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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Oct 27, 2023 15:06:23 GMT
Who said I'm a hater? It's embarrassing to start a petition to get a manager back for us who was mediocre. Makes us look tinpot. But according to most we are tinpot 🤷🏽♀️ More tinpot then 😁
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Post by gasify on Oct 27, 2023 15:10:26 GMT
That's hilarious. I suggest it's the other way round and only 5% of fans wanted him to stay. Like many areas of modern life it’s the minority making most of the noise and getting carried away with their perceptions of self importance. I’ve seen lots of managers sacked (both at Rovers and elsewhere) and in most cases there is a gradual growing and vocal expression of dissatisfaction towards the manager. Those attending games are the most important and I didn’t sense 95% of the crowd were demanding his sacking. On Tuesday night, I never had the sense that 95% of the crowd still backed him. On the Thatchers where I stand, there was serious discontent with the manager and the way we were playing. "Haven't a clue", "Time is up" was mentioned more than once by different people around me. Were you at the game on Tuesday? The atmosphere was a shocker. The first half especially. Maybe it was halloween atmosphere? The place was more like a grave yard.
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Post by gasify on Oct 27, 2023 15:33:32 GMT
I completely get what you are saying. My comment was a flippant response to a ridiculous comment that was based on nothing but the posters emotional bias towards JB. As a Centrist, are you happy with any manager assembling the best squad (and most expensive wage bill) ever and returning 1.23 pts per game this season? The really interesting thing is, remove the name JB and I think any manager in that situation would be sacked. Remove the name JB and most of the fan base would be unhappy with that return and calling for the owners to do something before its too late. And for what did he do for the club. As a centrist, what do you think he did? To answer your questions, I wouldn't say I'm happy with the points return, but I think there are enough extenuating circumstances and enough credit in the bank, and signs, that we could have turned it around once players returned from injury and we clicked a bit more. I think it's too early to sack him on footballing terms, and hiring someone else is a big gamble. That's regardless of the name JB or not, I'd say the same about any manager and I certainly don't have blind faith in Barton, I just favour stability, the lack of which 3 years ago saw us go from an established L1 club to a basket case in less than 18 months. What do I think he did for the club? He certainly sorted out what was a dire track record of recruitment, and improved playing standards across the board, and did what many others struggle to do in reality and got us straight back up and kept us back in L1 pretty easily. Sadly his in-game tactical knowledge was what was lacking more often than not. There always have to be a time when the trigger has to be pulled. The points return and form this season hasn't been good enough. The credit in the bank ran out between Jan 23 and May 23.
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Post by gassedOut on Oct 27, 2023 15:39:56 GMT
I have been in and out of this thread and had a look back but has anyone mentioned the rumour of JB and a couple of players having a bit of a skirmish after the game Tuesday? rumours are the Anthony Evans may have been on the wrong end of a JB head loss! (only a Rumour but Timing Fits)
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Post by aghast on Oct 27, 2023 16:26:54 GMT
Good heavens. Embarrassing. Over 5000 on Instagram have thanked Joey, the haters on here are in the minority. I suppose you must therefore feel that the new owners are Barton haters then? We don't know much about them, but we do know that they, not a few posters on gaschat, sacked Barton.
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Oct 27, 2023 16:50:19 GMT
Over 5000 on Instagram have thanked Joey, the haters on here are in the minority. I suppose you must therefore feel that the new owners are Barton haters then? We don't know much about them, but we do know that they, not a few posters on gaschat, sacked Barton. Unless Mariobalotelli is the new owner? Has anyone seen them both in the same room?
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Post by Topper Gas on Oct 27, 2023 16:52:56 GMT
I have been in and out of this thread and had a look back but has anyone mentioned the rumour of JB and a couple of players having a bit of a skirmish after the game Tuesday? rumours are the Anthony Evans may have been on the wrong end of a JB head loss! (only a Rumour but Timing Fits) Anthony Evans is one of a handful of players who had "liked" JB's Insta post about "Gas Heads" yesterday? Although the wording in the club statement seems a bit odd to me "relieved First Team Manager Joey Barton of his duties." why not just say he's been dismissed?
