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Post by gasify on Nov 18, 2023 23:26:26 GMT
Thanks Pirate. It is the same interview but the BBC version is longer than the Rovers video version (which is a bit weird). www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p0gpdlw8?partner=uk.co.bbc&origin=share-mobileAt 12:40 the question is asked whether it will be an all seated stadium. He says keep the standing our fans are used to it. However he then says keep "some of it". So, yes there will be standing at the ground once it has been developed. However, I wouldn't be expecting the same amount of standing as there is now. I get the idea that the Thatchers could have safe standing and then a section built on top that would hold seats. However, the residents behind the Thatchers won't be very happy with that as it is likely to obstruct their view over Lockleaze and the radio tower. The complaints for the South Stand was it was unsightly. The loss of a view may well have more weight from a planning perspective than just unsightly. Maybe one of the planning experts on here could add something? *Edit It is also mentioned that the BBC has requested two interviews and they received two interviews. Maybe this was a bit of a 'dig' at Wael? I don't think there would be much problem with the North Terrace and views. In the planning meeting for the South Stand one of the councillors said that he was on the panel for the last revamp of the Mem when student accommodation was part of it and was a much bigger stadium plan and they passed that so couldn't turn down the South Stand. If they pass planning on those bases and we go about it the right way there really is no issue. 🤞
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Post by gasify on Nov 18, 2023 23:34:28 GMT
'Worst case scenario'?.Really? We are now 4 points off the playoffs and Mangs has had a dream start. Maybe not the best possible manager available in the whole football league, but worst case??? 🤷 AM's had a fairly easy run of fixtures, unless JB had really lost the plot, or the changing room, he could have well got similar results. It'll be interesting to see how we perform and also what result we get at Derby, who I assume will now want to make amends for the Crewe result, then the following Saturday we have a tough looking cup game. I can't understand the owner saying they want to basically appoint somebody with Karl Robinson's experience then appointing somebody with none! Although KB returning always pointed towards AM getting the job. Derby took 4 points off us last season, beating us 4-2 up there. Anything better than a 4-2 would be an improvement.
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Post by TAGas on Nov 19, 2023 8:02:14 GMT
In the betting, doesn't the next "Permanent Manager" mean in charge of the next 10 consecutive games? So as long as Mangan does that you win the bet?
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Post by Topper Gas on Nov 19, 2023 9:46:55 GMT
AM's had a fairly easy run of fixtures, unless JB had really lost the plot, or the changing room, he could have well got similar results. It'll be interesting to see how we perform and also what result we get at Derby, who I assume will now want to make amends for the Crewe result, then the following Saturday we have a tough looking cup game. I can't understand the owner saying they want to basically appoint somebody with Karl Robinson's experience then appointing somebody with none! Although KB returning always pointed towards AM getting the job. Derby took 4 points off us last season, beating us 4-2 up there. Anything better than a 4-2 would be an improvement. So you'd be happy with a 1-0 defeat? if we are going to break into the top 6 then we've got to start getting results at their grounds, we've only ever really done that under GC in recent seasons.
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Post by mftc on Nov 19, 2023 10:11:57 GMT
A few weeks ago I would not have really considered Mangan, but he appears well liked by the players, which sometimes can be half the battle.
Results have been very good, although performances have not been great.
For me the reintroduction of Kevin Bond is a massive positive step. With a few more weeks on the training ground hopefully we should see a more solid backline.
With a wealth of experience and his own contacts, Bond would be a great no 2 to assist Mangs, if the board are to go down that route.
If the season was to peter out, I can see Mangs using the last few games to give an opportunity to some of the youngsters to try and build for the future.
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Post by gasify on Nov 19, 2023 10:24:43 GMT
Derby took 4 points off us last season, beating us 4-2 up there. Anything better than a 4-2 would be an improvement. So you'd be happy with a 1-0 defeat? if we are going to break into the top 6 then we've got to start getting results at their grounds, we've only ever really done that under GC in recent seasons. Of course I wouldn't want us to lose. However a 1-0 defeat does show progress year on year. I'd certainly take a point right now.
