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Post by daniel300380 on Nov 19, 2023 15:50:21 GMT
If we’re going to bring in someone who’s a club assistant as well, then I’d look to replicate the model we had with DC; bring in a young, up and coming manager from the lower leagues to learn their trade. 39-year-old Adam Hinshelwood is doing an outstanding job as first team manager at Worthing and also overseeing the club’s academy. A former football league player with Brighton, Wycombe and Aldershot and England U21 international. He made the move into coaching as Manager of his local club, Selsey, either side of spells as Assistant Manager at Hastings United and Burgess Hill Town, before being appointed Worthing manager on Christmas Day 2013. Narrowly missed out on the Isthmian Division One South Play-Offs in 2014/15 before he was enticed back into the full-time ranks as Manager of Brighton’s U18s. Started the 2017/18 campaign at Hastings United, where he was also responsible for their academy, until he answered the call from Worthing that September. Rewarded with the Manager of the Season accolade as he led his team to the Isthmian League Premier title in 21/22 and won the Sussex Senior Challenge Cup in the 22/23 season. The first season playing in the National League South had Worthing finishing 4th and during 23/24 they are currently 6 points off 2nd place with 2 games in hand and progressed to the first round proper of the FA Cup for the first time since 1999. A 47.69% win percentage since winning promotion to National League South. During his time at Worthing he has developed and moved on to higher levels the likes of Fin Stevens, Kwame Poku, David Ajiboye, Jasper Pattenden, Ricky Aguiar and Harrison Male.
In South Shields first ever season at National League North level, 42-year-old Julio Arca has a 52.63% win percentage guiding the team to 2nd in the table currently. After 355 appearances in professional football and then winning six trophies, three promotions and making 120 appearances in non-league, I'm sure he will have learnt a thing or two along the way working with the likes of José Néstor Pekerman, Tony Mowbray, Mick McCarthy, Gordon Strachan, Peter Reid, Howard Wilkinson and Gareth Southgate. "I pick up good things and bad things from all managers I've worked with. There's always good and bad things. They do it in different ways and you learn from that" Arca said recently. Great knowledge, as always Pirate. Do you know what their budgets were like in comparison to the rest of the league?? As if they had a big budget for the league, then the results might have been expected. The blokes not very likeable, but I'm surprised nobody has linked us with Evans. Stevenage were 22nd in League two in March of last year, they are now flying in League One. He took Rotherham from League 2 to the championship and kept them up. Stevenage have won their last 5. I know he's not very likeable, but neither was Barton 😂. If he took us up and did a job for a year or two, would fans be bothered about his past?? I'm not sure if I would want him myself, but we seem to have been linked with a lot worse managers.
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Post by pirate on Nov 19, 2023 16:49:35 GMT
39-year-old Adam Hinshelwood is doing an outstanding job as first team manager at Worthing and also overseeing the club’s academy. A former football league player with Brighton, Wycombe and Aldershot and England U21 international. He made the move into coaching as Manager of his local club, Selsey, either side of spells as Assistant Manager at Hastings United and Burgess Hill Town, before being appointed Worthing manager on Christmas Day 2013. Narrowly missed out on the Isthmian Division One South Play-Offs in 2014/15 before he was enticed back into the full-time ranks as Manager of Brighton’s U18s. Started the 2017/18 campaign at Hastings United, where he was also responsible for their academy, until he answered the call from Worthing that September. Rewarded with the Manager of the Season accolade as he led his team to the Isthmian League Premier title in 21/22 and won the Sussex Senior Challenge Cup in the 22/23 season. The first season playing in the National League South had Worthing finishing 4th and during 23/24 they are currently 6 points off 2nd place with 2 games in hand and progressed to the first round proper of the FA Cup for the first time since 1999. A 47.69% win percentage since winning promotion to National League South. During his time at Worthing he has developed and moved on to higher levels the likes of Fin Stevens, Kwame Poku, David Ajiboye, Jasper Pattenden, Ricky Aguiar and Harrison Male.
