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Post by phillistine on Nov 19, 2023 12:11:24 GMT
In the betting, doesn't the next "Permanent Manager" mean in charge of the next 10 consecutive games? So as long as Mangan does that you win the bet? That wont be the case as he has never signed a contract to be manager or been assigned the job description. He has taken over the handling of the players but there should be more to the job that just that or the guy would be head coach rather than manager
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Post by gasandelectricity on Nov 19, 2023 12:16:01 GMT
I think they will interview Taylor next week with an eye on next Saturday being the decision making result 🧐 I think you're a little bit behind, there were tweets following on from that suggesting that he feels it's too soon to be going back into management.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2023 12:32:37 GMT
This journo is full of crap
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Post by Topper Gas on Nov 19, 2023 12:41:58 GMT
So how do managers ever start anywhere if you don't give them a chance ? Somebody somewhere gave monk a chance,the same with Robinson. It's not rocket science managing a football team,half of it is all about building a great unity and team spirit in the dressing room and from what i see he is well on his way already,he has already changed our shape and style of play,but these things need time to bed in,he has a slightly better than average squad available to him atm and with 2 or 3 additions and some movement the other way in January who knows.. we might just be dark horses. To change it now would be disruptive and a gamble,the most sensible approach imo would be to offer him the deal until the end of the season and see how it plays out. Agree, use the money we'd have spent otherwise on getting a decent director of football in to help him out. I actually think Ollie would be a great should if he would be game for it. I couldn't think of somebody worse as a DOF as he wouldn't be able to keep his motor mouth shut and would want to run the whole show.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Nov 19, 2023 12:47:23 GMT
This journo is full of crap Agree on that, he just seems to be purely guessing. 2 weeks ago we were getting Holden and City were getting Eustace.
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Post by gasheadontour on Nov 19, 2023 12:51:19 GMT
As another poster has mentioned, seems like Gary Thompson all over again! when in L1 a manager was lined up in advance of GT leaving the post. Roy Kinnear was asked and would have joined but he had already agreed to another job (Luton then in L2). Therefore GT continued until Gerry Francis sorted things out leaving QPR. On the night we were relegated to L2 I was told GF would be returning. The hope had been for GT to keep Rovers in L1 ready for GF.
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Post by playtowin on Nov 19, 2023 12:59:43 GMT
Giving a manager a 6 month contract shows you have doubts about their ability. If you are confident a person is the right person for the job you should offer them a 2 or 3 year deal. So give AM a 3 year deal or get someone else in. 6 months is weak leadership. You can offer them a 6 month deal as a chance to prove themselves and why not ? If it works out they know they will be in a good position to then re-negotiate a better/longer deal. 👍 Every new manager has to prove themselves. You either have faith in someones abilities or not. Especially if that person has been at the club several years already. The only way i could tolerate AM getting a 6 month deal was if the club announced a new manager would be leaving his current post and join us in the summer. Anything else is weak leadership (simply in my point of view of course).
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Post by Topper Gas on Nov 19, 2023 13:11:07 GMT
You can offer them a 6 month deal as a chance to prove themselves and why not ? If it works out they know they will be in a good position to then re-negotiate a better/longer deal. 👍 Every new manager has to prove themselves. You either have faith in someones abilities or not. Especially if that person has been at the club several years already. The only way i could tolerate AM getting a 6 month deal was if the club announced a new manager would be leaving his current post and join us in the summer. Anything else is weak leadership (simply in my point of view of course). Effectively writing off the rest of this season is even weaker management! Whatever length of contract the club announces will probably have built in performance targets the new manager will have to meet, or risk getting dismissed early.
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Post by gasify on Nov 19, 2023 13:27:06 GMT
Of course I wouldn't want us to lose. However a 1-0 defeat does show progress year on year. I'd certainly take a point right now. Only a 1 goal aggregate improvement, and Derby are probably weaker this season as last season they seemed to be in the top 6 all season.
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Post by peterhooper57 on Nov 19, 2023 13:34:48 GMT
Agree, use the money we'd have spent otherwise on getting a decent director of football in to help him out. I actually think Ollie would be a great should if he would be game for it. I couldn't think of somebody worse as a DOF as he wouldn't be able to keep his motor mouth shut and would want to run the whole show. I just do not understand how any Gashead would chose to disrespect Ian Holloway, who in his pomp was arguably one of the best, if not the best creative midfield player to ever wear the quarters.
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Post by Gassy on Nov 19, 2023 13:44:26 GMT
I’m open to Mangan, but I’ll admit that I wouldn’t be overly excited.
But then I’ve just been thinking, who were the assistants here that took over as manager?
Trollope (kinda), DC & GC in recent memory? All of those earned us promotions or did very very well for us. It’s making me wonder if Mangan is worth the “gamble”?
If we’re going to bring in someone who’s a club assistant as well, then I’d look to replicate the model we had with DC; bring in a young, up and coming manager from the lower leagues to learn their trade.
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Post by Claremont Gas on Nov 19, 2023 13:53:18 GMT
As another poster has mentioned, seems like Gary Thompson all over again! when in L1 a manager was lined up in advance of GT leaving the post. Roy Kinnear was asked and would have joined but he had already agreed to another job (Luton then in L2). Therefore GT continued until Gerry Francis sorted things out leaving QPR. On the night we were relegated to L2 I was told GF would be returning. The hope had been for GT to keep Rovers in L1 ready for GF. Surely you mean Joe Kinnear ?
