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Post by pirate on Oct 31, 2023 15:33:41 GMT
 The 41-year-old Thomas Wörle is another interesting overseas manager. Following a successful 9 year spell as the Bayern Munich Women's Team manager he started managing SSV Ulm 1846 on 1 July 2021. Wörle guided Ulm to a second place finish in the 4th tier 21/22 Regionalliga Südwest season. In the 22/23 season Ulm won the Regionalliga Südwest and promotion to the 23/24 3. Liga, where they currently sit in 3rd place. Wörle has managed 95 games for SSV Ulm, winning 60, drawing 19, losing 16, with 189 goals scored, 88 conceded, a +101 goal difference, 2.09 PPM and 63.16% win percentage.  |
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Post by baggins on Oct 31, 2023 15:36:29 GMT
You don't know? It's your plan. More than a new Manager? More than the cost of of the South Stand? Give us a figure. Just said, tenner. So you've just spouted off, no idea what you're on about. Good one. Another one to add to the list. |
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Post by chewbacca on Oct 31, 2023 15:38:10 GMT
So you've just spouted off, no idea what you're on about. Good one. Another one to add to the list. Proper bizarre posting. Great stuff. Keep it up dafty. |
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Post by curlywurly on Oct 31, 2023 15:42:27 GMT
Short term Consultant with a look to Head of Football Operations and recruitment. We're a Lg1 Club not Microsoft. Eddie Jennings was already HoF and it's anybody's guess what Colin Gibson did/still does at the club. I'd assumed that EJ and CG were joined at the hip to Joey, and departed with him last week. I have no evidence for this! |
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Post by RD on Oct 31, 2023 15:43:28 GMT
So you've just spouted off, no idea what you're on about. Good one. Another one to add to the list. Think you're being a bit harsh bags personally. He's not suggesting we permanently sign some crazy expensive consultant. He's suggesting we engage with one - for a very short spell - to help us with the appointment. At a guess, you'd imagine any such relationship would only exist for a maximum of a few weeks. Now whilst that may still cost a fair bit (at a guess anywhere from 10k - 50k - 100k?), that could be a drop in the water compared to getting it wrong and having to shell out severance pay to keep our garden tidy. |
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Post by curlywurly on Oct 31, 2023 15:52:39 GMT
The 41-year-old Thomas Wörle is another interesting overseas manager. Following a successful 9 year spell as the Bayern Munich Women's Team manager he started managing SSV Ulm 1846 on 1 July 2021. Wörle guided Ulm to a second place finish in the 4th tier 21/22 Regionalliga Südwest season. In the 22/23 season Ulm won the Regionalliga Südwest and promotion to the 23/24 3. Liga, where they currently sit in 3rd place. Wörle has managed 95 games for SSV Ulm, winning 60, drawing 19, losing 16, with 189 goals scored, 88 conceded, a +101 goal difference, 2.09 PPM and 63.16% win percentage. It might seem unlikely for overs to appoint a manager that is not from the UK, but over 1/4 of managers in the PL and EFL are not from the UK. This rises to 60% of premier league managers.
Just wondering whether we have the contacts (beyond Jordan and Kuwait) to attract a manager like Wörle or some of the others mentioned. From what was said by Hussain AlSaeed, I think it more likely to be someone closer to home.
