Marshy
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Post by Marshy on Nov 30, 2023 17:43:57 GMT
A heard a Monk turned us down to be a Tailor. Indeed, he had a bad habit, that's why. Get out. 😁
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Post by olskooltoteender on Nov 30, 2023 17:45:54 GMT
I will throw my hat in the ring gents. I did lead the youth team I coach to a perfect 14-0 record this past season and will save us money as will take beer as payment. Gets my vote!
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Post by DrFaustus on Nov 30, 2023 17:47:39 GMT
As if the eventual ‘welcome to rovers’ thread has once again turned into a Bartonfest. I don't get how people can still have unabashed man love for Barton. Dude was a prick and not exactly incredible either when it came to tactics and such. I swear I think some believe we would be top 4 right now if he had stayed. He is gone, thank f**k for that. Time to get behind Taylor. Did you get to know him when he was at Exeter? Also, will he be bringing Wayne Carlisle with him?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2023 17:47:58 GMT
1 PPM would have kept them up. Reading went down on 44 Sorry, I meant to put in a normal season without points deductions. Would have been enough in 4 out of 5 seasons before last year as well.
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Post by daniel300380 on Nov 30, 2023 17:48:08 GMT
I read the Rotherham forum after he was sacked and they were all saying what a great manager he was despite the fact that his points reward was terrible. Did they mention reasons for not winning away in a year and conceding 2 goals a game this season? I'm not sure why you are so against Taylor. You are making comments like, he has only won 4 games at League 1 level. Yet, previously you wanted us to appoint a manager that had never managed at League 1 level. You have suggested managers that have only managed abroad and when you wanted Garner, he had no experience at all. I was not bothered if we appointed Monk, Robinson or Taylor. They all had plus points and negative points. Without interviewing them, I wouldn't know who to pick out of the three. Regarding Taylor, he massively over achieved at Exeter playing his football. He didn't do that well at Rotherham on paper, but their fans still rated him. They suffered a lot of injuries and he was trying to improve their playing style with a small budget. Hopefully he will learn from it and will feel more at home, being back in the southwest. Hopefully he can develop some of our youngsters and do what he did at Exeter at a higher level. I think your football knowledge is fantastic. But sometimes you contradict yourself. Hopefully this manager will be a success, as you are against him 😂.
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Post by olskooltoteender on Nov 30, 2023 17:52:03 GMT
The problem here is that our Owners have allowed a relationship to be created between Mangan and the players when if we had moved swiftly that would not have happened. Whoever the new Manager and coaching staff are they will have remotivate the players and restore confidence in the club,it will be a bumpy ride if you don't control the dressing room The stupidity of this is it was avoidable. Like I said elsewhere, not “football people”; although where Wael has been during all this would be interesting to know . . . I personally think that they didn’t want Barton as he clearly had a very close relationship with Wael and they want their own man with allegiance to them, not Wael. And don’t forget Wael allowed Barton a huge amount of free rein to change and shape the club, so that may have been a little too much power for the new owners to stomach being in someone else’s hands. And now we’re 5 weeks into this f*cking circus!
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Post by pirate on Nov 30, 2023 17:56:18 GMT
Did they mention reasons for not winning away in a year and conceding 2 goals a game this season? I'm not sure why you are so against Taylor. You are making comments like, he has only won 4 games at League 1 level. Yet, previously you wanted us to appoint a manager that had never managed at League 1 level. You have suggested managers that have only managed abroad and when you wanted Garner, he had no experience at all. I was not bothered if we appointed Monk, Robinson or Taylor. They all had plus points and negative points. Without interviewing them, I wouldn't know who to pick out of the three. Regarding Taylor, he massively over achieved at Exeter playing his football. He didn't do that well at Rotherham on paper, but their fans still rated him. They suffered a lot of injuries and he was trying to improve their playing style with a small budget. Hopefully he will learn from it and will feel more at home, being back in the southwest. Hopefully he can develop some of our youngsters and do what he did at Exeter at a higher level. I think your football knowledge is fantastic. But sometimes you contradict yourself. Hopefully this manager will be a success, as you are against him 😂. I'm not against Taylor, I've previously said numerous times he did a good job in League Two with Exeter, I'm just not convinced that with his lack of experience mentioned previously, he is a significant enough upgrade and improvement on the previous incumbent. Whole different ball game managing Exeter and their smaller budgets and expectations.