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Post by baggins on Nov 19, 2023 14:13:45 GMT
I couldn't think of somebody worse as a DOF as he wouldn't be able to keep his motor mouth shut and would want to run the whole show. I just do not understand how any Gashead would chose to disrespect Ian Holloway, who in his pomp was arguably one of the best, if not the best creative midfield player to ever wear the quarters. Hmm, not sure about that. But opinions etc.
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Post by kampucheagas on Nov 19, 2023 14:23:32 GMT
I reckon we will make a decision by page 246 of this thread.
Pirate will identify a player we sign on page 578
The south stand will be open by page 477
I’ll keep posting nonsense to up the chances at regular intervals
UTG
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Post by oldie on Nov 19, 2023 14:25:57 GMT
when in L1 a manager was lined up in advance of GT leaving the post. Roy Kinnear was asked and would have joined but he had already agreed to another job (Luton then in L2). Therefore GT continued until Gerry Francis sorted things out leaving QPR. On the night we were relegated to L2 I was told GF would be returning. The hope had been for GT to keep Rovers in L1 ready for GF. Surely you mean Joe Kinnear ? No He meant Roy. A laugh a minute
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Post by Topper Gas on Nov 19, 2023 14:27:38 GMT
I couldn't think of somebody worse as a DOF as he wouldn't be able to keep his motor mouth shut and would want to run the whole show. I just do not understand how any Gashead would chose to disrespect Ian Holloway, who in his pomp was arguably one of the best, if not the best creative midfield player to ever wear the quarters. What's being a good player got to do with him now being appointed DOF?
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Post by Topper Gas on Nov 19, 2023 14:32:08 GMT
I’m open to Mangan, but I’ll admit that I wouldn’t be overly excited. But then I’ve just been thinking, who were the assistants here that took over as manager? Trollope (kinda), DC & GC in recent memory? All of those earned us promotions or did very very well for us. It’s making me wonder if Mangan is worth the “gamble”? If we’re going to bring in someone who’s a club assistant as well, then I’d look to replicate the model we had with DC; bring in a young, up and coming manager from the lower leagues to learn their trade. Looking at from the other direction, PT flopped when he was given the manager's job, DC saw us relegated in his first season & GC walked when it looked like we might at least make the play offs. I assume if AM gets the job Whelan will be his assistant, not sure a fellow L1/L2 manager would be interested in being AM's assistant.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2023 14:36:56 GMT
I just do not understand how any Gashead would chose to disrespect Ian Holloway, who in his pomp was arguably one of the best, if not the best creative midfield player to ever wear the quarters. Hmm, not sure about that. But opinions etc. certainly disrespected the club and fanbase when he wanted qpr to beat us in a game and for wanting city to be promoted to the pl. Keep his comedy value for the media and we'll away from the club
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Post by Langford Gas on Nov 19, 2023 14:46:49 GMT
I'm being interviwed Monday, don't worry you will all get your turn
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Post by pirate on Nov 19, 2023 15:10:51 GMT
If we’re going to bring in someone who’s a club assistant as well, then I’d look to replicate the model we had with DC; bring in a young, up and coming manager from the lower leagues to learn their trade. 39-year-old Adam Hinshelwood is doing an outstanding job as first team manager at Worthing and also overseeing the club’s academy. A former football league player with Brighton, Wycombe and Aldershot and England U21 international. He made the move into coaching as Manager of his local club, Selsey, either side of spells as Assistant Manager at Hastings United and Burgess Hill Town, before being appointed Worthing manager on Christmas Day 2013. Narrowly missed out on the Isthmian Division One South Play-Offs in 2014/15 before he was enticed back into the full-time ranks as Manager of Brighton’s U18s. Started the 2017/18 campaign at Hastings United, where he was also responsible for their academy, until he answered the call from Worthing that September. Rewarded with the Manager of the Season accolade as he led his team to the Isthmian League Premier title in 21/22 and won the Sussex Senior Challenge Cup in the 22/23 season. The first season playing in the National League South had Worthing finishing 4th and during 23/24 they are currently 6 points off 2nd place with 2 games in hand and progressed to the first round proper of the FA Cup for the first time since 1999. A 47.69% win percentage since winning promotion to National League South. During his time at Worthing he has developed and moved on to higher levels the likes of Fin Stevens, Kwame Poku, David Ajiboye, Jasper Pattenden, Ricky Aguiar and Harrison Male.
In South Shields first ever season at National League North level, 42-year-old Julio Arca has a 52.63% win percentage guiding the team to 2nd in the table currently. After 355 appearances in professional football and then winning six trophies, three promotions and making 120 appearances in non-league, I'm sure he will have learnt a thing or two along the way working with the likes of José Néstor Pekerman, Tony Mowbray, Mick McCarthy, Gordon Strachan, Peter Reid, Howard Wilkinson and Gareth Southgate. "I pick up good things and bad things from all managers I've worked with. There's always good and bad things. They do it in different ways and you learn from that" Arca said recently.
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