In South Shields first ever season at National League North level, 42-year-old Julio Arca has a 52.63% win percentage guiding the team to 2nd in the table currently. After 355 appearances in professional football and then winning six trophies, three promotions and making 120 appearances in non-league, I'm sure he will have learnt a thing or two along the way working with the likes of José Néstor Pekerman, Tony Mowbray, Mick McCarthy, Gordon Strachan, Peter Reid, Howard Wilkinson and Gareth Southgate. "I pick up good things and bad things from all managers I've worked with. There's always good and bad things. They do it in different ways and you learn from that" Arca said recently. Great knowledge, as always Pirate. Do you know what their budgets were like in comparison to the rest of the league?? As if they had a big budget for the league, then the results might have been expected. The blokes not very likeable, but I'm surprised nobody has linked us with Evans. Stevenage were 22nd in League two in March of last year, they are now flying in League One. He took Rotherham from League 2 to the championship and kept them up. Stevenage have won their last 5. I know he's not very likeable, but neither was Barton 😂. If he took us up and did a job for a year or two, would fans be bothered about his past?? I'm not sure if I would want him myself, but we seem to have been linked with a lot worse managers. Spookily I was thinking exactly the same thing about Evans this weekend. With our sort of budget at this level he would have us challenging no doubt about it. He has achieved 9 promotions in his career!! As much as dislike some of the things he has done in the past, he has mellowed a bit over the years and if you talked to people that have actually met him in real life he is supposedly a likeable character. I want my manager to be like Evans is in as much as he's totally dedicated to the job and obsessively on the road watching 3 or 4 games a week himself and constantly looking to improve. www.theleaguepaper.com/features/big-interview/398732/steve-evans/www.coachesvoice.com/cv/steve-evans-interview-leeds-rotherham-stevenage-boston/www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/stevenage-boss-steve-evans-changing-30734955As for Hinshelwood and Arca, not sure about exact budget figures, but Kevin Phillips walked away from the South Shields job in the summer after being told his budget would he cut and Hinshelwood has had Worthing challenging in both seasons following promotion.
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Post by Topper Gas on Nov 19, 2023 16:53:26 GMT
39-year-old Adam Hinshelwood is doing an outstanding job as first team manager at Worthing and also overseeing the club’s academy. A former football league player with Brighton, Wycombe and Aldershot and England U21 international. He made the move into coaching as Manager of his local club, Selsey, either side of spells as Assistant Manager at Hastings United and Burgess Hill Town, before being appointed Worthing manager on Christmas Day 2013. Narrowly missed out on the Isthmian Division One South Play-Offs in 2014/15 before he was enticed back into the full-time ranks as Manager of Brighton’s U18s. Started the 2017/18 campaign at Hastings United, where he was also responsible for their academy, until he answered the call from Worthing that September. Rewarded with the Manager of the Season accolade as he led his team to the Isthmian League Premier title in 21/22 and won the Sussex Senior Challenge Cup in the 22/23 season. The first season playing in the National League South had Worthing finishing 4th and during 23/24 they are currently 6 points off 2nd place with 2 games in hand and progressed to the first round proper of the FA Cup for the first time since 1999. A 47.69% win percentage since winning promotion to National League South. During his time at Worthing he has developed and moved on to higher levels the likes of Fin Stevens, Kwame Poku, David Ajiboye, Jasper Pattenden, Ricky Aguiar and Harrison Male.
In South Shields first ever season at National League North level, 42-year-old Julio Arca has a 52.63% win percentage guiding the team to 2nd in the table currently. After 355 appearances in professional football and then winning six trophies, three promotions and making 120 appearances in non-league, I'm sure he will have learnt a thing or two along the way working with the likes of José Néstor Pekerman, Tony Mowbray, Mick McCarthy, Gordon Strachan, Peter Reid, Howard Wilkinson and Gareth Southgate. "I pick up good things and bad things from all managers I've worked with. There's always good and bad things. They do it in different ways and you learn from that" Arca said recently. Great knowledge, as always Pirate. Do you know what their budgets were like in comparison to the rest of the league?? As if they had a big budget for the league, then the results might have been expected. The blokes not very likeable, but I'm surprised nobody has linked us with Evans. Stevenage were 22nd in League two in March of last year, they are now flying in League One. He took Rotherham from League 2 to the championship and kept them up. Stevenage have won their last 5. I know he's not very likeable, but neither was Barton 😂. If he took us up and did a job for a year or two, would fans be bothered about his past?? I'm not sure if I would want him myself, but we seem to have been linked with a lot worse managers. Given that JB was such a decisive character with the fan base do we really want another one to replace him? We'd also have to pay compensation which we don't seem to want to pay, although there's always a chance we have asked for permission to speak to Evans and Stevenage told us to do one.
