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Post by outsidehitter30 on Nov 25, 2023 22:13:58 GMT
Is Garry Monk back from the US ? Could explain the delay in making an appointment?
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Nov 26, 2023 6:39:52 GMT
Football fans are so fickle. So many on here were happy with Mangan before us losing yesterday.
I don't think he is the right choice before yesterday nor after yesterday. My personal opinion is he benifitted from some easy games, I have never been convinced. Look at Exeter, I didn't think Caldwell was the right choice there looking at his cv but he came in and did alright to start with but now they are in absolute free fall. (also emphasises how good a job Taylor did there).
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Post by TAGas on Nov 26, 2023 7:57:31 GMT
I'm with GGMI on this. I didn't want Mangan from the start, don't want him in charge now. Nothing against the bloke, I just feel we need a fresh pair of eyes in to look over the squad and a clean slate. Still feels Barton's influence is around the way we play.
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Post by singupgas on Nov 26, 2023 8:07:38 GMT
Thing is, who is the right choice.
Who is this manager that we are after that has history of getting clubs out of league 1?
Monk no and no success as manager at all, Taylor no only successful in league 2. Karl Robinson no but finished consistently high in league 1 whilst at Oxford..
Again, I don't get the problem with the way we play football. We play good football. I would hate us to be long ball merchants. Our problem is we don't often go 1 up and have been chasing games. Need more clinical and to be better at creating chances.
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Post by bidefordgas on Nov 26, 2023 8:35:55 GMT
Thing is, who is the right choice. Who is this manager that we are after that has history of getting clubs out of league 1? Monk no and no success as manager at all, Taylor no only successful in league 2. Karl Robinson no but finished consistently high in league 1 whilst at Oxford.. Again, I don't get the problem with the way we play football. We play good football. I would hate us to be long ball merchants. Our problem is we don't often go 1 up and have been chasing games. Need more clinical and to be better at creating chances. Monk no success as a manager? Took Swansea to 8th in the Premier league, their highest ever finish in that league. Beating teams like Man Utd and Arsenal home and away. In his own words all the other clubs were fire fighting cases to avoid relegation. He succeeded in doing that at all those clubs and Brummie fans were very disappointed when he was sacked.
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Post by singupgas on Nov 26, 2023 8:42:55 GMT
Thing is, who is the right choice. Who is this manager that we are after that has history of getting clubs out of league 1? Monk no and no success as manager at all, Taylor no only successful in league 2. Karl Robinson no but finished consistently high in league 1 whilst at Oxford.. Again, I don't get the problem with the way we play football. We play good football. I would hate us to be long ball merchants. Our problem is we don't often go 1 up and have been chasing games. Need more clinical and to be better at creating chances. Monk no success as a manager? Took Swansea to 8th in the Premier league, their highest ever finish in that league. Beating teams like Man Utd and Arsenal home and away. In his own words all the other clubs were fire fighting cases to avoid relegation. He succeeded in doing that at all those clubs and Brummie fans were very disappointed when he was sacked. Inherited the job. Never took them there. Was actually sacked from Swansea after winning one in eleven games.
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Post by bidefordgas on Nov 26, 2023 8:48:53 GMT
Monk no success as a manager? Took Swansea to 8th in the Premier league, their highest ever finish in that league. Beating teams like Man Utd and Arsenal home and away. In his own words all the other clubs were fire fighting cases to avoid relegation. He succeeded in doing that at all those clubs and Brummie fans were very disappointed when he was sacked. Inherited the job. Never took them there. Was actually sacked from Swansea after winning one in eleven games. The season they finished 8th he was there the whole season after taking over the previous season and guiding them to safety from a relegation position to mid table. As regards taking them there, the Premier league I assume you mean, he was their centrehalf throughout their rise from the bottom division to the Premier league.
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Post by Topper Gas on Nov 26, 2023 8:49:09 GMT
Thing is, who is the right choice. Who is this manager that we are after that has history of getting clubs out of league 1? Monk no and no success as manager at all, Taylor no only successful in league 2. Karl Robinson no but finished consistently high in league 1 whilst at Oxford.. Again, I don't get the problem with the way we play football. We play good football. I would hate us to be long ball merchants. Our problem is we don't often go 1 up and have been chasing games. Need more clinical and to be better at creating chances. Monk no success as a manager? Took Swansea to 8th in the Premier league, their highest ever finish in that league. Beating teams like Man Utd and Arsenal home and away. In his own words all the other clubs were fire fighting cases to avoid relegation. He succeeded in doing that at all those clubs and Brummie fans were very disappointed when he was sacked. If Monk's such a good manager why's he not been one for the last 3 years? Why after all that time out would he decide Rovers are the perfect job for him to return to management? Anyway regardless as to who we think is the best man suitable we've no idea who's interested nor what the board's intentions are, it's plain odd how they don't communicate anything with the fan base.