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Post by baggins on Oct 31, 2023 15:57:48 GMT
So you've just spouted off, no idea what you're on about. Good one. Another one to add to the list. Proper bizarre posting. Great stuff. Keep it up dafty. Just keep your dribble going, it's almost entertaining. |
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Post by baggins on Oct 31, 2023 15:59:34 GMT
So you've just spouted off, no idea what you're on about. Good one. Another one to add to the list. Think you're being a bit harsh bags personally. He's not suggesting we permanently sign some crazy expensive consultant. He's suggesting we engage with one - for a very short spell - to help us with the appointment. At a guess, you'd imagine any such relationship would only exist for a maximum of a few weeks. Now whilst that may still cost a fair bit (at a guess anywhere from 10k - 50k - 100k?), that could be a drop in the water compared to getting it wrong and having to shell out severance pay to keep our garden tidy. Ah, another £10, 50, 100k. Brilliant. How about we just get a decent Manager in to steer us forward? |
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Post by willytopp84 on Oct 31, 2023 16:24:57 GMT
I would love Ainsworth! Don't really fancy Dean Holden the more I think about it I'd rather have Nigel Pearson😂
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Post by RD on Oct 31, 2023 16:32:50 GMT
Think you're being a bit harsh bags personally. He's not suggesting we permanently sign some crazy expensive consultant. He's suggesting we engage with one - for a very short spell - to help us with the appointment. At a guess, you'd imagine any such relationship would only exist for a maximum of a few weeks. Now whilst that may still cost a fair bit (at a guess anywhere from 10k - 50k - 100k?), that could be a drop in the water compared to getting it wrong and having to shell out severance pay to keep our garden tidy. Ah, another £10, 50, 100k. Brilliant. How about we just get a decent Manager in to steer us forward? Ah yes - simple as that. Why stop there, we'll just magic one up - poof! There he is; in charge leading us to European glory in 5-7 years! It's actually quite fun being needlessly flippant. Might do this more often. Thanks! |
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Post by baggins on Oct 31, 2023 16:39:21 GMT
Ah, another £10, 50, 100k. Brilliant. How about we just get a decent Manager in to steer us forward? Ah yes - simple as that. Why stop there, we'll just magic one up - poof! There he is; in charge leading us to European glory in 5-7 years! It's actually quite fun being needlessly flippant. Might do this more often. Thanks! Beats spending £100k on a Consultant for a few months. |
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Post by Dirt Dogg on Oct 31, 2023 16:40:01 GMT
Out of interest can anyone remember how long it took us to hire Barton after Tisdale’s sacking?
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Post by chewbacca on Oct 31, 2023 16:47:07 GMT
Out of interest can anyone remember how long it took us to hire Barton after Tisdale’s sacking? Couple of months according Baggins. |
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Post by RD on Oct 31, 2023 16:50:58 GMT
Ah yes - simple as that. Why stop there, we'll just magic one up - poof! There he is; in charge leading us to European glory in 5-7 years! It's actually quite fun being needlessly flippant. Might do this more often. Thanks! Beats spending £100k on a Consultant for a few months. 1) It won't be a few months - utter garbage 2) It almost certainly wouldn't be £100k for what is likely to be a few WEEKS worth of work 3) Even if it was £100k, if it got us the right appointment and led us to promotion to the Championship vs. getting it wrong and taking us to relegation it would be the best 100k we've ever spent No need to worry though. Finding the perfect manager is a walk in the park, right? I've absolutely no doubts whatsoever that our completely inexperienced owners, who have never appointed a football manager in their life, and have very little working knowledge of this league will get it absolutely spot on |
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Post by gascloud on Oct 31, 2023 16:52:03 GMT
Get a consultant to help get the right man eh. What if the consultant is the wrong man? It’s not an exact science is it, employing a football manager. Some work some don’t. The guys in charge just need to feel like they can trust the new man and look at his CV and we have to suck it and see from there. Taking your time or paying for consultants guarantees sweet fa. As fans we will be split down the middle whoever it is who gets the nod. We will then have to wait and see if it all clicks. Too simple?