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Post by Gassy on Nov 19, 2023 17:15:23 GMT
I’m open to Mangan, but I’ll admit that I wouldn’t be overly excited. But then I’ve just been thinking, who were the assistants here that took over as manager? Trollope (kinda), DC & GC in recent memory? All of those earned us promotions or did very very well for us. It’s making me wonder if Mangan is worth the “gamble”? If we’re going to bring in someone who’s a club assistant as well, then I’d look to replicate the model we had with DC; bring in a young, up and coming manager from the lower leagues to learn their trade. Looking at from the other direction, PT flopped when he was given the manager's job, DC saw us relegated in his first season & GC walked when it looked like we might at least make the play offs. I assume if AM gets the job Whelan will be his assistant, not sure a fellow L1/L2 manager would be interested in being AM's assistant. If Mangan wants to get us relegated from the Champ or leave us after we’re promoted, that’s fine 😁 Regarding the latter point, I said getting someone from the lower divisions - aka non-league. Pirate has given a couple of very interesting examples
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Post by seanclevedongas on Nov 19, 2023 17:22:26 GMT
39-year-old Adam Hinshelwood is doing an outstanding job as first team manager at Worthing and also overseeing the club’s academy. A former football league player with Brighton, Wycombe and Aldershot and England U21 international. He made the move into coaching as Manager of his local club, Selsey, either side of spells as Assistant Manager at Hastings United and Burgess Hill Town, before being appointed Worthing manager on Christmas Day 2013. Narrowly missed out on the Isthmian Division One South Play-Offs in 2014/15 before he was enticed back into the full-time ranks as Manager of Brighton’s U18s. Started the 2017/18 campaign at Hastings United, where he was also responsible for their academy, until he answered the call from Worthing that September. Rewarded with the Manager of the Season accolade as he led his team to the Isthmian League Premier title in 21/22 and won the Sussex Senior Challenge Cup in the 22/23 season. The first season playing in the National League South had Worthing finishing 4th and during 23/24 they are currently 6 points off 2nd place with 2 games in hand and progressed to the first round proper of the FA Cup for the first time since 1999. A 47.69% win percentage since winning promotion to National League South. During his time at Worthing he has developed and moved on to higher levels the likes of Fin Stevens, Kwame Poku, David Ajiboye, Jasper Pattenden, Ricky Aguiar and Harrison Male.
In South Shields first ever season at National League North level, 42-year-old Julio Arca has a 52.63% win percentage guiding the team to 2nd in the table currently. After 355 appearances in professional football and then winning six trophies, three promotions and making 120 appearances in non-league, I'm sure he will have learnt a thing or two along the way working with the likes of José Néstor Pekerman, Tony Mowbray, Mick McCarthy, Gordon Strachan, Peter Reid, Howard Wilkinson and Gareth Southgate. "I pick up good things and bad things from all managers I've worked with. There's always good and bad things. They do it in different ways and you learn from that" Arca said recently. Great knowledge, as always Pirate. Do you know what their budgets were like in comparison to the rest of the league?? As if they had a big budget for the league, then the results might have been expected. The blokes not very likeable, but I'm surprised nobody has linked us with Evans. Stevenage were 22nd in League two in March of last year, they are now flying in League One. He took Rotherham from League 2 to the championship and kept them up. Stevenage have won their last 5. I know he's not very likeable, but neither was Barton 😂. If he took us up and did a job for a year or two, would fans be bothered about his past?? I'm not sure if I would want him myself, but we seem to have been linked with a lot worse managers. Haven't they only just finished repairing the pitch since the Weeble wobbled across the pitch chasing the ref?