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Post by oasisgas on Nov 30, 2023 17:57:12 GMT
As if the eventual ‘welcome to rovers’ thread has once again turned into a Bartonfest. They’re still grieving, dude. They’ll move on to acceptance soon. To be honest though there seems to be a few fans who did not like Barton who also seem to have a problem with Taylor while there are others like myself who supported Barton who are happy that its Matt Taylor. You only have to look on here today that there is a number of posts regarding Barton and its from fans who didn't really take to him. Hopefully once Taylor is announced a line can be drawn because from what I can see a number of posters on here and social media still can't let it go and move on.
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Post by badengas on Nov 30, 2023 17:57:23 GMT
The problem here is that our Owners have allowed a relationship to be created between Mangan and the players when if we had moved swiftly that would not have happened. Whoever the new Manager and coaching staff are they will have remotivate the players and restore confidence in the club,it will be a bumpy ride if you don't control the dressing room The stupidity of this is it was avoidable. Like I said elsewhere, not “football people”; although where Wael has been during all this would be interesting to know . . . I personally think that they didn’t want Barton as he clearly had a very close relationship with Wael and they want their own man with allegiance to them, not Wael. And don’t forget Wael allowed Barton a huge amount of free rein to change and shape the club, so that may have been a little too much power for the new owners to stomach being in someone else’s hands. And now we’re 5 weeks into this f*cking circus! Is Billy Smart available ? Fred Karno ? If only we had a tent.
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Post by lastminutewinner on Nov 30, 2023 18:00:57 GMT
Exeter fans begrudgingly think Matt Taylor will be a good fit for us. It could go either way with anyone we appoint. You cannot say with any degree of certainty that one manager is better than another for us, as they are bringing in and managing a completely new set of players. You just hope those gas officials that are in meetings with the candidates are doing their due diligence, but even then you need luck to get a perfect fit.
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Post by olskooltoteender on Nov 30, 2023 18:01:23 GMT
Like I said elsewhere, not “football people”; although where Wael has been during all this would be interesting to know . . . I personally think that they didn’t want Barton as he clearly had a very close relationship with Wael and they want their own man with allegiance to them, not Wael. And don’t forget Wael allowed Barton a huge amount of free rein to change and shape the club, so that may have been a little too much power for the new owners to stomach being in someone else’s hands. And now we’re 5 weeks into this f*cking circus! Is Billy Smart available ? Fred Karno ? If only we had a tent. Well we seem to have a bunch of clowns in charge at the moment
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Post by keygas on Nov 30, 2023 18:05:33 GMT
Pleased with Matt Taylor if it is him as our new manager, whoever was announced there would be fans undecided, usually raking up the negatives rather than positives in their careers. I know it was league 2, but the number of times we played Exeter City & they outplayed us, I can remember saying to my son, I wish we had Taylor as our manager, so let’s see what he can achieve given time.
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Post by gasify on Nov 30, 2023 18:06:22 GMT
denial anger bargaining depression acceptance Come on, you've done so well over the last 5 weeks, just need acceptance and we can all move on. Weird post. I was never pro barton. I was content to move on and no longer be associated with the skeletons. But to judge the replacement without reference to the past is burying your head in the sand. To judge a replacement before he has even been announced is a weird post?
