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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2023 19:09:42 GMT
What I mean by Cogs is we are battling and battling for the second ball which his side did. I would also we went more direct today and the stats prove this on our ball retention.
45% today, 67% Burton, 61% Cams, 56% Oxford, 49% Posh.
Mangs told them, get the ball forward quicker and let them have the ball in certain areas. We never pressed as much up top, our real press was with the likes of Evans in the middles of the park. I noticed he tried this as Reading with our 52%.
But we now have fans saying the football was terrible, we can give them the 60’s% games but look at where it got us at Burton?!?!
The reason a still un fit Martin is started over Marquis is we go longer to him based on the fact he can win more balls. And if you notice, when Jon comes on against tiring legs, we go more passing fluid.
Winning football for me and hard to beat any day over Barton’s ideology of Champagne football because he openly admitted he turned off Div1 and watched the Premiership
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Post by gasandelectricity on Nov 11, 2023 19:19:10 GMT
You can only beat what’s in front of you.
Even against the sides we’ve played 7 out of 9 is a good return. I can guarantee JB wouldn’t have delivered that amount of points and it would be starting to get nasty.
Keep that form up and we’ll rocket up the league.
I’d support the board with whatever decision they make. Wouldn’t be against them keeping Mangan in post for another 4 weeks as a review period before making a decision as there would still be time for a manager to come in and get their feet under the desk before the transfer window opens and any serious candidate should have an eye on us already anyway.
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Post by Topper Gas on Nov 11, 2023 19:36:18 GMT
You can only beat what’s in front of you. Even against the sides we’ve played 7 out of 9 is a good return. I can guarantee JB wouldn’t have delivered that amount of points and it would be starting to get nasty. Keep that form up and we’ll rocket up the league. I’d support the board with whatever decision they make. Wouldn’t be against them keeping Mangan in post for another 4 weeks as a review period before making a decision as there would still be time for a manager to come in and get their feet under the desk before the transfer window opens and any serious candidate should have an eye on us already anyway. For whatever reason JB lost his way, the question is whether a more experienced manager could do better than AM and also probably how much more it would cost if they insist on bringing in their own men and players in January. I can't see the Board can leave the decision in limbo for another month. It's notable since KN returned to fold we're keeping clean sheets, it was always baffling why JB cast him aside.
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Post by yattongas on Nov 11, 2023 19:45:39 GMT
You can only beat what’s in front of you. Even against the sides we’ve played 7 out of 9 is a good return. I can guarantee JB wouldn’t have delivered that amount of points and it would be starting to get nasty. Keep that form up and we’ll rocket up the league. I’d support the board with whatever decision they make. Wouldn’t be against them keeping Mangan in post for another 4 weeks as a review period before making a decision as there would still be time for a manager to come in and get their feet under the desk before the transfer window opens and any serious candidate should have an eye on us already anyway. For whatever reason JB lost his way, the question is whether a more experienced manager could do better than AM and also probably how much more it would cost if they insist on bringing in their own men and players in January. I can't see the Board can leave the decision in limbo for another month. It's notable since KN returned to fold we're keeping clean sheets, it was always baffling why JB cast him aside. KN ? Do you mean kB ?
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Post by gasmonkey on Nov 11, 2023 19:50:04 GMT
People say we need experience. As well as Mangan you have Bond and the likes of Whelan and other experienced heads.Hopefully Anderton can come into the fold too. I think I’d be inclined to stick with what we have and let them get on with it. Play nice football when we can, hopefully grind out results when we can’t.
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Post by 84gas on Nov 11, 2023 19:51:55 GMT
Mangs looked too happy in his post match interview for it to only be about the 3 points……👀
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Post by wallywalters on Nov 11, 2023 19:56:54 GMT
Mangs looked too happy in his post match interview for it to only be about the 3 points……👀 He was beaming ear to ear wasn't he 🤣. I really like the bloke.
