint anyone with any pedigree , genuinely worried now , Love him or hate him Barton has decent connections within the game and attracted some good young players. Really feel down about his sacking. Good young players on loan. He signed Gordon, Connolly and Macca but looks like he did not want to play them much this season. Taylor is playing, Hoole is back up and other youngsters are out on loan. Where is the good young striker? |
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Post by purdownpoacher1 on Oct 26, 2023 20:50:06 GMT
There's Rovers fans and there's Barton fans i guess. I'm glad he's gone, I had such high hopes but he just didn't deliver I’ve been a Barton fan whilst he was Rovers manager. Now he’s gone I don’t give a stuff what he does next and won’t follow his career. I’m probably still regarded as a member of his fan club or a fanboy though 🤷♂️ Well, I am a Barton fan, wish him every success for the future! 💙Utg |
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Post by purdownpoacher1 on Oct 26, 2023 20:51:53 GMT
Big mistake getting rid of JB. It's not his fault that he has a whole team of injured players. It's just bloody bad luck. It will probably bite us on the backside. Serve the owners right if that happens ! 💙 |
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Oct 26, 2023 20:52:47 GMT
True, but he isn't the only one. There are decent candidates out there with their own recruitment strategy and connections. For all Barton's connections, how do we know there are or were some that preferred not to deal with him? Just hypothesising.. It's easy to get lured into the remorse syndrome.. I see what you’re saying and totally understand. Just feel like the decision to sack Barton was a tad knee jerk for my liking , don’t get me wrong recent performances haven’t been great but we have players out injured and I thought he’d be given more time as he had a shaky start in our promotion season and we all know how that ended , I just want us to do well but am sick of constantly taking forward strides and taking numerous steps back. I think if you consult the more mature within the clan, they will say (for the most part) a long time it was thus so... Yep, probably knee jerk reaction. When you consider he couldn't sign and keep fit an experienced central defender or a striker in his tenure, when you need both in this division as a minimum, you're starting to dig yourself a hole. He had numerous transfer windows. The upside is we will have time to recruit, so no need for knee jerk appointments, and newbie will have time to assess the squad and formulate a plan for transfer window. |
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Post by warehamgas on Oct 26, 2023 20:52:55 GMT
Well wasn't expecting that. Joey Barton has been sacked. Where do we go from here? Yes I get that but he wasn’t unsackable was he? It’s football and surprising sackings have occurred a few times in the past month. Neil Harris at Gillingham, Rowett at Millwall, Eustace at Birmingham and even Kennedy, the Lincoln manager going were all surprises not based on results. More a case of the owners showing they can do what they like, changing direction, style of football, calling players out publicly or whatever. Football is strange. Watching the Stevenage match looked, to me, that JB and the team were lethargic as if something had happened. So in the end I thought that something was building up. So yes, like you, I am surprised but in a way not really. He did 2 and a half years as manager, which is well above average. It’s been many years since the days of Bert Tann and having a manager for over 20 years. Will be interesting to see the back story of this which comes out in the next week or so. Presumably the EP will now be talking again to the club with JB gone so we should learn more. UTG! |
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Post by 84gas on Oct 26, 2023 20:53:06 GMT
JCH more or less likely?
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Post by RD on Oct 26, 2023 20:57:15 GMT
Less. And quite glad tbh. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Oct 26, 2023 21:03:13 GMT
True, but he isn't the only one. There are decent candidates out there with their own recruitment strategy and connections. For all Barton's connections, how do we know there are or were some that preferred not to deal with him? Just hypothesising.. It's easy to get lured into the remorse syndrome.. I see what you’re saying and totally understand. Just feel like the decision to sack Barton was a tad knee jerk for my liking , don’t get me wrong recent performances haven’t been great but we have players out injured and I thought he’d be given more time as he had a shaky start in our promotion season and we all know how that ended , I just want us to do well but am sick of constantly taking forward strides and taking numerous steps back. We don't really know what finally led to the owners firing JB, perhaps it was his needless outburst after Tuesday game, why he had to insult Evans is beyond me. If he was on a final warning that could have been enough to sack him with reduced or even no compensation. |
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Post by seanclevedongas on Oct 26, 2023 21:04:14 GMT
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Post by warehamgas on Oct 26, 2023 21:04:31 GMT
Strange all the back room staff remain, think there is more to this then results. I can’t imagine that’ll be a long term thing. The back room staff remain but for how long? They are all closely linked with JB but it was only JB that was sacked. Had Rovers sacked his acolytes I suppose the club would have had to pay them up. If they choose to resign and follow JB that will be up to them but Rovers wouldn’t be liable. Would they? Depends I suppose on the fine print in their contracts. UTG! |
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Post by okebournegas83 on Oct 26, 2023 21:04:46 GMT