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Post by onefindunford on Nov 30, 2023 18:06:29 GMT
I don't get how people can still have unabashed man love for Barton. Dude was a prick and not exactly incredible either when it came to tactics and such. I swear I think some believe we would be top 4 right now if he had stayed. He is gone, thank f**k for that. Time to get behind Taylor. Did you get to know him when he was at Exeter? Also, will he be bringing Wayne Carlisle with him? Don’t try and spoil the illusion Dr F! UTG
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Post by trevorgas on Nov 30, 2023 18:08:17 GMT
5 weeks is crazy for sure but in what way is he less qualified than Barton? Taylor performed better in his promotion season than Barton, and he has experience in the Championship, being the first manager to keep Rotherham there since 2016 and the best performance for them since 2004. He has experience too of building a team and gaining promotion with it. Joey got promoted yes but it was absolutely hectic and was on the verge of getting sacked before going on an unbelievable run. Taylor has only managed 11 games and achieved 4 wins in his career at this level. Joey has a playoff finish in League One on his CV. They both have a League Two promotion on their CV, Joey's at the first time of asking. Taylor's recruitment this summer left a lot to be desired and that is after breaking the Rotherham transfer record. -No away wins at Rotherham in a year - a PPM average of 1.00 in first season that would have had them relegated over the course of a full season EDIT:(without points deductions) - a PPG average of 0.69 in 2nd season after breaking Rotherham transfer record - Average of 2 goals conceded per game this season - Sacked with only 2 wins in 16 games this season and cut adrift of 4th bottom in the relegation zone Does he have better contacts than the previous manager? Does he have more experience of the level? Does he have experience of similar sized budgets? What is his previous buying and selling record like in the transfer market? Is he able to attract a better standard of player? If it's him do you think it's a bad appointment?
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Nov 30, 2023 18:08:27 GMT
I'm not sure why you are so against Taylor. You are making comments like, he has only won 4 games at League 1 level. Yet, previously you wanted us to appoint a manager that had never managed at League 1 level. You have suggested managers that have only managed abroad and when you wanted Garner, he had no experience at all. I was not bothered if we appointed Monk, Robinson or Taylor. They all had plus points and negative points. Without interviewing them, I wouldn't know who to pick out of the three. Regarding Taylor, he massively over achieved at Exeter playing his football. He didn't do that well at Rotherham on paper, but their fans still rated him. They suffered a lot of injuries and he was trying to improve their playing style with a small budget. Hopefully he will learn from it and will feel more at home, being back in the southwest. Hopefully he can develop some of our youngsters and do what he did at Exeter at a higher level. I think your football knowledge is fantastic. But sometimes you contradict yourself. Hopefully this manager will be a success, as you are against him 😂. I'm not against Taylor, I've previously said numerous times he did a good job in League Two with Exeter, I'm just not convinced that with his lack of experience mentioned previously, he is a significant enough upgrade and improvement on the previous incumbent. Whole different ball game managing Exeter and their smaller budgets and expectations. If their records are similar, Taylor does have the advantage of not being Barton so he is definitely an upgrade. What's not to like?
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Post by DrFaustus on Nov 30, 2023 18:08:38 GMT
Completely underwhelmed if it's Taylor, but like most on here, my opinion doesn't count and he's now no doubt going to be a roaring success.
The pretend yank on here knows him better than most and could maybe help us out.
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Post by madgas on Nov 30, 2023 18:11:22 GMT
Weird post. I was never pro barton. I was content to move on and no longer be associated with the skeletons. But to judge the replacement without reference to the past is burying your head in the sand. To judge a replacement before he has even been announced is a weird post? By that logic appointing me or you would totally normal and not for criticism
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2023 18:13:24 GMT
Completely underwhelmed if it's Taylor, but like most on here, my opinion doesn't count and he's now.no doubt going to be a roaring success. The pretend yank on here knows him better than most and could maybe help us out. Who’s a pretend yank?
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Post by gasheadontour on Nov 30, 2023 18:14:33 GMT
Matt Taylor's assistants included former Rovers player Wayne Carlisle who is expected to be in charge of Rotherham until at least they play Leeds on Friday ñight. Seems Wayne Carlise hopes to stay as manager of Rotherham.
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