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Post by bidefordgas on Oct 27, 2023 16:59:14 GMT
I have been in and out of this thread and had a look back but has anyone mentioned the rumour of JB and a couple of players having a bit of a skirmish after the game Tuesday? rumours are the Anthony Evans may have been on the wrong end of a JB head loss! (only a Rumour but Timing Fits) Anthony Evans is one of a handful of players who had "liked" JB's Insta post about "Gas Heads" yesterday? Although the wording in the club statement seems a bit odd to me "relieved First Team Manager Joey Barton of his duties." why not just say he's been dismissed? The majority of clubs use the same statement when sacking managers. We’re no different, I think they do it to portray a caring attitude.
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Post by chelios on Oct 27, 2023 17:18:44 GMT
AM’s press comments very revealing. Twice mentioned showing people what our culture is really like. This was clearly referenced to him as to why Barton has gone, either through the hierarchy or from JB himself.
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Post by eric on Oct 27, 2023 17:43:28 GMT
Like many areas of modern life it’s the minority making most of the noise and getting carried away with their perceptions of self importance. I’ve seen lots of managers sacked (both at Rovers and elsewhere) and in most cases there is a gradual growing and vocal expression of dissatisfaction towards the manager. Those attending games are the most important and I didn’t sense 95% of the crowd were demanding his sacking. On Tuesday night, I never had the sense that 95% of the crowd still backed him. On the Thatchers where I stand, there was serious discontent with the manager and the way we were playing. "Haven't a clue", "Time is up" was mentioned more than once by different people around me. Were you at the game on Tuesday? The atmosphere was a shocker. The first half especially. Maybe it was halloween atmosphere? The place was more like a grave yard. Atmosphere wasn’t great but not often is when we are losing - nothing hostile towards the manager where I was stood on the West Terrace and nothing last year when I was stood on the East. Like I said if 95% of the crowd wanted him out I’d have expected choruses of boo’s towards him and chants of Barton Out but nothing.
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Post by Colyton Gas on Oct 27, 2023 17:50:30 GMT
I have been in and out of this thread and had a look back but has anyone mentioned the rumour of JB and a couple of players having a bit of a skirmish after the game Tuesday? rumours are the Anthony Evans may have been on the wrong end of a JB head loss! (only a Rumour but Timing Fits) Anthony Evans is one of a handful of players who had "liked" JB's Insta post about "Gas Heads" yesterday? Although the wording in the club statement seems a bit odd to me "relieved First Team Manager Joey Barton of his duties." why not just say he's been dismissed? Unlike you Topper they don't want to seem un caring and the euphemism is perhaps less veracious.
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Post by gasify on Oct 27, 2023 17:52:30 GMT
On Tuesday night, I never had the sense that 95% of the crowd still backed him. On the Thatchers where I stand, there was serious discontent with the manager and the way we were playing. "Haven't a clue", "Time is up" was mentioned more than once by different people around me. Were you at the game on Tuesday? The atmosphere was a shocker. The first half especially. Maybe it was halloween atmosphere? The place was more like a grave yard. Atmosphere wasn’t great but not often is when we are losing - nothing hostile towards the manager where I was stood on the West Terrace and nothing last year when I was stood on the East. Like I said if 95% of the crowd wanted him out I’d have expected choruses of boo’s towards him and chants of Barton Out but nothing. I think everyone was stunned as to how rubbish we were. They scored in the 40th minute. We weren't losing for 40 minutes yet the atmosphere was dead at that time. On the back of the defeat against Burton, we expected the players to ho out there and make amends. They didn't. In the second half Harvey Vale came on and was up for it.
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Post by eric on Oct 27, 2023 17:58:28 GMT
Atmosphere wasn’t great but not often is when we are losing - nothing hostile towards the manager where I was stood on the West Terrace and nothing last year when I was stood on the East. Like I said if 95% of the crowd wanted him out I’d have expected choruses of boo’s towards him and chants of Barton Out but nothing. I think everyone was stunned as to how rubbish we were. They scored in the 40th minute. We weren't losing for 40 minutes yet the atmosphere was dead at that time. On the back of the defeat against Burton, we expected the players to ho out there and make amends. They didn't. In the second half Harvey Vale came on and was up for it. I think it’s a big leap to go from a flat atmosphere to a vast majority of the crowd demanding the managers sacking. I haven’t missed a game at the Mem and just haven’t heard anyone on a matchday shouting for the manager to go.
