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Post by ricardo on Oct 31, 2023 12:12:18 GMT
If we're just going to start listing managers that we definitely are not getting from abroad then I'm going with Magne Hoseth Ernesto Erbstein for me. Plays good football with a limited budget, sure he's been dead for 74 years but we've certainly got more of a chance of getting him than others listed. Jack Beby for me, achieved great things at AEK Athens. |
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Post by warehamgas on Oct 31, 2023 12:16:07 GMT
I'd rather have Wee Jock McPlop' the lavatory attendant from Aberdeen over Holden! Good shout. I presume he has a win % of 44% in the Championship and 37% in League 1 as well. Seriously, not saying we should appoint Holden but his figures aren’t as bad as others are making out. As for the 1982Ltd connections we’d have been bu****** this last week without a goals from a certain person. Let’s go through a process and appoint the best candidate whoever it is. (And I don’t think it will be Holden) UTG! |
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Post by chewbacca on Oct 31, 2023 12:36:22 GMT
Ernesto Erbstein for me. Plays good football with a limited budget, sure he's been dead for 74 years but we've certainly got more of a chance of getting him than others listed. Jack Beby for me, achieved great things at AEK Athens. WYHHB? |
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Post by pirate on Oct 31, 2023 12:54:37 GMT
Davide Possanzini is doing well and catching the eye in Italy. Roberto De Zerbi's assistant head coach at Shakhtar Donetsk and De Zerbi's long-term assistant and protégé also worked with him at Sassuolo, Benevento, and Palermo. A highly-rated coach, he is catching the eye with his style of football and results as manager of Serie C side Mantova with a 72.73% win percentage having won 8 out his first 11 games, drawing 2 and losing just 1 game to accumulate 26 points, scoring 18 goals and conceding just 7. A left field shout, but hopefully we are exploring all options at home AND abroad.
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Post by warehamgas on Oct 31, 2023 13:08:07 GMT
Davide Possanzini is doing well and catching the eye in Italy. Roberto De Zerbi's assistant head coach at Shakhtar Donetsk and De Zerbi's long-term assistant and protégé also worked with him at Sassuolo, Benevento, and Palermo. A highly-rated coach, he is catching the eye with his style of football and results as manager of Serie C side Mantova with a 72.73% win percentage having won 8 out his first 11 games, drawing 2 and losing just 1 game to accumulate 26 points, scoring 18 goals and conceding just 7. A left field shout, but hopefully we are exploring all options at home AND abroad.We should be exploring abroad pirate but sometimes it seems, even on here, that some managers are seen as northern ones or southern ones who aren’t prepared to move within the UK. I always think the money persuades most players, perhaps managers are different. But perhaps foreign managers looking to locate and gain experience are more willing to move. But yes, I’ve always been surprised that so few foreign coaches are found in Leagues 1 and 2. Seems like QPR are going the foreign coach route, albeit on a Spaniard at a high level in Denmark. And can you imagine what the reaction on here would be like? (I’m already liking your suggestion, it could be another entertaining thread like the Transfer Deadline evening on here! Esp if there’s nothing on the telly. 😉) Excellent. UTG! |
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Post by pirate on Oct 31, 2023 13:20:00 GMT
Davide Possanzini is doing well and catching the eye in Italy. Roberto De Zerbi's assistant head coach at Shakhtar Donetsk and De Zerbi's long-term assistant and protégé also worked with him at Sassuolo, Benevento, and Palermo. A highly-rated coach, he is catching the eye with his style of football and results as manager of Serie C side Mantova with a 72.73% win percentage having won 8 out his first 11 games, drawing 2 and losing just 1 game to accumulate 26 points, scoring 18 goals and conceding just 7. A left field shout, but hopefully we are exploring all options at home AND abroad.We should be exploring abroad pirate but sometimes it seems, even on here, that some managers are seen as northern ones or southern ones who aren’t prepared to move within the UK. I always think the money persuades most players, perhaps managers are different. But perhaps foreign managers looking to locate and gain experience are more willing to move. But yes, I’ve always been surprised that so few foreign coaches are found in Leagues 1 and 2. Seems like QPR are going the foreign coach route, albeit on a Dane at a high level in Denmark. And can you imagine what the reaction on here would be like? (I’m already liking your suggestion, it could be another entertaining thread like the Transfer Deadline evening on here! Esp if there’s nothing on the telly. 😉) Excellent. UTG! I was trying to think of someone who would suit and get the best out of the players we have and Possanzini fits the bill. He seemingly plays the type of football Barton wanted to play. If you have a director of football and chief scout with an in-depth knowledge of players in this country, I think a foreign coach could work if he fits the profile we are looking for. I'm not bothered where they are from though and could be from Margate or Mars, I just want the best possible man for the job. |