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Post by RD on Oct 31, 2023 16:54:13 GMT
Get a consultant to help get the right man eh. What if the consultant is the wrong man? It’s not an exact science is it, employing a football manager. Some work some don’t. The guys in charge just need to feel like they can trust the new man and look at his CV and we have to suck it and see from there. Taking your time or paying for consultants guarantees sweet fa. As fans we will be split down the middle whoever it is who gets the nod. We will then have to wait and see if it all clicks. Too simple? Absolutely. But it does in theory de-risk it. Fact is, you have a better chance of making the right appointment if you are looking for the right things. We may roll the dice and get it spot on. But these guys have never appointed a football manager in their life, and have very little working knowledge of this league (or English football for that matter). Like anything in life, you have to weigh up the outlay, sure. But if we could get some experts in for say, £20k to assist, that would be prudent on the face of it. I mean, let's be honest - we failed to work a fax machine and seemingly didn't know about the laws of the game (in regards to the extension). So it's not exactly a shock that some of us have concerns over their ability to nail this appointment. |
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Post by baggins on Oct 31, 2023 16:55:55 GMT
Beats spending £100k on a Consultant for a few months. 1) It won't be a few months - utter garbage 2) It almost certainly wouldn't be £100k for what is likely to be a few WEEKS worth of work 3) Even if it was £100k, if it got us the right appointment and led us to promotion to the Championship vs. getting it wrong and taking us to relegation it would be the best 100k we've ever spent No need to worry though. Finding the perfect manager is a walk in the park, right? I've absolutely no doubts whatsoever that our completely inexperienced owners, who have never appointed a football manager in their life, and have very little working knowledge of this league will get it absolutely spot on You do know Wael is still there right? And you're the one who mentioned £100k, not me, and where's this £100k coming from? Oh yes, the inexperienced owners. How nice of you to spend their money for them when they've made it clear that their priorities are new Manager and Mem development. I can't be bothered with this anymore. |
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Post by gasandelectricity on Oct 31, 2023 16:59:44 GMT
We dont need consultants.
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Post by pirate on Oct 31, 2023 17:01:26 GMT
The 41-year-old Thomas Wörle is another interesting overseas manager. Following a successful 9 year spell as the Bayern Munich Women's Team manager he started managing SSV Ulm 1846 on 1 July 2021. Wörle guided Ulm to a second place finish in the 4th tier 21/22 Regionalliga Südwest season. In the 22/23 season Ulm won the Regionalliga Südwest and promotion to the 23/24 3. Liga, where they currently sit in 3rd place. Wörle has managed 95 games for SSV Ulm, winning 60, drawing 19, losing 16, with 189 goals scored, 88 conceded, a +101 goal difference, 2.09 PPM and 63.16% win percentage. It might seem unlikely for overs to appoint a manager that is not from the UK, but over 1/4 of managers in the PL and EFL are not from the UK. This rises to 60% of premier league managers.
Just wondering whether we have the contacts (beyond Jordan and Kuwait) to attract a manager like Wörle or some of the others mentioned. From what was said by Hussain AlSaeed, I think it more likely to be someone closer to home.
We could contact someone like Gary Penrice and tap into his knowledge and contacts for references. In a Bristol Post interview a few years back he said: "I also had my own scouting project, which is one of the biggest in Europe. And I do it all from home. I have never moved house in 27 years, and currently live in the Cotswolds, so not far away from Bristol." I don't think you necessarily need contacts to identify the man and then put feelers out to his agent and see if there is any interest. |
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Post by daniel300380 on Oct 31, 2023 17:10:38 GMT
It might seem unlikely for overs to appoint a manager that is not from the UK, but over 1/4 of managers in the PL and EFL are not from the UK. This rises to 60% of premier league managers.
Just wondering whether we have the contacts (beyond Jordan and Kuwait) to attract a manager like Wörle or some of the others mentioned. From what was said by Hussain AlSaeed, I think it more likely to be someone closer to home.
We could contact someone like Gary Penrice and tap into his knowledge and contacts for references. In a Bristol Post interview a few years back he said: "I also had my own scouting project, which is one of the biggest in Europe. And I do it all from home. I have never moved house in 27 years, and currently live in the Cotswolds, so not far away from Bristol." I don't think you necessarily need contacts to identify the man and then put feelers out to his agent and see if there is any interest. Are you reaviling your identity?? 😂 |
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