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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2023 22:14:39 GMT
In my opinion as well it would be too dangerous now to bring in a new man. This lot are bang average and it’s about getting us to 50 points and getting rid of a lot of them. Penney never inherited a really dire squad, it had some solid pros in it and the likes of Hoskins. This lot could revolt, I can name 10 that need to go and no Div1 side takes them either. Belshaw Gibbons Grant Connolly Finley Marquis Sinclair Rossiter Gordon Friend Then send the loans back Vale Crama Bogarde Woods We need Topper to admit he’s been hoodwinked by Barton and Jennings! Complete new rebuild, the championship would be suicide with this lot, get to 50 points with Mangs and see how he is doing but we just need to stay up now. A little harsh on Vale I think. He’s been decent I think. I’d keep Bogarde around as well as a squad player. Not keen on the others. Sorry I meant at the end of the season, when they all go back, the 10 mentioned as well, that’s 14 gone, and I’d only have Vale back!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2023 22:17:58 GMT
A little harsh on Vale I think. He’s been decent I think. I’d keep Bogarde around as well as a squad player. Not keen on the others. Sorry I meant at the end of the season, when they all go back, the 10 mentioned as well, that’s 14 gone, and I’d only have Vale back! Yeah that’s a good way of looking at it. I think I’d keep Grant if he proves his fitness on a pay as you play deal as I do like him and his versatility. The rest I don’t think I’d keep one of them
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Post by gasbaggio on Nov 14, 2023 22:19:33 GMT
In my opinion as well it would be too dangerous now to bring in a new man. This lot are bang average and it’s about getting us to 50 points and getting rid of a lot of them. Penney never inherited a really dire squad, it had some solid pros in it and the likes of Hoskins. This lot could revolt, I can name 10 that need to go and no Div1 side takes them either. Belshaw Gibbons Grant Connolly Finley Marquis Sinclair Rossiter Gordon Friend Then send the loans back Vale Crama Bogarde Woods We need Topper to admit he’s been hoodwinked by Barton and Jennings! Complete new rebuild, the championship would be suicide with this lot, get to 50 points with Mangs and see how he is doing but we just need to stay up now.
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Post by warehamgas on Nov 14, 2023 22:20:43 GMT
Going to be hard to go against Mangan now after this run. He’s really managed it well to get the 4 wins and 1 draw. Not too inspiring but it’s been a good run and the results have been good. And in the end you can only beat what’s in front of you. I guess had there been an outstanding candidate then it might still change and what the owners have to balance is the reaction, mid season, of the players who want him if he isn’t appointed. We don’t want another Dave Penny situation like 2011.
Whether Mangan is the guy to take us on and really push us into a challenge on the play offs I’m not sure. The next week should tell us what the owners really think, if they don’t confirm Mangan after this run then perhaps they won’t and will look elsewhere. Or perhaps they have already decided and are just waiting to unveil them. I’m not sure they had a definite plan about who they wanted to replace JB but we don’t know because they have kept very quiet about everything since they came in. They won’t tell us step by step what they’re doing, they will just announce the decision at the end.
UTG!
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Post by neilv93 on Nov 14, 2023 22:34:29 GMT
Apart from a solid start in L1 what has he actually achieve at this level to make him a better appointment than AM? I don't think you can totally ignore Exeter's promotion from L2. Easily one of the best footballing sides I've seen at that level. Okay, that was L2, but Exeter were doing well in L1 when he was poached by Rotherham, and keeping The Millers in the Championship last season was an achievement considering their budget. He's got 5+ years managerial experience in L2, L1 and the Championship. What's Mangan done to deserve the job? A couple of scrappy, unconvincing wins against the 2 of the weakest sides in L1. I'd probably still edge towards Robinson, but I'd be fairly happy with Taylor or Monk. Good post, saves me writing a similar response to my OP. I think if this club and board are ambitious as we're led to believe, we need to be ruthless. Mangs has done a wonderful job in steadying the ship, getting points on the board, safe passage into the next round of two cups and generally improved the mood. That also does not inherently make him the right man to lead this club going forward. The two scenarios are not mutually exclusive. Thank him for the job he's done as caretaker and go and get a 'proper' manager IMO. The extra points and cup progression only improves our chances of selling the job to a higher class candidate. Be that Monk, Taylor or whomever.