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Post by chewbacca on Oct 31, 2023 13:25:16 GMT
We should be exploring abroad pirate but sometimes it seems, even on here, that some managers are seen as northern ones or southern ones who aren’t prepared to move within the UK. I always think the money persuades most players, perhaps managers are different. But perhaps foreign managers looking to locate and gain experience are more willing to move. But yes, I’ve always been surprised that so few foreign coaches are found in Leagues 1 and 2. Seems like QPR are going the foreign coach route, albeit on a Dane at a high level in Denmark. And can you imagine what the reaction on here would be like? (I’m already liking your suggestion, it could be another entertaining thread like the Transfer Deadline evening on here! Esp if there’s nothing on the telly. 😉) Excellent. UTG! I was trying to think of someone who would suit and get the best out of the players we have and Possanzini fits the bill. He seemingly plays the type of football Barton wanted to play. If you have a director of football and chief scout with an in-depth knowledge of players in this country, I think a foreign coach could work if he fits the profile we are looking for. I'm not bothered where they are from though and could be from Margate or Mars, I just want the best possible man for the job. You're expecting the club to have someone with an in-depth knowledge? |
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Post by nailseamark on Oct 31, 2023 13:27:42 GMT
Yes but, at the risk of invoking the ire of the Barton haters, Cotterill’s an arrogant prat. I’ve never liked him. His playing the victim over mean words last time at the mem, after his team served up the most disgraceful display of cheating and time wasting I’ve ever seen at a football match really did seal his fate in my eyes as a w*****r. . Was there too,.. I would hate for us to be that side. Falling down all over place, wasting time. It really embarrassing. That was truly the worst game of football I’ve ever seen. I didn’t go for a whole after that I was so disgusted. |
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Post by pirate on Oct 31, 2023 13:28:50 GMT
I was trying to think of someone who would suit and get the best out of the players we have and Possanzini fits the bill. He seemingly plays the type of football Barton wanted to play. If you have a director of football and chief scout with an in-depth knowledge of players in this country, I think a foreign coach could work if he fits the profile we are looking for. I'm not bothered where they are from though and could be from Margate or Mars, I just want the best possible man for the job. You're expecting the club to have someone with an in-depth knowledge? My bad. 🤦🏻♂️😆 |
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Post by playtowin on Oct 31, 2023 13:29:45 GMT
Darren Ferguson is an excellent league one manager. Record speaks for itself. If we're presently interviewing the likes of Holden then can you really see the BoD head hunting Fergie? I'd imagine he's more than happy being back at Posh anyway. The chairman did say they had people in mind and inferred one or more may already be in a job. DF still young has l1 and champ experience and promotion on the CV. Though does seem DF fits well at Posh and not been as good elsewhere. KJ has a pretty good win ratio at clubs he has been at...who knows. Dean Holden doesnt seem to tick any of the boxes really so would be very surprised if he is the choice. |
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Post by chewbacca on Oct 31, 2023 13:36:47 GMT
You're expecting the club to have someone with an in-depth knowledge? My bad. 🤦🏻♂️😆 I think appointing a manager is the least of our worries tbh, it's pretty obvious there's a lack of nouse at board level when it comes to football decisions. I'd like to see someone come in short term as a consultant for the process, then long term look at a structure around the football side of the club with regards to a potential DoF/Head of Football Operations role being created. Managers/Coaches come and go but a proper set up regarding styles of football and recruitment of both players and managers/coaches is desperately needed. |
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Post by chewbacca on Oct 31, 2023 13:38:21 GMT
Kenny Jackett Darren Ferguesson Might be names on a list. Darren Ferguson is an excellent league one manager. Record speaks for itself. Speaking of records, here's his criminal one. Like for like replacement.  |
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Post by baggins on Oct 31, 2023 13:56:01 GMT