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Post by nickchippenhamgas on Nov 19, 2023 10:26:14 GMT
With the greatest of respects to AM appointing him would be a typical small club mentality which I thought we were trying to shake off? To appoint AM is to confirm he has the credentials outlined by the new owner, well does he? No Also what’s his standing in the upper echelons of the game? Say what you like about JB but he did have lots of contacts in the game, which is what’s needed to raise us to where we want to be. The gas are undoubtedly potentially a big club capable of competing in the top two divisions, look at clubs like Bournemouth and Brentford before you laugh at what I’ve just written. Hopefully AM gets a senior position within the new managers team, but for me it will be a backward step and at odds with the new owners rhetoric. Utg
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Post by Topper Gas on Nov 19, 2023 11:08:02 GMT
With the greatest of respects to AM appointing him would be a typical small club mentality which I thought we were trying to shake off? To appoint AM is to confirm he has the credentials outlined by the new owner, well does he? No Also what’s his standing in the upper echelons of the game? Say what you like about JB but he did have lots of contacts in the game, which is what’s needed to raise us to where we want to be. The gas are undoubtedly potentially a big club capable of competing in the top two divisions, look at clubs like Bournemouth and Brentford before you laugh at what I’ve just written. Hopefully AM gets a senior position within the new managers team, but for me it will be a backward step and at odds with the new owners rhetoric. Utg Lincoln and Oxford have gone for a couple of obscure appointments, I doubt they are worrying about raising their profile rather than picking the best man for the job.
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Post by Topper Gas on Nov 19, 2023 11:08:59 GMT
A few weeks ago I would not have really considered Mangan, but he appears well liked by the players, which sometimes can be half the battle. Results have been very good, although performances have not been great. For me the reintroduction of Kevin Bond is a massive positive step. With a few more weeks on the training ground hopefully we should see a more solid backline. With a wealth of experience and his own contacts, Bond would be a great no 2 to assist Mangs, if the board are to go down that route. If the season was to peter out, I can see Mangs using the last few games to give an opportunity to some of the youngsters to try and build for the future. If we're not pushing for a top 10 place or better I can see Mangan leaving not worrying about giving youngsters game time.
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Post by Topper Gas on Nov 19, 2023 11:10:18 GMT
So you'd be happy with a 1-0 defeat? if we are going to break into the top 6 then we've got to start getting results at their grounds, we've only ever really done that under GC in recent seasons. Of course I wouldn't want us to lose. However a 1-0 defeat does show progress year on year. I'd certainly take a point right now. Only a 1 goal aggregate improvement, and Derby are probably weaker this season as last season they seemed to be in the top 6 all season.
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Post by Marshy on Nov 19, 2023 11:11:44 GMT
With the greatest of respects to AM appointing him would be a typical small club mentality which I thought we were trying to shake off? To appoint AM is to confirm he has the credentials outlined by the new owner, well does he? No Also what’s his standing in the upper echelons of the game? Say what you like about JB but he did have lots of contacts in the game, which is what’s needed to raise us to where we want to be. The gas are undoubtedly potentially a big club capable of competing in the top two divisions, look at clubs like Bournemouth and Brentford before you laugh at what I’ve just written. Hopefully AM gets a senior position within the new managers team, but for me it will be a backward step and at odds with the new owners rhetoric. Utg You can add Luton to that list, Blackpool also made it to the promised land but it didn’t last long. We’re/ are those clubs any bigger than us?