I see what you’re saying and totally understand. Just feel like the decision to sack Barton was a tad knee jerk for my liking , don’t get me wrong recent performances haven’t been great but we have players out injured and I thought he’d be given more time as he had a shaky start in our promotion season and we all know how that ended , I just want us to do well but am sick of constantly taking forward strides and taking numerous steps back. I think if you consult the more mature within the clan, they will say (for the most part) a long time it was thus so... Yep, probably knee jerk reaction. When you consider he couldn't sign and keep fit an experienced central defender or a striker in his tenure, when you need both in this division as a minimum, you're starting to dig yourself a hole. He had numerous transfer windows. The upside is we will have time to recruit, so no need for knee jerk appointments, and newbie will have time to assess the squad and formulate a plan for transfer window. Fair comments my friend , fingers crossed ! |
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Post by garystash on Oct 26, 2023 21:05:05 GMT
True, but he isn't the only one. There are decent candidates out there with their own recruitment strategy and connections. For all Barton's connections, how do we know there are or were some that preferred not to deal with him? Just hypothesising.. It's easy to get lured into the remorse syndrome.. There may be someone with good lower League connections out there who knows just the right gem to turn into a profit turning player. DC used to boast that he made money or at least broke even over all on his transfer business. It's been a few years since any Rovers manager has looked like turning a profit on any player we've had. I'm sure many would like DC back, but not for me. Did a great job for us, but has yet to be proven above L2. Although effective in non-league and L2, I personally found the football to be slow and unexciting. As for turning profit, I think we could have cashed in on Collins and Evans in the last two seasons. The club have been able to keep hold of them though. |
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Post by RD on Oct 26, 2023 21:05:28 GMT
I see what you’re saying and totally understand. Just feel like the decision to sack Barton was a tad knee jerk for my liking , don’t get me wrong recent performances haven’t been great but we have players out injured and I thought he’d be given more time as he had a shaky start in our promotion season and we all know how that ended , I just want us to do well but am sick of constantly taking forward strides and taking numerous steps back. We don't really know what finally led to the owners firing JB, perhaps it was his needless outburst after Tuesday game, why he had to insult Evans is beyond me. If he was on a final warning that could have been enough to sack him with reduced or even no compensation. With the owners seemingly very private people, I can't imagine they were fans of the recent astonishing outbursts on both LT and Evans. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2023 21:08:04 GMT
I can’t imagine that’ll be a long term thing. The back room staff remain but for how long? They are all closely linked with JB but it was only JB that was sacked. Had Rovers sacked his acolytes I suppose the club would have had to pay them up. If they choose to resign and follow JB that will be up to them but Rovers wouldn’t be liable. Would they? Depends I suppose on the fine print in their contracts. UTG! Well if they’d sacked them all today there’d be nobody to take Saturdays game! A new coach/manager usually wants their own team in place. |
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Post by purdownpoacher1 on Oct 26, 2023 21:12:18 GMT
Couldn’t care less at this moment in time ! ☹️ |
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Post by purdownpoacher1 on Oct 26, 2023 21:13:43 GMT
Hard not to be touched by Joey’s statement. My thoughts after reading his statement was: Is it Gas Head or Gashead? Maybe Joey didn't really get us after all. Oh he did !!!! 💙utg |
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Post by purdownpoacher1 on Oct 26, 2023 21:16:21 GMT
I’m both surprised and sad about this. I’ve only seen three league games this season, in two of which (Charlton and Port Vale) we played pretty well. Stevenage was pretty grim but the players never let their heads drop and I’ve seen us play much worse. I thought he would get to the end of the season in charge, absent six defeats on the bounce or similar. I hope the owners have someone good in mind. I very much doubt that ! 💙 |
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Post by gasify on Oct 26, 2023 21:27:39 GMT
The opposite of what you are saying is: We have spent more than most Managers. We have assembled the best squad You are happy that the return is being closer to relegation than promotion. "so we are now a club that can just sack managers because we aren't at the top" Maybe, maybe not. However, we are definitely the kind of club that can sack a manager who has returned 1.23 points per game withe the best squad and highest wage bill we have ever had. We currently sit 5 points away from relegation and 7 points away from the playoffs. Having points closer to playoffs than relegation is an absolute must. We have 1 or 2 games in hand over teams above us. 33 games left in the season. We have no games in hand on the teams below us. Games in hand mean bugger all. |
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Post by piedpiper on Oct 26, 2023 21:27:48 GMT
This decision isn’t purely on football reasons.
Let’s hope the grass is greener.
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Post by warehamgas on Oct 26, 2023 21:29:46 GMT
Poor timing, joeys players, team not exactly full of the type of player ready to battle either. Could end very badly Perhaps but I’m pretty sure they weren’t playing for him on Tuesday night. UTG! |
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