I think appointing a manager is the least of our worries tbh, it's pretty obvious there's a lack of nouse at board level when it comes to football decisions. I'd like to see someone come in short term as a consultant for the process, then long term look at a structure around the football side of the club with regards to a potential DoF/Head of Football Operations role being created. Managers/Coaches come and go but a proper set up regarding styles of football and recruitment of both players and managers/coaches is desperately needed. Short term Consultant with a look to Head of Football Operations and recruitment. We're a Lg1 Club not Microsoft. |
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Post by pirate on Oct 31, 2023 13:57:04 GMT
I think appointing a manager is the least of our worries tbh, it's pretty obvious there's a lack of nouse at board level when it comes to football decisions. I'd like to see someone come in short term as a consultant for the process, then long term look at a structure around the football side of the club with regards to a potential DoF/Head of Football Operations role being created. Managers/Coaches come and go but a proper set up regarding styles of football and recruitment of both players and managers/coaches is desperately needed. I couldn't agree more. People like Gerry Francis and Tony Pulis with vast experience and knowledge would be good brains to tap into, or similar. We have apparently used AnalyticsFC before and tools like that could and should be used for a filtering process. They created a model that rates coaches based on their ability to improve their teams and takes into account of past performance, performance against budget and expectations, playing style and their impact on individuals. analyticsfc.co.uk/coach-id/ |
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Post by chewbacca on Oct 31, 2023 14:17:41 GMT
I think appointing a manager is the least of our worries tbh, it's pretty obvious there's a lack of nouse at board level when it comes to football decisions. I'd like to see someone come in short term as a consultant for the process, then long term look at a structure around the football side of the club with regards to a potential DoF/Head of Football Operations role being created. Managers/Coaches come and go but a proper set up regarding styles of football and recruitment of both players and managers/coaches is desperately needed. Short term Consultant with a look to Head of Football Operations and recruitment. We're a Lg1 Club not Microsoft. So you want the son of a financier and a real estate developer to make the decision? God knows why Microsoft would have a Head of Football Operations. Very daft. Try harder. |
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Post by baggins on Oct 31, 2023 14:23:36 GMT
Short term Consultant with a look to Head of Football Operations and recruitment. We're a Lg1 Club not Microsoft. So you want the son of a financier and a real estate developer to make the decision? God knows why Microsoft would have a Head of Football Operations. Very daft. Try harder. The Club have people in place to cover that, finances allowing. How much money to cover your plan? |
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Post by chewbacca on Oct 31, 2023 14:35:47 GMT
So you want the son of a financier and a real estate developer to make the decision? God knows why Microsoft would have a Head of Football Operations. Very daft. Try harder. The Club have people in place to cover that, finances allowing. How much money to cover your plan? Dunno tenner? It's a forum, do you realistically want a business plan? |
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Post by baggins on Oct 31, 2023 14:54:50 GMT
The Club have people in place to cover that, finances allowing. How much money to cover your plan? Dunno tenner? It's a forum, do you realistically want a business plan? You don't know? It's your plan. More than a new Manager? More than the cost of of the South Stand? Give us a figure. |
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Post by chewbacca on Oct 31, 2023 14:57:06 GMT
Dunno tenner? It's a forum, do you realistically want a business plan? You don't know? It's your plan. More than a new Manager? More than the cost of of the South Stand? Give us a figure. Just said, tenner. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Oct 31, 2023 15:22:45 GMT
I think appointing a manager is the least of our worries tbh, it's pretty obvious there's a lack of nouse at board level when it comes to football decisions. I'd like to see someone come in short term as a consultant for the process, then long term look at a structure around the football side of the club with regards to a potential DoF/Head of Football Operations role being created. Managers/Coaches come and go but a proper set up regarding styles of football and recruitment of both players and managers/coaches is desperately needed. Short term Consultant with a look to Head of Football Operations and recruitment. We're a Lg1 Club not Microsoft. Eddie Jennings was already HoF and it's anybody's guess what Colin Gibson did/still does at the club. |
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