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Post by gasgas3 on Nov 4, 2023 23:23:48 GMT
I quite like the idea of keeping Mangan on as manager, but a good thing is as we are in capable hands so we don't have to rush the decision. I don't think we were far off it with Barton and with a couple of tweaks here and there we have the makings of a good side. I like that Mangan has already shown an interest in the academy, from what I'm told the players enjoy his coaching and he seems to have an infectious personality that is difficult not to like. None of the bookies candidates are particularly outstanding and I don't think there is any reason to rock the boat with an outside appointment that might want to unnecessarily rip things up. Stick with Mangan, Whelan and Bond and see how things go and then maybe support the management team with investment in the scouting and recruitment side of things to help them out? Agree, just be good to see who he/they are interested in from the academy.
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Post by pirate on Nov 5, 2023 1:02:05 GMT
I quite like the idea of keeping Mangan on as manager, but a good thing is as we are in capable hands so we don't have to rush the decision. I don't think we were far off it with Barton and with a couple of tweaks here and there we have the makings of a good side. I like that Mangan has already shown an interest in the academy, from what I'm told the players enjoy his coaching and he seems to have an infectious personality that is difficult not to like. None of the bookies candidates are particularly outstanding and I don't think there is any reason to rock the boat with an outside appointment that might want to unnecessarily rip things up. Stick with Mangan, Whelan and Bond and see how things go and then maybe support the management team with investment in the scouting and recruitment side of things to help them out? Agree, just be good to see who he/they are interested in from the academy. Harvey Greenslade (Truro), Will Larvin (Yate), Jerry Lawrence (Tiverton) and Theo Lynden (Melksham) have been getting valuable minutes and experience out on loan this season. Others seem to be progressing nicely too...
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Post by Topper Gas on Nov 5, 2023 8:32:09 GMT
I quite like the idea of keeping Mangan on as manager, but a good thing is as we are in capable hands so we don't have to rush the decision. I don't think we were far off it with Barton and with a couple of tweaks here and there we have the makings of a good side. I like that Mangan has already shown an interest in the academy, from what I'm told the players enjoy his coaching and he seems to have an infectious personality that is difficult not to like. None of the bookies candidates are particularly outstanding and I don't think there is any reason to rock the boat with an outside appointment that might want to unnecessarily rip things up. Stick with Mangan, Whelan and Bond and see how things go and then maybe support the management team with investment in the scouting and recruitment side of things to help them out? Agree, just be good to see who he/they are interested in from the academy. "showing an interest" by helping them with their coaching doesn't necessarily mean he's about to promote any of them to the first team squad? It seems odd Wael allowed JB to seemingly take no interest in the Academy, given that producing our own players is something he's also promoted. As far as Mangan does he have the experience to change tactics if we're struggling in a game and identify new players? Perhaps working with a DoF or an experienced Assistant Manager, would be the ideal move, not sure if KB's up to that role. If we go for somebody like Robinson then we'll be basically starting again from scratch this season.
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Post by Kingswood Polak on Nov 5, 2023 9:48:10 GMT
Has Wayne Carlisle been mentioned on here? Taylor’s assistant at Exeter and Rotherham, left field, we just don’t know who has applied either. Might be massively off but isn't he married to the daughter of a former director who cried off and started supporting Exeter because he couldn't afford to buy Rovers off the Dunfords? KS is blue to his core. He did fall out with NH but never tried to buy the club, not as far as I know. It’s a long story but maybe John malickji could give the whole story. It was about the RAFC or Rovers agenda for change, to try to make the club self sustainable and not a power grab. He’s had family have goodnight Irene played at funerals.
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Post by fanboy on Nov 5, 2023 9:49:49 GMT
For me Robinson or Monk stand out. Looking at Robinsons league one record it’s hard to look past him, I hadn’t realised his experience until I did.
I like Mangs but think giving him the job would be an emotional choice not a sensible one.. I would still back him ofc.
