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Post by gasandelectricity on Nov 25, 2023 17:24:01 GMT
Surely any DoF needs to be a club appointment and not selected by the manager? Jennings went 2 weeks before JB , both walked 100 %, both still.on payroll , common knowledge , new owners should appoint themselves as manager if they want to pick who plays If this is the case why the hell would they still be on the payroll? If they truly walked they’d have been in breach of contract. Mutual termination is different but they’d have likely had a payout.
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Post by heartofgas on Nov 25, 2023 17:24:42 GMT
After today, just not sure. We looked ok as a team but seemed to get things a bit wrong in the second half. I think if you're not sure then the best option would be someone else. Although that sounds a little harsh because there were fine margins in it today.
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Post by Gas1977 on Nov 25, 2023 17:39:54 GMT
A win at Derby would have given Mangan the job. That’s the only upside from today. Love the bloke, but he’s not ready. Need a fresh start and clean break from the old regime. Still making same mistakes at the back and predictable going forward, nobody should be fooled by scraping results against favourable opposition. I just don't have any faith in those making the decisions to make the right appointment. Pirate I think it’s likely to be either Monk or Taylor, who do you think would suit us better. Monk sounds more attractive to me providing he doesn’t play hoof ball. I know we have some older fans but god how I hate it when we don’t keep the ball
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Post by GasAttacK on Nov 25, 2023 17:40:15 GMT
Nothing will change with Mangan in charge. He's spent too long working under JB. Absolutely pointless to sack JB and replace him with his assistant.
Weak at the back & toothless up front. Like so many performances under JB we played okay at times but what did we manage? 3 shots on target & 1 corner in 100+ mins. More pointless possession that leads to nothing & the defending for both Derby goals was shocking.
We need a new manager with fresh ideas.
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Post by percy on Nov 25, 2023 17:46:17 GMT
Not mangans fault Joey and Eddie left us so short at CB and LB. The MDT has everyone saying players aren’t good enough. We need Jan to challenge. The aim is can we stay in touch with enough points and what is the best way to get them - stick or twist?
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Post by Topper Gas on Nov 25, 2023 17:55:04 GMT
Need a fresh start and clean break from the old regime. Still making same mistakes at the back and predictable going forward, nobody should be fooled by scraping results against favourable opposition. I just don't have any faith in those making the decisions to make the right appointment. Pirate I think it’s likely to be either Monk or Taylor, who do you think would suit us better. Monk sounds more attractive to me providing he doesn’t play hoof ball. I know we have some older fans but god how I hate it when we don’t keep the ball Exeter look in desperate shape I can see them going all out to convince Taylor to return to save them.
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Post by pirate on Nov 25, 2023 18:01:22 GMT
Need a fresh start and clean break from the old regime. Still making same mistakes at the back and predictable going forward, nobody should be fooled by scraping results against favourable opposition. I just don't have any faith in those making the decisions to make the right appointment. Pirate I think it’s likely to be either Monk or Taylor, who do you think would suit us better. Monk sounds more attractive to me providing he doesn’t play hoof ball. I know we have some older fans but god how I hate it when we don’t keep the ball Hard for me to say as neither would likely be my choice. I thought we would have appointed a new DoF first and then he could have had an input in the identification process and decision making, but not the case here. As we have heard very little from the new owners it's hard to gage what they really want and what the plan is going forward.
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Post by Gas1977 on Nov 25, 2023 18:02:55 GMT
Pirate I think it’s likely to be either Monk or Taylor, who do you think would suit us better. Monk sounds more attractive to me providing he doesn’t play hoof ball. I know we have some older fans but god how I hate it when we don’t keep the ball Hard for me to say as neither would likely be my choice. I thought we would have appointed a new DoF first and then he could have had an input in the identification process and decision making, but not the case here. As we have heard very little from the new owners it's hard to gage what they really want and what the plan is going forward. You May disagree with me here but I am not sure I like them DOF title. Manager picks the players and who he wants to buy not a DOF getting them for him. Let’s be honest the guys available are pretty dross I’ll give the board that if that’s the excuse
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Post by pirate on Nov 25, 2023 18:12:48 GMT
Hard for me to say as neither would likely be my choice. I thought we would have appointed a new DoF first and then he could have had an input in the identification process and decision making, but not the case here. As we have heard very little from the new owners it's hard to gage what they really want and what the plan is going forward. You May disagree with me here but I am not sure I like them DOF title. Manager picks the players and who he wants to buy not a DOF getting them for him. Let’s be honest the guys available are pretty dross I’ll give the board that if that’s the excuse It doesn't matter if you call it director of football, sporting director or head of football operations, a lot of clubs have one these days and the roles and titles may differ slightly, but the are all basically doing the same function, advising the board, overseeing everything from the first team, to the academy, to recruitment and scouting, and making sure everything is running as smoothly and efficiently as possible with succession plans for every eventuality.