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Post by gasify on Oct 27, 2023 18:03:14 GMT
I think everyone was stunned as to how rubbish we were. They scored in the 40th minute. We weren't losing for 40 minutes yet the atmosphere was dead at that time. On the back of the defeat against Burton, we expected the players to ho out there and make amends. They didn't. In the second half Harvey Vale came on and was up for it. I think it’s a big leap to go from a flat atmosphere to a vast majority of the crowd demanding the managers sacking. I haven’t missed a game at the Mem and just haven’t heard anyone on a matchday shouting for the manager to go. You may have missed this post: gaschat.co.uk/post/956741
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Post by gashead1981 on Oct 27, 2023 18:10:16 GMT
On Tuesday night, I never had the sense that 95% of the crowd still backed him. On the Thatchers where I stand, there was serious discontent with the manager and the way we were playing. "Haven't a clue", "Time is up" was mentioned more than once by different people around me. Were you at the game on Tuesday? The atmosphere was a shocker. The first half especially. Maybe it was halloween atmosphere? The place was more like a grave yard. Atmosphere wasn’t great but not often is when we are losing - nothing hostile towards the manager where I was stood on the West Terrace and nothing last year when I was stood on the East. Like I said if 95% of the crowd wanted him out I’d have expected choruses of boo’s towards him and chants of Barton Out but nothing. There were plenty of boos on Tuesday, both at half and full time. Not an ear splitting boo, that everyone wanted him out, but attendances are down by 1500 or so anyway. That tells you something too.
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Post by Topper Gas on Oct 27, 2023 18:11:02 GMT
I think it’s a big leap to go from a flat atmosphere to a vast majority of the crowd demanding the managers sacking. I haven’t missed a game at the Mem and just haven’t heard anyone on a matchday shouting for the manager to go. You may have missed this post: gaschat.co.uk/post/956741Pretty pointless saying what would fans think if it wasn't JB, you could say would DC have been tolerated for so long before he was dismissed if he wasn't DC, the fact is he was JB and the vast majority of fans on Tuesday night weren't calling for him to be dismissed, as they did with Buckle in the past. Unlike DC's leaving it seems most fans were surprised JB wasn't at least given until this weekend's game. Although none of us really know why he was dismissed, was it purely on results or something else he did to upset the new owners.
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Post by Dirt Dogg on Oct 27, 2023 18:12:17 GMT
Anthony Evans is one of a handful of players who had "liked" JB's Insta post about "Gas Heads" yesterday? Although the wording in the club statement seems a bit odd to me "relieved First Team Manager Joey Barton of his duties." why not just say he's been dismissed? The majority of clubs use the same statement when sacking managers. We’re no different, I think they do it to portray a caring attitude. Miss the days of managers being put on ‘gardening leave’
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Post by eastgas on Oct 27, 2023 18:28:39 GMT
Not sure how I feel about the sacking in all honesty. We can shout about wether we think it’s the right or wrong decision but only time will tell. I get the feeling we may see someone in house take over. Maybe whelans first go in management?
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Post by olskooltoteender on Oct 27, 2023 18:36:01 GMT
Atmosphere wasn’t great but not often is when we are losing - nothing hostile towards the manager where I was stood on the West Terrace and nothing last year when I was stood on the East. Like I said if 95% of the crowd wanted him out I’d have expected choruses of boo’s towards him and chants of Barton Out but nothing. There were plenty of boos on Tuesday, both at half and full time. Not an ear splitting boo, that everyone wanted him out, but attendances are down by 1500 or so anyway. That tells you something too. I was on the East terrace tues night with my kids, and I’m pretty sure that the half-time booing was aimed at the officials.
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Post by jerrythegas on Oct 27, 2023 18:38:32 GMT
It's a good job we didn't all boycott the club when Joey got appointed or we would not have no club to support....have you thought of that?
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