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Post by onedaygas83 on Nov 11, 2023 19:57:22 GMT
Ffs guys Mangs is not the man for the job. He's had a free pass against 3 weak teams. I've seen nothing tactically that shows he's capable of mixing it up and changing things mid game when needed. We need a strong manager to come in and implement their plan and tactics. We are in a good position and have a good squad of players. There's no reason we can't make the play offs this season with the right man and a few additions in Jan. Just because he's won a few games and put points on the board does not mean he's the best man for the job unfortunately I have to agree with you I also think Mangs is not up to it due to his 1 lack of experience 2 he's clearly still playing the Barton tactics and 3 he isn't capable of changing things mid match. I can't fault his results since he's been in charge but it would be crazy to offer him the position full time or even to the end of the season. I'm confident we will have a new manager before our next league game but who that is is anyone's guess because I really don't know who it will be???
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Post by DrFaustus on Nov 11, 2023 20:03:48 GMT
Some great points on this thread. 7 from 9, regardless who we've played, is a great return. Some "squeaky bum" moments as the great Sir Alex would say, but points mean prizes.
Andy Mangan has been a consumate professional throughout the aftermath of the last manager leaving. Must be hard for him, as Joey is his close friend.
Tough choice for the owners.
UTFG 🏴☠️
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Post by Russgas on Nov 11, 2023 20:12:44 GMT
Ffs guys Mangs is not the man for the job. He's had a free pass against 3 weak teams. I've seen nothing tactically that shows he's capable of mixing it up and changing things mid game when needed. We need a strong manager to come in and implement their plan and tactics. We are in a good position and have a good squad of players. There's no reason we can't make the play offs this season with the right man and a few additions in Jan. Just because he's won a few games and put points on the board does not mean he's the best man for the job unfortunately I have to agree with you I also think Mangs is not up to it due to his 1 lack of experience 2 he's clearly still playing the Barton tactics and 3 he isn't capable of changing things mid match. I can't fault his results since he's been in charge but it would be crazy to offer him the position full time or even to the end of the season. I'm confident we will have a new manager before our next league game but who that is is anyone's guess because I really don't know who it will be??? He is not still playing the Barton tactics.. We were far more direct today & played the ball forward much quicker. First half especially we cut them open & should of been out of sight.
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Post by Topper Gas on Nov 11, 2023 20:19:12 GMT
For whatever reason JB lost his way, the question is whether a more experienced manager could do better than AM and also probably how much more it would cost if they insist on bringing in their own men and players in January. I can't see the Board can leave the decision in limbo for another month. It's notable since KN returned to fold we're keeping clean sheets, it was always baffling why JB cast him aside. KN ? Do you mean kB ? Yes, typo, N's next to B on the keyboard!!
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Post by Topper Gas on Nov 11, 2023 20:20:40 GMT
Some great points on this thread. 7 from 9, regardless who we've played, is a great return. Some "squeaky bum" moments as the great Sir Alex would say, but points mean prizes. Andy Mangan has been a consumate professional throughout the aftermath of the last manager leaving. Must be hard for him, as Joey is his close friend. Tough choice for the owners. UTFG 🏴☠️ I doubt he's worrying about JB as this could be the chance of a life time to become a L1 manager.
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Post by gasheadontour on Nov 11, 2023 20:32:22 GMT
Given the owners comments about a manager will have to work with club staff I would expect AM to continue to be employed rather than incur the cost of sackings and hiring coaching replacements.
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Post by RD on Nov 11, 2023 20:42:09 GMT
Thankful for what Mangs has done and you can only beat what's in front of you. But Whitby were Whitby, Reading was dreadful and we weren't exactly brilliant against a very poor side today.
Not what we're looking for if we're serious about moving forward IMO. Some questionable setups and subs and just all a bit meh.
Thankful for his hardwork and definitely a consummate professional, but if we have serious ambitions we need to look elsewhere IMO and I'll be unbelievably underwhelmed if he gets the gig full-time.