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Post by pirate on Nov 26, 2023 8:49:38 GMT
Thing is, who is the right choice. Who is this manager that we are after that has history of getting clubs out of league 1? Monk no and no success as manager at all, Taylor no only successful in league 2. Karl Robinson no but finished consistently high in league 1 whilst at Oxford.. Again, I don't get the problem with the way we play football. We play good football. I would hate us to be long ball merchants. Our problem is we don't often go 1 up and have been chasing games. Need more clinical and to be better at creating chances. Karl Robinson got promoted out of League One with MK Dons.
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Post by singupgas on Nov 26, 2023 8:55:17 GMT
Inherited the job. Never took them there. Was actually sacked from Swansea after winning one in eleven games. The season they finished 8th he was there the whole season after taking over the previous season and guiding them to safety from a relegation position to mid table. As regards taking them there, the Premier league I assume you mean, he was their centrehalf throughout their rise from the bottom division to the Premier league. Yes but he never promoted them as a manager did he which is what we are discussing. Did well as manager for a season, but he has inherited a team that was already playing in Europe so not bad. The following seasons he won one game in 11 as I said. Hasn't done much anywhere else.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2023 8:55:40 GMT
Thing is, who is the right choice. Who is this manager that we are after that has history of getting clubs out of league 1? Monk no and no success as manager at all, Taylor no only successful in league 2. Karl Robinson no but finished consistently high in league 1 whilst at Oxford.. Again, I don't get the problem with the way we play football. We play good football. I would hate us to be long ball merchants. Our problem is we don't often go 1 up and have been chasing games. Need more clinical and to be better at creating chances. Karl Robinson got promoted out of League One with MK Dons. Then failed to do so multiple times with Oxford. I think he’s an okay manager but I have a gut feeling he’d be a bad fit here. Don’t know why I just don’t see it working.
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Post by bidefordgas on Nov 26, 2023 8:55:41 GMT
Monk no success as a manager? Took Swansea to 8th in the Premier league, their highest ever finish in that league. Beating teams like Man Utd and Arsenal home and away. In his own words all the other clubs were fire fighting cases to avoid relegation. He succeeded in doing that at all those clubs and Brummie fans were very disappointed when he was sacked. If Monk's such a good manager why's he not been one for the last 3 years? Why after all that time out would he decide Rovers are the perfect job for him to return to management? Anyway regardless as to who we think is the best man suitable we've no idea who's interested nor what the board's intentions are, it's plain odd how they don't communicate anything with the fan base. You would have to ask him why he has not managed for three years, I don’t know why but it certainly does not make him a bad manager. As for Rovers, we only know through speculation who has been interviewed, so we will just have to wait and see. We can all then debate the merits or whatever about the chosen one.
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Post by singupgas on Nov 26, 2023 8:57:26 GMT
Thing is, who is the right choice. Who is this manager that we are after that has history of getting clubs out of league 1? Monk no and no success as manager at all, Taylor no only successful in league 2. Karl Robinson no but finished consistently high in league 1 whilst at Oxford.. Again, I don't get the problem with the way we play football. We play good football. I would hate us to be long ball merchants. Our problem is we don't often go 1 up and have been chasing games. Need more clinical and to be better at creating chances. Karl Robinson got promoted out of League One with MK Dons. Stand corrected. Karl Robinson would have been my choice of all the names anyway. We have never got anywhere near the league 1 plays offs in recent times. We sit mid table looking up, never in those tops spots throughout. I would love us to actually contend in the playoffs minimum and be right the mix the entire season. Karl Robinson did that many times at Oxford.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2023 8:58:20 GMT
The season they finished 8th he was there the whole season after taking over the previous season and guiding them to safety from a relegation position to mid table. As regards taking them there, the Premier league I assume you mean, he was their centrehalf throughout their rise from the bottom division to the Premier league. Yes but he never promoted them as a manager did he which is what we are discussing. Did well as manager for a season, but he has inherited a team that was already playing in Europe so not bad. The following seasons he won one game in 11 as I said. Hasn't done much anywhere else. It’s pretty difficult to get promoted from a division that’s impossible to get promotion from. Depends what your expectations are for Swansea as a premier league club? A Birmingham fan I know loves the bloke and was gutted he left. Ky concern with him would be around his agent and the fact he hasn’t worked for 3 years.