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Post by nickchippenhamgas on Nov 19, 2023 11:12:19 GMT
With the greatest of respects to AM appointing him would be a typical small club mentality which I thought we were trying to shake off? To appoint AM is to confirm he has the credentials outlined by the new owner, well does he? No Also what’s his standing in the upper echelons of the game? Say what you like about JB but he did have lots of contacts in the game, which is what’s needed to raise us to where we want to be. The gas are undoubtedly potentially a big club capable of competing in the top two divisions, look at clubs like Bournemouth and Brentford before you laugh at what I’ve just written. Hopefully AM gets a senior position within the new managers team, but for me it will be a backward step and at odds with the new owners rhetoric. Utg Lincoln and Oxford have gone for a couple of obscure appointments, I doubt they are worrying about raising their profile rather than picking the best man for the job. Agree about the right man for the job, AM in my opinion isn’t
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Post by Russgas on Nov 19, 2023 11:12:42 GMT
So how do managers ever start anywhere if you don't give them a chance ? Somebody somewhere gave monk a chance,the same with Robinson. It's not rocket science managing a football team,half of it is all about building a great unity and team spirit in the dressing room and from what i see he is well on his way already,he has already changed our shape and style of play,but these things need time to bed in,he has a slightly better than average squad available to him atm and with 2 or 3 additions and some movement the other way in January who knows.. we might just be dark horses. To change it now would be disruptive and a gamble,the most sensible approach imo would be to offer him the deal until the end of the season and see how it plays out.
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Post by pucklegas on Nov 19, 2023 11:22:39 GMT
Listening to David Dein deciding on changing a manager, he raises these points, do the players want to play for him, and are there better options available?
Well the players seem to like Mangers, and as we haven't been present at the interviews, who knows, but I hope we give him to the end of the season.
As another poster has mentioned, seems like Gary Thompson all over again!
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Post by playtowin on Nov 19, 2023 11:26:48 GMT
Giving a manager a 6 month contract shows you have doubts about their ability.
If you are confident a person is the right person for the job you should offer them a 2 or 3 year deal.
So give AM a 3 year deal or get someone else in. 6 months is weak leadership.
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Post by gasandelectricity on Nov 19, 2023 11:27:10 GMT
So how do managers ever start anywhere if you don't give them a chance ? Somebody somewhere gave monk a chance,the same with Robinson. It's not rocket science managing a football team,half of it is all about building a great unity and team spirit in the dressing room and from what i see he is well on his way already,he has already changed our shape and style of play,but these things need time to bed in,he has a slightly better than average squad available to him atm and with 2 or 3 additions and some movement the other way in January who knows.. we might just be dark horses. To change it now would be disruptive and a gamble,the most sensible approach imo would be to offer him the deal until the end of the season and see how it plays out. Agree, use the money we'd have spent otherwise on getting a decent director of football in to help him out. I actually think Ollie would be a great should if he would be game for it.
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Post by Russgas on Nov 19, 2023 11:41:56 GMT
Giving a manager a 6 month contract shows you have doubts about their ability. If you are confident a person is the right person for the job you should offer them a 2 or 3 year deal. So give AM a 3 year deal or get someone else in. 6 months is weak leadership. You can offer them a 6 month deal as a chance to prove themselves and why not ? If it works out they know they will be in a good position to then re-negotiate a better/longer deal. 👍
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Post by bluecamel on Nov 19, 2023 11:43:57 GMT
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Post by Quarters on Nov 19, 2023 12:04:13 GMT
So how do managers ever start anywhere if you don't give them a chance ? Somebody somewhere gave monk a chance,the same with Robinson. It's not rocket science managing a football team,half of it is all about building a great unity and team spirit in the dressing room and from what i see he is well on his way already,he has already changed our shape and style of play,but these things need time to bed in,he has a slightly better than average squad available to him atm and with 2 or 3 additions and some movement the other way in January who knows.. we might just be dark horses. To change it now would be disruptive and a gamble,the most sensible approach imo would be to offer him the deal until the end of the season and see how it plays out. Agree, use the money we'd have spent otherwise on getting a decent director of football in to help him out. I actually think Ollie would be a great should if he would be game for it. Do not believe Ollie would make a DOF he is all about what is happening on the pitch.
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Post by stuart1974 on Nov 19, 2023 12:11:03 GMT
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