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Post by bridgwatergas on Nov 21, 2023 14:06:42 GMT
I think its about time the club made a proper statement about what's going on' whatever the reasons. In my 45 years of following Rovers aged 6 in 1979 I have never ever known or remember it taking this amount of time. Either the club know/don't know or are incapable when it comes to these kind of situations......its severely frustrating. In my opinion the new manager (if possible) should have been in place last week so he had over a week to work with the players and bed in? Am I right or just blowing smoke rings up my own anal passage I like the fact that nothing is leaked out from the boardroom and until there is anything to say they say nothing. It certainly makes this place more interesting with itk,nitk,speculation,what ifs.
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Post by Gashead73 on Nov 21, 2023 14:21:24 GMT
I think its about time the club made a proper statement about what's going on' whatever the reasons. In my 45 years of following Rovers aged 6 in 1979 I have never ever known or remember it taking this amount of time. Either the club know/don't know or are incapable when it comes to these kind of situations......its severely frustrating. In my opinion the new manager (if possible) should have been in place last week so he had over a week to work with the players and bed in? Am I right or just blowing smoke rings up my own anal passage I like the fact that nothing is leaked out from the boardroom and until there is anything to say they say nothing. It certainly makes this place more interesting with itk,nitk,speculation,what ifs. Fair enough
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Post by Gassy on Nov 21, 2023 14:25:53 GMT
Ok this is taking a bit long now tbh, Thursday will have been 4 weeks since Barton was let go.
I kinda get the feeling we're waiting on the Derby result/performance before giving it to Mangan tbh.
I just wish we could get some sort of update, even if its a planned leak to the BP
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Post by 2nd May 1990 on Nov 21, 2023 14:32:48 GMT
There was logic in appointing a new manager at the back end of last week as they would have a good amount of time to bed in before the next game. Now they haven’t done that I can see the logic in waiting to see how we perform against Derby. Mangan has done what we could have expected him to do, now can he raise the players away at one of the better clubs in the division? That’s a proper test - a job interview, if you like.
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Post by brfckeys on Nov 21, 2023 15:04:14 GMT
As others have mentioned I think if the board had someone they really wanted and was willing to join it would have been done by now so that they had a full week of training leading up to the Derby game. I expect Mangs will now get the Derby and possibly Orient games still as interim manager and then a decision on if he gets the job permanently will be made based on the results. Although it's frustrating to not have things sorted already I think giving Mangs the full job before the next 2 games would probably be unwise. See how he gets on against some more competitive sides in the league, if he picks up 4+ points then the decision of giving him the full time job becomes much easier.
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Post by RD on Nov 21, 2023 15:42:55 GMT
Ok this is taking a bit long now tbh, Thursday will have been 4 weeks since Barton was let go. I kinda get the feeling we're waiting on the Derby result/performance before giving it to Mangan tbh. I just wish we could get some sort of update, even if its a planned leak to the BP And they said they had already basically made their minds up he was off the week before they sacked him!! It's so odd though - as effectively we're saying we'll decide if Mangan is a good enough manager based on one performance at Derby! I.e., if he loses he's not good enough and we'll look elsewhere, if he wins he's the answer and we'll give him a contract. And before anyone says "it's not just one game" - it effectively is if despite all these wins, a loss to Derby is what we deem is the bar he couldn't reach. Even more crazy - presumably there really is noone else lined up (as can't imagine they'd be too happy to be kept waiting). So if we do get battered by Derby, presumably we're still nowhere near appointing someone?! It fees like they've crossed their fingers and are praying for a good result so they can appoint him and breathe a sigh of relief.
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Post by 2nd May 1990 on Nov 21, 2023 16:01:43 GMT
Ok this is taking a bit long now tbh, Thursday will have been 4 weeks since Barton was let go. I kinda get the feeling we're waiting on the Derby result/performance before giving it to Mangan tbh. I just wish we could get some sort of update, even if its a planned leak to the BP And they said they had already basically made their minds up he was off the week before they sacked him!! It's so odd though - as effectively we're saying we'll decide if Mangan is a good enough manager based on one performance at Derby! I.e., if he loses he's not good enough and we'll look elsewhere, if he wins he's the answer and we'll give him a contract. And before anyone says "it's not just one game" - it effectively is if despite all these wins, a loss to Derby is what we deem is the bar he couldn't reach. Even more crazy - presumably there really is noone else lined up (as can't imagine they'd be too happy to be kept waiting). So if we do get battered by Derby, presumably we're still nowhere near appointing someone?! It fees like they've crossed their fingers and are praying for a good result so they can appoint him and breathe a sigh of relief. I’m not saying I have a great deal of confidence in the process either, RD, but it might not just be the result. It’s how Mangan and the team perform on Saturday that tells us a lot, I feel. Ultimately the fact he has strung together a few results, albeit against teams below us in the table, has brought him and the board some time. It’s easy for us to say well Barton would have won those games anyway. I’m not so sure. His record against the lesser teams wasn’t so good if I recall correctly. There’s still plenty of time until January and so no need to rush.