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Post by Topper Gas on Nov 26, 2023 9:01:53 GMT
Karl Robinson got promoted out of League One with MK Dons. Then failed to do so multiple times with Oxford. I think he’s an okay manager but I have a gut feeling he’d be a bad fit here. Don’t know why I just don’t see it working. Whilst he failed a few times at Oxford at least he got them there, you can't see Mangan doing that this season, our season could effectively be over if we lose to Crewe next week. The board really needs to make a decision this weekend, either back Mangan for at least the rest of this season, or appoint somebody else.
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Post by singupgas on Nov 26, 2023 9:03:35 GMT
Yes but he never promoted them as a manager did he which is what we are discussing. Did well as manager for a season, but he has inherited a team that was already playing in Europe so not bad. The following seasons he won one game in 11 as I said. Hasn't done much anywhere else. It’s pretty difficult to get promoted from a division that’s impossible to get promotion from. Depends what your expectations are for Swansea as a premier league club? A Birmingham fan I know loves the bloke and was gutted he left. Ky concern with him would be around his agent and the fact he hasn’t worked for 3 years. What league is impossible to get promoted from? Point is he has never got promoted as a manager, which means consistently winning over 46 games. Appreciate he had one good season, but that is it. Again, he inherited a decent squad. All our fans love DC, but never looked like getting us out of league 1 either.
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Post by pirate on Nov 26, 2023 9:06:17 GMT
Karl Robinson got promoted out of League One with MK Dons. Then failed to do so multiple times with Oxford. I think he’s an okay manager but I have a gut feeling he’d be a bad fit here. Don’t know why I just don’t see it working. He achieved two playoff finishes (which is two more than we have achieved in the past 25 years) at Oxford despite selling his best players year in year out and generating over £10 million in sales from the likes of Luke McNally, Rob Atkinson, Rob Dickie, Shandon Baptiste, Gavin Whyte and Tariqe Fosu.
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Post by supergas on Nov 26, 2023 9:12:18 GMT
The season they finished 8th he was there the whole season after taking over the previous season and guiding them to safety from a relegation position to mid table. As regards taking them there, the Premier league I assume you mean, he was their centrehalf throughout their rise from the bottom division to the Premier league. Yes but he never promoted them as a manager did he which is what we are discussing. Did well as manager for a season, but he has inherited a team that was already playing in Europe so not bad. The following seasons he won one game in 11 as I said. Hasn't done much anywhere else. P53 W25 (47%) with Leeds (and resigned, not sacked from that job). P26 W12 (46%) with Middlesborough. Whilst statistically worse, his P59 W19 (32%) with Birmingham in the real world is probably a better achievement - it included P11 W5 (45%) to escape relegation and then next season (where under the EFL sanctions he could only sign one player for a small fee and any loans/free-transfers had huge wage restrictions) he got them as high as ninth in the table after the first third of the season.
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Post by chewbacca on Nov 26, 2023 9:14:54 GMT
We’re now a month without a manager, bet the club hierarchy are delighted with the timing of everyone getting excited with the new stand. Another shambles.
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Post by supergas on Nov 26, 2023 9:28:14 GMT
It’s pretty difficult to get promoted from a division that’s impossible to get promotion from. Depends what your expectations are for Swansea as a premier league club? A Birmingham fan I know loves the bloke and was gutted he left. Ky concern with him would be around his agent and the fact he hasn’t worked for 3 years. What league is impossible to get promoted from? Point is he has never got promoted as a manager, which means consistently winning over 46 games. Appreciate he had one good season, but that is it. Again, he inherited a decent squad. All our fans love DC, but never looked like getting us out of league 1 either. Towards the end of March 2017 we were three points off the playoffs with seven games to play. The defeat away to Coventry knocked our momentum at a crucial time and instead of ending in the top six we finished 10th. But before that game I bet a lot of us were thinking three promotions on the bounce was possible...
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