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Post by pirate on Nov 30, 2023 18:16:00 GMT
Taylor has only managed 11 games and achieved 4 wins in his career at this level. Joey has a playoff finish in League One on his CV. They both have a League Two promotion on their CV, Joey's at the first time of asking. Taylor's recruitment this summer left a lot to be desired and that is after breaking the Rotherham transfer record. -No away wins at Rotherham in a year - a PPM average of 1.00 in first season that would have had them relegated over the course of a full season EDIT:(without points deductions) - a PPG average of 0.69 in 2nd season after breaking Rotherham transfer record - Average of 2 goals conceded per game this season - Sacked with only 2 wins in 16 games this season and cut adrift of 4th bottom in the relegation zone Does he have better contacts than the previous manager? Does he have more experience of the level? Does he have experience of similar sized budgets? What is his previous buying and selling record like in the transfer market? Is he able to attract a better standard of player? If it's him do you think it's a bad appointment? An intriguing appointment. Could go either way. A lot will depend on the help and support structure around him and if the board invest in a proper scouting and recruitment department. As always, recruitment is key. I wish him the best of luck and hopefully he can do a good job for the club. Matt Taylor's Barmy Army. Up the Gas!
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Post by daniel300380 on Nov 30, 2023 18:16:26 GMT
I'm not sure why you are so against Taylor. You are making comments like, he has only won 4 games at League 1 level. Yet, previously you wanted us to appoint a manager that had never managed at League 1 level. You have suggested managers that have only managed abroad and when you wanted Garner, he had no experience at all. I was not bothered if we appointed Monk, Robinson or Taylor. They all had plus points and negative points. Without interviewing them, I wouldn't know who to pick out of the three. Regarding Taylor, he massively over achieved at Exeter playing his football. He didn't do that well at Rotherham on paper, but their fans still rated him. They suffered a lot of injuries and he was trying to improve their playing style with a small budget. Hopefully he will learn from it and will feel more at home, being back in the southwest. Hopefully he can develop some of our youngsters and do what he did at Exeter at a higher level. I think your football knowledge is fantastic. But sometimes you contradict yourself. Hopefully this manager will be a success, as you are against him 😂. I'm not against Taylor, I've previously said numerous times he did a good job in League Two with Exeter, I'm just not convinced that with his lack of experience mentioned previously, he is a significant enough upgrade and improvement on the previous incumbent. Whole different ball game managing Exeter and their smaller budgets and expectations. I get that, we won't know until he has been here a while. I just think, it's more similar to his Exeter job, than Rotherham and both of his past clubs speak highly of him. I just don't get you going on about his lack of League 1 experience, when you have wanted managers with no league 1 experience. Garner had no experience, but you wanted him. Now you are saying, you don't want Taylor as he has only won 4 games at this level. I think he the type of manager that will need time. But managers don't get that now!
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Post by yattongas on Nov 30, 2023 18:17:31 GMT
If it's him do you think it's a bad appointment? An intriguing appointment. Could go either way. A lot will depend on the help and support structure around him and if the board invest in a proper scouting and recruitment department. As always, recruitment is key. I wish him the best of luck and hopefully he can do a good job for the club. Matt Taylor's Barmy Army. Up the Gas! Talk about hedging your bets 🙄 Why write the previous post slating his record then ?
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Post by pirate on Nov 30, 2023 18:22:54 GMT
I'm not against Taylor, I've previously said numerous times he did a good job in League Two with Exeter, I'm just not convinced that with his lack of experience mentioned previously, he is a significant enough upgrade and improvement on the previous incumbent. Whole different ball game managing Exeter and their smaller budgets and expectations. I get that, we won't know until he has been here a while. I just think, it's more similar to his Exeter job, than Rotherham and both of his past clubs speak highly of him. I just don't get you going on about his lack of League 1 experience, when you have wanted managers with no league 1 experience. Garner had no experience, but you wanted him. Now you are saying, you don't want Taylor as he has only won 4 games at this level. I think he the type of manager that will need time. But managers don't get that now! It's not just the experience of games at this level, it's the experience of handling different budgets, egos and expectations. But like I said, can only wish him well, and even though he wouldn't have been my choice I'm looking forward to seeing what he can produce.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2023 18:24:16 GMT
I'm not against Taylor, I've previously said numerous times he did a good job in League Two with Exeter, I'm just not convinced that with his lack of experience mentioned previously, he is a significant enough upgrade and improvement on the previous incumbent. Whole different ball game managing Exeter and their smaller budgets and expectations. I get that, we won't know until he has been here a while. I just think, it's more similar to his Exeter job, than Rotherham and both of his past clubs speak highly of him. I just don't get you going on about his lack of League 1 experience, when you have wanted managers with no league 1 experience. Garner had no experience, but you wanted him. Now you are saying, you don't want Taylor as he has only won 4 games at this level. I think he the type of manager that will need time. But managers don't get that now! I’m not sure this job is comparable to either of them tbh.