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Post by Topper Gas on Nov 25, 2023 18:33:01 GMT
You May disagree with me here but I am not sure I like them DOF title. Manager picks the players and who he wants to buy not a DOF getting them for him. Let’s be honest the guys available are pretty dross I’ll give the board that if that’s the excuse It doesn't matter if you call it director of football, sporting director or head of football operations, a lot of clubs have one these days and the roles and titles may differ slightly, but the are all basically doing the same function, advising the board, overseeing everything from the first team, to the academy, to recruitment and scouting, and making sure everything is running as smoothly and efficiently as possible with succession plans for every eventuality. If we haven't agree a severance deal with EJ, or he's working his notice period, then perhaps that's holding up appointing a DoF? Parting with the scouse mafia was never going to be that easy?
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Post by bidefordgas on Nov 25, 2023 18:59:21 GMT
It doesn't matter if you call it director of football, sporting director or head of football operations, a lot of clubs have one these days and the roles and titles may differ slightly, but the are all basically doing the same function, advising the board, overseeing everything from the first team, to the academy, to recruitment and scouting, and making sure everything is running as smoothly and efficiently as possible with succession plans for every eventuality. If we haven't agree a severance deal with EJ, or he's working his notice period, then perhaps that's holding up appointing a DoF? Parting with the scouse mafia was never going to be that easy? We appear to be having trouble getting a new manager let alone a dof. As far as I am aware the club has said they are looking for a new manager and have definately not said they are looking for a dof. Yet another gaschat rumour started on gaschat.
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Post by Topper Gas on Nov 25, 2023 19:16:39 GMT
If we haven't agree a severance deal with EJ, or he's working his notice period, then perhaps that's holding up appointing a DoF? Parting with the scouse mafia was never going to be that easy? We appear to be having trouble getting a new manager let alone a dof. As far as I am aware the club has said they are looking for a new manager and have definately not said they are looking for a dof. Yet another gaschat rumour started on gaschat. Can you really see EJ staying now JB's gone? If not then you have to assume the BoD will have to appoint either a HoR or DoF to replace his, and TW's in the past, role? Unless Mr A sees himself doing that role in the future!!
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Post by albaron on Nov 25, 2023 19:23:19 GMT
We appear to be having trouble getting a new manager let alone a dof. As far as I am aware the club has said they are looking for a new manager and have definately not said they are looking for a dof. Yet another gaschat rumour started on gaschat. Can you really see EJ staying now JB's gone? If not then you have to assume the BoD will have to appoint either a HoR or DoF to replace his, and TW's in the past, role? Unless Mr A sees himself doing that role in the future!! I donot understand what you are on about regarding this post. You've certainly lost me.
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Post by bidefordgas on Nov 25, 2023 19:24:41 GMT
We appear to be having trouble getting a new manager let alone a dof. As far as I am aware the club has said they are looking for a new manager and have definately not said they are looking for a dof. Yet another gaschat rumour started on gaschat. Can you really see EJ staying now JB's gone? If not then you have to assume the BoD will have to appoint either a HoR or DoF to replace his, and TW's in the past, role? Unless Mr A sees himself doing that role in the future!! As far as I know EJ is still here at the moment and may well depart sometime in the future. Having said that he might need the money and at the present time I assume Joey is unable to offer him a job in football unless he is looking for a babysitter/ child care nurse for his kids.
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Post by francegas on Nov 25, 2023 20:15:07 GMT
Is Garry Monk back from the US ?
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Post by bidefordgas on Nov 25, 2023 20:23:00 GMT
Is Garry Monk back from the US ? Believe he came back last Thursday.
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Post by gasheadontour on Nov 25, 2023 20:28:54 GMT
None of the young managers stand out. Therefore give the job to Chris Martin. He has so much experience of different management styles at a higher level. He doesn't care that he used to play for 82. Today he celebrated his goal despite his past with Derby. You don't get to have one of best ever goalscoring records in the history of championship despite having no pace unless a very determined person to make the most of what you have. Either that or get someone such as Ray Warburton.
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Post by Somersetgas on Nov 25, 2023 20:36:25 GMT
None of the young managers stand out. Therefore give the job to Chris Martin. He has so much experience of different management styles at a higher level. He doesn't care that he used to play for 82. Today he celebrated his goal despite his past with Derby. You don't get to have one of best ever goalscoring records in the history of championship despite having no pace unless a very determined person to make the most of what you have. Either that or get someone such as Ray Warburton. Seriously? Let’s just go and get the Lee and Gary dream team.
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Post by oliverhelmet on Nov 25, 2023 21:37:48 GMT
Leaning towards a new manager I think - new man = new ideas/tactics.This squad is capable of so much better.
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Post by wallywalters on Nov 25, 2023 21:49:45 GMT
To the owners.
Whatever you decide. Stick with mangan or new manager can you just fu**ING sort it out and appoint someone please. Your creating massive uncertainty and it isn't helping mangan , the players, or the fans. Just sort your sh*t out and make an appointment one way or the other. Youv had enough time now.
That's it I think.
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