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Post by gasheadontour on Nov 19, 2023 18:22:21 GMT
when in L1 a manager was lined up in advance of GT leaving the post. Roy Kinnear was asked and would have joined but he had already agreed to another job (Luton then in L2). Therefore GT continued until Gerry Francis sorted things out leaving QPR. On the night we were relegated to L2 I was told GF would be returning. The hope had been for GT to keep Rovers in L1 ready for GF. Surely you mean Joe Kinnear ? ha! yes, Joe not Ray
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Post by eric on Nov 19, 2023 18:32:41 GMT
Surely you mean Joe Kinnear ? ha! yes, Joe not Ray There’s three Kinnear’s?
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Post by stuart1974 on Nov 19, 2023 19:10:43 GMT
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Post by rovers78 on Nov 19, 2023 19:14:46 GMT
This bloke is full of sh**e, generally. Seems total guess work, and has got quite a lot of stuff wrong when tweeting about City too. Lennon was never under consideration, Robinson wasn’t a good fit from Quite early on despite it seemingly being a good match for both parties. Expecting the Mangan developments to speed up tomorrow.
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Post by pucklegas on Nov 20, 2023 11:10:59 GMT
Derek Adams just left Morecambe for another club.....
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Post by pirate on Nov 20, 2023 11:13:58 GMT
Derek Adams just left Morecambe for another club..... Ross County.
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Post by lavalamp on Nov 20, 2023 11:15:22 GMT
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Post by pucklegas on Nov 20, 2023 11:20:32 GMT
Derek Adams just left Morecambe for another club..... Ross County. Makes sense, my mate called me because of the timing, him leaving and allegedly an announcement soon.
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Post by Claremont Gas on Nov 20, 2023 11:56:35 GMT
Wonder what the announcement will say...
"Having scoured the Football Leagues of Europe and spoken with dozens of candidates all keen to be part of the exciting BRFC project we are delighted to announce Andy Mangan as our new First Team Manager on a Five year contract. Andy was by far the strongest candidate, the players love him as mate and in the last five games against tough opposition he has shown how great he could be".
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" Not really having a bloody clue where to start and having looked at the crap candidates on offer we are delighted to announce Andy Mangan on a five year contract. This means that even when we sack him before the end of this season we will be clear of all contractual payments to him by 2028." We are drawing up a Summer list of potential great managers who we will try and find contact details for"
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Post by westfieldgas on Nov 20, 2023 13:23:55 GMT
Have also heard its Mangan, 1.5 year deal though.
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Post by twertongas on Nov 20, 2023 13:33:41 GMT
Haven't been on here for a while but thought it's about time to come back. I was not a Barton fan at all but I cannot deny that I enjoyed the promotion and got swept up by good times which made me soften a little to him but it never took much to convince me I was always right about him as a person. I must admit to being overjoyed that the man's association with our wonderful club had come to an end. Optimistic of a new appointment with our ambitious owner and of getting that promotion bus started again. Time has passed (maybe too much) and we still haven't made an appointment or seemingly had a really strong link, it does leave you wondering what on earth is going on, with the amount of time now passed I feel that we should be updated by the club as to what is going on, appreciate they cannot be specific but it is starting to stink of incompetence. If the search is really that hard, then I would rather they just announced Andy Mangan until the end of the season and then all the footballing side can settle down and know where they are. I personally am a fan of Mangan, I mean he's a smiley, nice chap, what's not to like until we start losing... for me he would need help above him and guidance. For me I would want a DoF above him and I know who I'd love for it to be but that's a romantic idea of which will get shot down on here in a heartbeat. Never really understood why the bitter bordering hatred for ollie from some "gasheads" - without knowing the ins and outs of Ians life and whats gone on, its easy to Judge him. None of the other names linked really get my juices flowing through and as much as I don't like him, I'm not sure the timing to sack Barton was right without a clear plan. I mean we would have probably had the same return recently with him IMO. Hard one.
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Post by rovers78 on Nov 20, 2023 14:36:33 GMT
The silence is deafening
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Post by pucklegas on Nov 20, 2023 14:48:25 GMT
Is Mangers still the favourite?
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Post by lastminutewinner on Nov 20, 2023 14:57:00 GMT
Is Mangers still the favourite? He is cheap and already here. That's a gas favourite if ever I saw one
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Post by Topper Gas on Nov 20, 2023 15:45:51 GMT
Fairly certain they are waiting to see how he gets on at Derby and possibly Crewe before making a final decision.
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