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Post by gasheadontour on Nov 30, 2023 18:24:46 GMT
Wayne Carlise has mentioned about filling in as manager on occasions in the past. Presumably during times when he worked with Taylor. If so, then why was Taylor absent?
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Post by pirate on Nov 30, 2023 18:25:06 GMT
An intriguing appointment. Could go either way. A lot will depend on the help and support structure around him and if the board invest in a proper scouting and recruitment department. As always, recruitment is key. I wish him the best of luck and hopefully he can do a good job for the club. Matt Taylor's Barmy Army. Up the Gas! Talk about hedging your bets 🙄 Why write the previous post slating his record then ? Because I think his record at Rotherham is poor and thought it was worth highlighting considering we are a similar sized club with Championship aspirations.
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Post by wallywalters on Nov 30, 2023 18:25:30 GMT
Anyone have any decent knowledge on taylors playing style, formations etc?
I just remember his Exeter teams being very pacy and attacking with speed.
Also any decent Interviews he's gave would be appreciated 👍
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Post by daniel300380 on Nov 30, 2023 18:27:32 GMT
I get that, we won't know until he has been here a while. I just think, it's more similar to his Exeter job, than Rotherham and both of his past clubs speak highly of him. I just don't get you going on about his lack of League 1 experience, when you have wanted managers with no league 1 experience. Garner had no experience, but you wanted him. Now you are saying, you don't want Taylor as he has only won 4 games at this level. I think he the type of manager that will need time. But managers don't get that now! I’m not sure this job is comparable to either of them tbh. I would say us in League 1 is similar to Exeter in League 2. He was settled in the southwest and he said it was a hard decision to move away. He wanted to bring his son up in the southwest. I just think he would be more settled here and can try and play a similar style of football.
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Post by oasisgas on Nov 30, 2023 18:31:34 GMT
Rotherham fans hoping that we pay money out for his coaching team.
I know we are short if the rumours that all the coaching team have gone but hopefully Bond is still here and if thats the case then I would sit tight and see if the new Rotherham manager wants them because if he doesn't then surely they will have to pay them off??
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Post by gasify on Nov 30, 2023 18:31:52 GMT
To judge a replacement before he has even been announced is a weird post? By that logic appointing me or you would totally normal and not for criticism I'm up for it. You'll have to be the ass istant though.
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Post by Topper Gas on Nov 30, 2023 18:36:18 GMT
Interesting! Gone or just refusing to speak to press? Crewe will be loving this. Gonna need some leaders on the pitch to stand a chance Why do we need leaders on the pitch to cover up for the owners apparent failings off the pitch, if do we get knocked out of the cup it'll be the owners who lose financially not the fans. We blamed TG for the new stand & JCH signing failings but I can't see he's responsible for the latest farce.
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Post by rocknrollaayatollah on Nov 30, 2023 18:38:58 GMT
Anyone have any decent knowledge on taylors playing style, formations etc? I just remember his Exeter teams being very pacy and attacking with speed. Also any decent Interviews he's gave would be appreciated 👍 Taylor on his tactical 'style'... "You play a way that suits your best players. "At Exeter City over the last couple of seasons we've played a 3-5-2 which is what Rotherham have played recently. "We like to get balls close to the opposition goal and into the opposition box. "We also like to play good football. "Here at Rotherham it is about picking up points but we still want to give young players a chance like we did at Exeter. "We want to entertain the fans but we don't need to change too much because this team has been entertaining the fans for a number of seasons now. "We'll fine tune certain details and we'll give them the belief they need to compete at this level." That's from his first interview at Rotherham. Doesn't really say much...