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Post by percy on Nov 21, 2023 16:04:38 GMT
Ok this is taking a bit long now tbh, Thursday will have been 4 weeks since Barton was let go. I kinda get the feeling we're waiting on the Derby result/performance before giving it to Mangan tbh. I just wish we could get some sort of update, even if its a planned leak to the BP And they said they had already basically made their minds up he was off the week before they sacked him!! It's so odd though - as effectively we're saying we'll decide if Mangan is a good enough manager based on one performance at Derby! I.e., if he loses he's not good enough and we'll look elsewhere, if he wins he's the answer and we'll give him a contract. And before anyone says "it's not just one game" - it effectively is if despite all these wins, a loss to Derby is what we deem is the bar he couldn't reach. Even more crazy - presumably there really is noone else lined up (as can't imagine they'd be too happy to be kept waiting). So if we do get battered by Derby, presumably we're still nowhere near appointing someone?! It fees like they've crossed their fingers and are praying for a good result so they can appoint him and breathe a sigh of relief. Lot of assumptions there!
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Post by wallywalters on Nov 21, 2023 16:08:22 GMT
Ok this is taking a bit long now tbh, Thursday will have been 4 weeks since Barton was let go. I kinda get the feeling we're waiting on the Derby result/performance before giving it to Mangan tbh. I just wish we could get some sort of update, even if its a planned leak to the BP And they said they had already basically made their minds up he was off the week before they sacked him!! It's so odd though - as effectively we're saying we'll decide if Mangan is a good enough manager based on one performance at Derby! I.e., if he loses he's not good enough and we'll look elsewhere, if he wins he's the answer and we'll give him a contract. And before anyone says "it's not just one game" - it effectively is if despite all these wins, a loss to Derby is what we deem is the bar he couldn't reach. Even more crazy - presumably there really is noone else lined up (as can't imagine they'd be too happy to be kept waiting). So if we do get battered by Derby, presumably we're still nowhere near appointing someone?! It fees like they've crossed their fingers and are praying for a good result so they can appoint him and breathe a sigh of relief. That's how I see it RD and if that is the reason we are waiting then it's ridiculous. Surely no club appoints a manager in this way? Unfortunately we have had no update at all from the club in 4 weeks so we are all speculating based on alleged insider knowledge or poor guessing game reporting from Bristol live. Would be nice for even the simplest of updates like " we have interviewed n number of candidates and are now down to our final shortlist where a decision will be made within the next few days. We understand the frustrations of the fans for the length of time it has taken but we feel it is important we get the right person to take this squad towards our objectives" If it's actually" well we've interviewed n number of candidates and still don't really know who to choose so were going to see how mangan gets on at derby" then god help us 🤦
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Post by pirate on Nov 21, 2023 16:38:42 GMT
This is why some of us suggested getting someone in with proper football nous and experience to help with the process.
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Post by yattongas on Nov 21, 2023 17:07:44 GMT
This is why some of us suggested getting someone in with proper football nous and experience to help with the process. I’m still awaiting the phone call 🙄
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Post by twertongas on Nov 21, 2023 17:09:37 GMT
I Wonder if any of the applicants would take a DoF role? Mangan will need a Lennie of sorts. Appointing him alone would be utter madness for his first time managing. I don't see us making wholesale changes throughout our staff, so it would seem the above is the most sensible option. So maybe the question isn't who is the Head coach going to be, more who is going to be the DoF? UTG
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Post by twertongas on Nov 21, 2023 17:11:15 GMT
I'd imagine we would struggle to make the sort of signings we made under JB with AM in charge. My assumptions would be he had the contacts and not the club.
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Post by Claremont Gas on Nov 21, 2023 17:12:58 GMT
107 pages and nowhere nearer to anything being sorted.
If all this goes wrong as I fear it might I wonder how many pages the relegation post mortem will reach.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Nov 21, 2023 17:15:07 GMT
107 pages and nowhere nearer to anything being sorted. If all this goes wrong as I fear it might I wonder how many pages the relegation post mortem will reach. In the words of Jim Royle "Relegation, my arse".
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Post by twertongas on Nov 21, 2023 17:15:26 GMT
107 pages and nowhere nearer to anything being sorted. If all this goes wrong as I fear it might I wonder how many pages the relegation post mortem will reach. relegation!!! I'm sure we can balls up the apt but I think we will be OK THIS season...
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Post by pirate on Nov 21, 2023 17:29:39 GMT
I Wonder if any of the applicants would take a DoF role? Mangan will need a Lennie of sorts. Appointing him alone would be utter madness for his first time managing. I don't see us making wholesale changes throughout our staff, so it would seem the above is the most sensible option. So maybe the question isn't who is the Head coach going to be, more who is going to be the DoF? UTG If you know what you want it shouldn't be too difficult to identify the right candidate for a DoF type of role. I don't understand why someone hasn't already been appointed to be honest, especially with the rumours of Eddy Jennings leaving the club 4/5 weeks ago. I'm not sure what is taking so long with the restructuring because the new owners have been reportedly looking at the club and doing due diligence for the past 9 months, so surely they have some sort of idea what and who they want as DoF and in the meantime have been identifying and negotiating with people in the background?
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Post by rovers78 on Nov 21, 2023 17:31:47 GMT
Let’s be honest , this is a total farce. Been best part of 5 weeks & 5 games, including an international break. proves they had absolutely no plan at all, if we go into derby with Mangan still just interim it’s a joke.
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Post by stuart1974 on Nov 21, 2023 17:35:36 GMT
This is why some of us suggested getting someone in with proper football nous and experience to help with the process. I’m still awaiting the phone call 🙄 Mobile reception in Yatton? You may be waiting a little longer. 😃
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Post by mrgasman on Nov 21, 2023 17:39:52 GMT
I think Mangan has given the board time to not rush into things. Although Derby on Saturday will the big test on whether he can hold the fort or not. Currently I’m ok with waiting and seeing. Coughlan did it for the Gas so maybe Mangan can.
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