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Post by Kingswood Polak on Nov 5, 2023 9:55:48 GMT
I quite like the idea of keeping Mangan on as manager, but a good thing is as we are in capable hands so we don't have to rush the decision. I don't think we were far off it with Barton and with a couple of tweaks here and there we have the makings of a good side. I like that Mangan has already shown an interest in the academy, from what I'm told the players enjoy his coaching and he seems to have an infectious personality that is difficult not to like. None of the bookies candidates are particularly outstanding and I don't think there is any reason to rock the boat with an outside appointment that might want to unnecessarily rip things up. Stick with Mangan, Whelan and Bond and see how things go and then maybe support the management team with investment in the scouting and recruitment side of things to help them out? I agree but if JB does get a job offer then there is always the worry that he would try to get Mangan with him. Do you think this is plausible fella ?
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Post by stuart1974 on Nov 5, 2023 10:20:55 GMT
I quite like the idea of keeping Mangan on as manager, but a good thing is as we are in capable hands so we don't have to rush the decision. I don't think we were far off it with Barton and with a couple of tweaks here and there we have the makings of a good side. I like that Mangan has already shown an interest in the academy, from what I'm told the players enjoy his coaching and he seems to have an infectious personality that is difficult not to like. None of the bookies candidates are particularly outstanding and I don't think there is any reason to rock the boat with an outside appointment that might want to unnecessarily rip things up. Stick with Mangan, Whelan and Bond and see how things go and then maybe support the management team with investment in the scouting and recruitment side of things to help them out? I agree but if JB does get a job offer then there is always the worry that he would try to get Mangan with him. Do you think this is plausible fella ? One of your colleagues on the other forum is implying Mangan is 'Barton-lite' with his personal flaws. What's that about?
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Post by gasandelectricity on Nov 5, 2023 10:28:57 GMT
I quite like the idea of keeping Mangan on as manager, but a good thing is as we are in capable hands so we don't have to rush the decision. I don't think we were far off it with Barton and with a couple of tweaks here and there we have the makings of a good side. I like that Mangan has already shown an interest in the academy, from what I'm told the players enjoy his coaching and he seems to have an infectious personality that is difficult not to like. None of the bookies candidates are particularly outstanding and I don't think there is any reason to rock the boat with an outside appointment that might want to unnecessarily rip things up. Stick with Mangan, Whelan and Bond and see how things go and then maybe support the management team with investment in the scouting and recruitment side of things to help them out? I agree but if JB does get a job offer then there is always the worry that he would try to get Mangan with him. Do you think this is plausible fella ? I think it’s a plausible risk if Mangan is assistant but I can’t see him leaving us as manager for an assistant role elsewhere.
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Post by Quarters on Nov 5, 2023 10:56:17 GMT
Not convinced yet by Mangan, seems to be playing a political game. Switch to 4 4 2, to seem more attacking. Youth on the bench, as per youth requirement in job brief.
We have built a squad more suited to 4 2 3 1 than 4 4 2. With more players fit who would be in the middle of the 4?
Let's see what happens next.
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Post by Topper Gas on Nov 5, 2023 11:03:16 GMT
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Post by stapletongas on Nov 5, 2023 11:04:50 GMT
I quite like the idea of keeping Mangan on as manager, but a good thing is as we are in capable hands so we don't have to rush the decision. I don't think we were far off it with Barton and with a couple of tweaks here and there we have the makings of a good side. I like that Mangan has already shown an interest in the academy, from what I'm told the players enjoy his coaching and he seems to have an infectious personality that is difficult not to like. None of the bookies candidates are particularly outstanding and I don't think there is any reason to rock the boat with an outside appointment that might want to unnecessarily rip things up. Stick with Mangan, Whelan and Bond and see how things go and then maybe support the management team with investment in the scouting and recruitment side of things to help them out? I recall when Ollie stood down and fans questioned why Penny didn't step up. Penny came out explaining he was a coach and not a manager. I think he had a point...to a degree. The game has been littered for years with successful managers who were not coaches but had very good coaches working with them. How many teams benefitted from Don Howe? What would Cloughie had been without Peter Taylor? Mind you, if Mangs can also be a manger, I say a good manager who is actually first and foremost a top coach by trade is worth having. Does he want it? If so, I think we should bide our time and see what he can do. One issue though is that a manager does a lot of crucial work in the summer and January windows, if he were to get the job, we can't wait to see how he performs in those periods. He speaks well and the players seem to be playing for him. I like what I am seeing so far.