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Post by WeAreTheGas on Nov 11, 2023 20:42:49 GMT
Ffs guys Mangs is not the man for the job. He's had a free pass against 3 weak teams. I've seen nothing tactically that shows he's capable of mixing it up and changing things mid game when needed. We need a strong manager to come in and implement their plan and tactics. We are in a good position and have a good squad of players. There's no reason we can't make the play offs this season with the right man and a few additions in Jan. Just because he's won a few games and put points on the board does not mean he's the best man for the job unfortunately I have to agree with you I also think Mangs is not up to it due to his 1 lack of experience 2 he's clearly still playing the Barton tactics and 3 he isn't capable of changing things mid match. I can't fault his results since he's been in charge but it would be crazy to offer him the position full time or even to the end of the season. I'm confident we will have a new manager before our next league game but who that is is anyone's guess because I really don't know who it will be??? I’m not saying we should give him the job (I don’t think we should), but: a) He’s very much not still playing Barton’s tactics. The shape has changed, we press less, we have less possession and we’re more direct. b) He started with a 3-5-2 today and switched to a back 4 mid-match.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2023 20:43:45 GMT
Thankful for what Mangs has done and you can only beat what's in front of you. But Whitby were Whitby, Reading was dreadful and we weren't exactly brilliant against a very poor side today. Not what we're looking for if we're serious about moving forward IMO. Some questionable setups and subs and just all a bit meh. Thankful for his hardwork and definitely a consummate professional, but if we have serious ambitions we need to look elsewhere IMO and I'll be unbelievably underwhelmed if he gets the gig full-time. Seeing this, I think he’s got the job RD and I don’t think the club want or can afford to lay 8/9 of the management off if a new man wants his own team www.instagram.com/reel/CzhJvQArv7a/?igshid=MXNkZzVvc3V6dGJ4aA==
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Post by RD on Nov 11, 2023 20:46:54 GMT
Thankful for what Mangs has done and you can only beat what's in front of you. But Whitby were Whitby, Reading was dreadful and we weren't exactly brilliant against a very poor side today. Not what we're looking for if we're serious about moving forward IMO. Some questionable setups and subs and just all a bit meh. Thankful for his hardwork and definitely a consummate professional, but if we have serious ambitions we need to look elsewhere IMO and I'll be unbelievably underwhelmed if he gets the gig full-time. Seeing this, I think he’s got the job RD and I don’t think the club want or can afford to lay 8/9 of the management off if a new man wants his own team www.instagram.com/reel/CzhJvQArv7a/?igshid=MXNkZzVvc3V6dGJ4aA==Hmmmmm valid points. Can't knock his passion. I like him, I just worry whether he has enough beyond the enthusiasm and likeable personna
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Post by Quarters on Nov 11, 2023 20:48:48 GMT
I have to agree with you I also think Mangs is not up to it due to his 1 lack of experience 2 he's clearly still playing the Barton tactics and 3 he isn't capable of changing things mid match. I can't fault his results since he's been in charge but it would be crazy to offer him the position full time or even to the end of the season. I'm confident we will have a new manager before our next league game but who that is is anyone's guess because I really don't know who it will be??? I’m not saying we should give him the job (I don’t think we should), but: a) He’s very much not still playing Barton’s tactics. The shape has changed, we press less, we have less possession and we’re more direct. b) He started with a 3-5-2 today and switched to a back 4 mid-match. Thought it was 4 2 3 1 Then 4 4 2 Then 4 4 1 Then 4 3 2
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2023 20:49:08 GMT
Hmmmmm valid points. Can't knock his passion. I like him, I just worry whether he has enough beyond the enthusiasm and likeable personna And I guess only time will tell. His interviews are so refreshing, he’s happy, smiling, appreciative, he’s infectious and a blatant penalty denied Tuesday night, he could have had a pop at the ref big time re this and today, we are not talking about refs!
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Post by Topper Gas on Nov 11, 2023 20:51:12 GMT
Thankful for what Mangs has done and you can only beat what's in front of you. But Whitby were Whitby, Reading was dreadful and we weren't exactly brilliant against a very poor side today. Not what we're looking for if we're serious about moving forward IMO. Some questionable setups and subs and just all a bit meh. Thankful for his hardwork and definitely a consummate professional, but if we have serious ambitions we need to look elsewhere IMO and I'll be unbelievably underwhelmed if he gets the gig full-time. Seeing this, I think he’s got the job RD and I don’t think the club want or can afford to lay 8/9 of the management off if a new man wants his own team www.instagram.com/reel/CzhJvQArv7a/?igshid=MXNkZzVvc3V6dGJ4aA==AM just seems to be celebrating a Rovers win? He may be as much in the dark as we are about the owners intentions. I'm not sure a new manager would insist the whole backroom staff are dismissed, rather than just bring in an assistant, at least until the summer. Although giving AM a payrise is going to be far cheaper than giving the likes of Robinson a 3 year contract and paying AM off.
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