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Post by dcr on Nov 30, 2023 18:42:06 GMT
Anyone have any decent knowledge on taylors playing style, formations etc? I just remember his Exeter teams being very pacy and attacking with speed. Also any decent Interviews he's gave would be appreciated 👍
We will need a complete change of squad for that.
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Post by Topper Gas on Nov 30, 2023 18:42:33 GMT
I get that, we won't know until he has been here a while. I just think, it's more similar to his Exeter job, than Rotherham and both of his past clubs speak highly of him. I just don't get you going on about his lack of League 1 experience, when you have wanted managers with no league 1 experience. Garner had no experience, but you wanted him. Now you are saying, you don't want Taylor as he has only won 4 games at this level. I think he the type of manager that will need time. But managers don't get that now! I’m not sure this job is comparable to either of them tbh. The Rovers job always seems a difficult one whoever we employ, we need somebody like Holloway (but not him!) who can get to grips with the job, I can't see it's anything like managing a, usually, well oiled machine like Exeter. Particularly if JB's probably caused havoc with his no holds barred approach.
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Post by Topper Gas on Nov 30, 2023 18:44:25 GMT
Anyone have any decent knowledge on taylors playing style, formations etc? I just remember his Exeter teams being very pacy and attacking with speed. Also any decent Interviews he's gave would be appreciated 👍
We will need a complete change of squad for that.
Then again Brown was one of the stars of the team last season and he's probably the laziest and slowest player in the present squad.
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Post by yattongas on Nov 30, 2023 18:55:37 GMT
We will need a complete change of squad for that.
Then again Brown was one of the stars of the team last season and he's probably the laziest and slowest player in the present squad. He’s not bloody slow !
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Post by wallywalters on Nov 30, 2023 18:55:42 GMT
Anyone have any decent knowledge on taylors playing style, formations etc? I just remember his Exeter teams being very pacy and attacking with speed. Also any decent Interviews he's gave would be appreciated 👍 Taylor on his tactical 'style'... "You play a way that suits your best players. "At Exeter City over the last couple of seasons we've played a 3-5-2 which is what Rotherham have played recently. "We like to get balls close to the opposition goal and into the opposition box. "We also like to play good football. "Here at Rotherham it is about picking up points but we still want to give young players a chance like we did at Exeter. "We want to entertain the fans but we don't need to change too much because this team has been entertaining the fans for a number of seasons now. "We'll fine tune certain details and we'll give them the belief they need to compete at this level." That's from his first interview at Rotherham. Doesn't really say much... Thanks. Never been a fan of 352 personally.
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Post by madgas on Nov 30, 2023 18:56:26 GMT
They’re still grieving, dude. They’ll move on to acceptance soon. To be honest though there seems to be a few fans who did not like Barton who also seem to have a problem with Taylor while there are others like myself who supported Barton who are happy that its Matt Taylor. You only have to look on here today that there is a number of posts regarding Barton and its from fans who didn't really take to him. Hopefully once Taylor is announced a line can be drawn because from what I can see a number of posters on here and social media still can't let it go and move on. I think this is useful. My comparison with the ex manager wasn't meant to be pro Barton. I'm content the association is over. He achieved some good but talking with my non Bristol Rovers fans was tough. The point was to review the whole process: Per the owners we sacked the previous manager due to points. (League position) they said they wanted the replacement to be someone who had experience of getting teams promoted and of championship football. I'm not sure Taylors experience of championship football is great but arguably ticked... the point really is what if Taylor didn't become avaliable because if he doesn't get sacked he's not coming here... its been a shambles. I feel the anti Barton mob want to make this about him whilst claiming hijack. This is simply a review of what we were told versus what we're getting. I'm usually the rose tinter. All of sudden everyone's an expert in Matt Taylors "great style" we played 2 leagues against his exeter team. I'm just a little more sceptical of this fact.
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Post by Topper Gas on Nov 30, 2023 18:57:00 GMT
Then again Brown was one of the stars of the team last season and he's probably the laziest and slowest player in the present squad. He’s not bloody slow ! Has he ever broken out of a jog whilst at Rovers? After all the hype he must be one of the most disappointing signings made by JB.
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