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Post by Topper Gas on Nov 5, 2023 11:09:21 GMT
For me Robinson or Monk stand out. Looking at Robinsons league one record it’s hard to look past him, I hadn’t realised his experience until I did. I like Mangs but think giving him the job would be an emotional choice not a sensible one.. I would still back him ofc. Isn't KR like Wilson was at City in the past, a bit of a choker when it came to the play offs?
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Post by alanrg on Nov 5, 2023 15:24:03 GMT
According to respected journalist Pete O’Rourke the ex Lincoln manager Mark Kennedy is being linked with the job
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Post by pirate on Nov 5, 2023 15:42:16 GMT
I quite like the idea of keeping Mangan on as manager, but a good thing is as we are in capable hands so we don't have to rush the decision. I don't think we were far off it with Barton and with a couple of tweaks here and there we have the makings of a good side. I like that Mangan has already shown an interest in the academy, from what I'm told the players enjoy his coaching and he seems to have an infectious personality that is difficult not to like. None of the bookies candidates are particularly outstanding and I don't think there is any reason to rock the boat with an outside appointment that might want to unnecessarily rip things up. Stick with Mangan, Whelan and Bond and see how things go and then maybe support the management team with investment in the scouting and recruitment side of things to help them out? I agree but if JB does get a job offer then there is always the worry that he would try to get Mangan with him. Do you think this is plausible fella ? Possible, but if Mangan is manager here I doubt he would leave that role for an assistant position elsewhere.
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Post by pirate on Nov 5, 2023 15:45:37 GMT
According to respected journalist Pete O’Rourke the ex Lincoln manager Mark Kennedy is being linked with the job Wael is conducting the search I'm told, so expect a variety of different managers with completely different approaches to one another, to be linked.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2023 15:48:43 GMT
According to respected journalist Pete O’Rourke the ex Lincoln manager Mark Kennedy is being linked with the job Where have you seen this? Nothing on his Twitter
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Post by kentgas on Nov 5, 2023 15:57:30 GMT
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Post by kentgas on Nov 5, 2023 16:00:33 GMT
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Post by Topper Gas on Nov 5, 2023 16:06:02 GMT
According to respected journalist Pete O’Rourke the ex Lincoln manager Mark Kennedy is being linked with the job Wael is conducting the search I'm told, so expect a variety of different managers with completely different approaches to one another, to be linked. Not sure if your joking or not as given he that let GC leave and then went though BG > PT > BG not sure I'd personally let him any where near the search, unless the new owners have already decided AM's getting the job. As far as Kennedy I can't recall him doing anything of note in his time in charge of Lincoln, he certainly doesn't fit the criteria set by the new owner, even Holden seems a better prospect.
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Post by pirate on Nov 5, 2023 16:09:33 GMT
I was against Robinson at the start and I'm not saying he'd be my first choice, but he's now looking like one of the better options in my opinion. Although we beat them comforably, I was impressed with Chesterfield in pre season. They played some good football for a non league side and are currently top of the league. I don't think we've haven't been linked with any employeded managers but I wouldn't mind Cook. Cook doing another fantastic job at Chesterfield, after a bit of a blip at Ipswich. His previous record is outstanding. Good win against his old club Pompey today in the FA Cup. However, Wael thinks he's a 'long ball manager' (he isn't), so probably a non-starter for that reason alone.
2013-14: L2 title Chesterfield. 2014-15: L1 reached play-offs Chesterfield. 2015-16: L2 reached play-offs Portsmouth. 2016-17: L2 title Portsmouth. 2017-18: L1 title Wigan.
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