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Post by Gassy on Nov 1, 2023 12:33:49 GMT
If Holloway is being considered.... just wow. Love the bloke, Gas legend. But way past his best now. Totally failed at Grimsby last time out and would surely be a disaster of epic proportions if he did come back Honestly, if Holloway is appointed I genuinely give up
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2023 12:36:21 GMT
If Holloway is being considered.... just wow. Love the bloke, Gas legend. But way past his best now. Totally failed at Grimsby last time out and would surely be a disaster of epic proportions if he did come back Honestly, if Holloway is appointed I genuinely give up I respect the both of you as posters and don’t think I am mad, I’d rather not have Ollie but then if we got a few wins, momentum and all that, the Mem would be rocking! I’m warming to the idea at the same time, I’m a romantic!
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Post by alanrg on Nov 1, 2023 12:39:35 GMT
A big no for me regarding Ollie the old saying is never go back it did not work with Gerry Francis
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2023 12:44:31 GMT
A big no for me regarding Ollie the old saying is never go back it did not work with Gerry Francis Fair comment to be fair, add in John Ward as well. Tryout to offer balance here before I take pelters off RD and Gassy!
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Post by kruger on Nov 1, 2023 12:45:28 GMT
I won't lie,I'd love him back until the end of the season and see how it goes then we either stick with him or look again, with Gerry Francis let's be honest he was never interested in coming back in the 1st place, that's why it didn't work
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Post by js67 on Nov 1, 2023 12:49:41 GMT
I won't lie,I'd love him back until the end of the season and see how it goes then we either stick with him or look again, with Gerry Francis let's be honest he was never interested in coming back in the 1st place, that's why it didn't work Grimsby were a basket case of a club during covid when Ollie went there, beyond penniless at the time , budget non existent, happy to have him on board with young , progressive assistant alongside him.
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Post by legas on Nov 1, 2023 12:50:49 GMT
Apologies if already posted but not been following this closely in the last few days, but might Ollie be considered in a DoF type role, with a younger manager alongside (worked when we had Trollope and Lennie)?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2023 12:53:06 GMT
Cotterill and Ollie are absolutely 'No' from me - One because we have had three years driven by emotions and the other because he is a complete tw@t and his last football team were a total disgrace.
Holden + Robinson - No but more chance than the other two.
Appointing an overseas managers flys in the face of what the owner said ... " Someone Younger who has seen success in L1 and possibly even above"
No idea where the new face will come from....I would not be surprised at all if Gareth Ainsworth was now on our radar.
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Post by DrFaustus on Nov 1, 2023 12:53:29 GMT
I think Holloway would be an unmitigated disaster. If we want to move forward and eventually sustain ourselves in the Championship, the appointment of a football dinosaur can only be destructive.
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Post by TAGas on Nov 1, 2023 12:56:35 GMT
I still stand by Leam Richardson
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Post by RD on Nov 1, 2023 12:56:49 GMT
Honestly, if Holloway is appointed I genuinely give up I respect the both of you as posters and don’t think I am mad, I’d rather not have Ollie but then if we got a few wins, momentum and all that, the Mem would be rocking! I’m warming to the idea at the same time, I’m a romantic! No I get it, and I'd love it IF it worked out. But I think its highly unlikely it would IMO. We don't have a great track record of going back with managers. Chances are it would be a failure. Just not worth the risk IMO.
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Post by wallywalters on Nov 1, 2023 12:57:26 GMT
I think Holloway would be an unmitigated disaster. If we want to move forward and eventually sustain ourselves in the Championship, the appointment of a football dinosaur can only be destructive. Couldn't agree more. Yet another person I've read us interviewing that I can't understand why we'd waste our time. 🤷 Has been a disaster at his most recent managerial appointments and just doesn't fit what we need long term.
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Post by WeAreTheGas on Nov 1, 2023 13:01:03 GMT
Obviously we can only go off rumours and media reports at the moment, but I can’t help but feel slightly concerned by the apparent disconnect between what the new owners stated their criteria are, and the managers we’re supposedly interested in.
None of Holden, Holloway & Monk tick both the young and experience of promotion from L1 to Champ boxes…
It all feels a bit scattergun, to me. Hope I’m wrong!
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Post by chewbacca on Nov 1, 2023 13:02:49 GMT
Appointing Holloway as manager 23 years after leaving the role would be similar to replacing Holloway v1.0 with Don Megson.
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Post by willytopp84 on Nov 1, 2023 13:08:09 GMT
Monk, Jones, Ainsworth for me all could do wonders with our exciting team.
Olly as dof/mentor to mangs is the only way I'd have him back now.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2023 13:08:23 GMT
My biggest concern is no one is a complete stand out, I know we go down the Lidl isle and TK Max with some Jennings signings but we are doing this now with managers.
Proper unemployed ex managers, or sacked a few times recently in Holden.
Andy Whing played his career at our level, promotions non league with not vast amounts of money. Worked under Wilder as well, a good non league player knowledge like DC had.
Not for one minute saying Tommy sat in the play offs with Aldershot but he’s on the tools whilst Monk and Holloway are not for a reason.
Kevin Maher another good candidate and knows a lot of the squad.
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Post by pirate on Nov 1, 2023 13:12:37 GMT
My biggest concern is no one is a complete stand out, I know we go down the Lidl isle and TK Max with some Jennings signings but we are doing this now with managers. Proper unemployed ex managers, or sacked a few times recently in Holden. Andy Whing played his career at our level, promotions non league with not vast amounts of money. Worked under Wilder as well, a good non league player knowledge like DC had. Not for one minute saying Tommy sat in the play offs with Aldershot but he’s on the tools whilst Monk and Holloway are not for a reason. Kevin Maher another good candidate and knows a lot of the squad. Tommy has done a brilliant job at both Kings Lynn and Aldershot.
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Post by warehamgas on Nov 1, 2023 13:15:27 GMT
Quite surprised no one seems to be mentioning the Cowleys. Tick a lot of the boxes, Championship, top end of League 1 (though not promotion), experienced without being too old. Blimey, if Olly and Holden are being mentioned they have to be in with a shout.
UTG!
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Post by amgas on Nov 1, 2023 13:18:09 GMT
Surprised at the anger shown towards Holloway - he has a record of being very successful over the years at a higher level. Grimsby was a disaster, but you can't argue that overall he has a good record. Probably motivated and recharged after a few years away from the game. We could do worse. Prefer him to Cotterill or Holden for sure. Ainsworth has a good record even if you don't like his style of football, would not be too unhappy with Monk.
Still think giving Mangan and Wheelan ago for a few games would make a lot of sense, but talking to others in case that is not going well makes sense. Owners are lucky enough to be able to sit down and chat to these people, would be silly not to talk to experienced options like Holloway even if you thought it unlikely you would employ them.
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Post by warehamgas on Nov 1, 2023 13:18:42 GMT
My biggest concern is no one is a complete stand out, I know we go down the Lidl isle and TK Max with some Jennings signings but we are doing this now with managers. Proper unemployed ex managers, or sacked a few times recently in Holden. Andy Whing played his career at our level, promotions non league with not vast amounts of money. Worked under Wilder as well, a good non league player knowledge like DC had. Not for one minute saying Tommy sat in the play offs with Aldershot but he’s on the tools whilst Monk and Holloway are not for a reason. Kevin Maher another good candidate and knows a lot of the squad. Yes, I think you could add Pete Wild at Barrow to those. Got them playing some attractive football and at the right end of League 2 with what must be a very low budget and in difficult circumstances ( only going to Barrow on match days and being Manchester based training-wise). UTG!
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