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Post by daniel300380 on Nov 15, 2023 6:21:08 GMT
The players will still want to start games, the players that are out of contract, will still want to earn a new deal etc. I doubt they would down tools, just because we appoint someone knew. Oh come on. We all know this goes on in the game. Mikel said on talksport this week that Chelsea players ran the show and if they wanted a man sacked they got him sacked. We’ve seen it at our club before in a very similar situation 10 years ago. Players will always get contracts somewhere. That's at premier League level, where players have long contacts on big wages. If our players don't perform, they might not get another club and they will be replaced.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2023 7:29:39 GMT
Oh come on. We all know this goes on in the game. Mikel said on talksport this week that Chelsea players ran the show and if they wanted a man sacked they got him sacked. We’ve seen it at our club before in a very similar situation 10 years ago. Players will always get contracts somewhere. That's at premier League level, where players have long contacts on big wages. If our players don't perform, they might not get another club and they will be replaced. If you really believe that it doesn’t happen at league one level then you’re deluded. Take a listen to under the cosh podcast. There are many pros on here who have said “we weren’t having the manager” it happens at every single club at some point. How many times have we said “he’s lost the dressing room and they aren’t playing for him” It’s the same thing.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2023 7:38:36 GMT
I think it’s Mangs everyone and I’m surprised no one picked up on his comments last night and Wilson’s.
They players have some time off now, Wilson said this as well. So we have made the decision, that’s a collective one, Mangs to the board and they have agreed it all round. Any new man coming in would want to be with the squad flat out now for the next 10 days or so.
On the training ground his ideas, 25 plus man squad, he’d want to be having personal meetings with every player and next week would be the time.
Mangs today or this week until the end of the season, it’s got to be.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2023 7:42:20 GMT
Oh come on. We all know this goes on in the game. Mikel said on talksport this week that Chelsea players ran the show and if they wanted a man sacked they got him sacked. We’ve seen it at our club before in a very similar situation 10 years ago. Players will always get contracts somewhere. That's at premier League level, where players have long contacts on big wages. If our players don't perform, they might not get another club and they will be replaced. We had it at our level with Martin Dobson and Dave Penney Daniel, I wonder if it happening now at Huddersfield with Darren Moore.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2023 7:47:02 GMT
That's at premier League level, where players have long contacts on big wages. If our players don't perform, they might not get another club and they will be replaced. We had it at our level with Martin Dobson and Dave Penney Daniel, I wonder if it happening now at Huddersfield with Darren Moore. Forgot about Dobson. The players all went down the milk factory and told the Dunford’s “we ain’t having this bloke”
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Post by percy on Nov 15, 2023 7:52:26 GMT
I think it’s Mangs everyone and I’m surprised no one picked up on his comments last night and Wilson’s. They players have some time off now, Wilson said this as well. So we have made the decision, that’s a collective one, Mangs to the board and they have agreed it all round. Any new man coming in would want to be with the squad flat out now for the next 10 days or so. On the training ground his ideas, 25 plus man squad, he’d want to be having personal meetings with every player and next week would be the time. Mangs today or this week until the end of the season, it’s got to be. Or the new guy comes in Monday as he is away currently and works with the current coaching set up from then. Basically we are all guessing.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2023 7:52:58 GMT
I think it’s Mangs everyone and I’m surprised no one picked up on his comments last night and Wilson’s. They players have some time off now, Wilson said this as well. So we have made the decision, that’s a collective one, Mangs to the board and they have agreed it all round. Any new man coming in would want to be with the squad flat out now for the next 10 days or so. On the training ground his ideas, 25 plus man squad, he’d want to be having personal meetings with every player and next week would be the time. Mangs today or this week until the end of the season, it’s got to be. Or the new guy comes in Monday as he is away currently and works with the current coaching set up from them. Basically we are all guessing. I’d hope that we haven’t let a bloke who’s not work for 3 years tell us he’ll take the job but he can’t start until next week cause he’s got a conference in Miami. I want someone who’s priority is the gas
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Post by percy on Nov 15, 2023 7:54:36 GMT
Or the new guy comes in Monday as he is away currently and works with the current coaching set up from them. Basically we are all guessing. I’d hope that we haven’t let a bloke who’s not work for 3 years tell us he’ll take the job but he can’t start until next week cause he’s got a conference in Miami. I want someone who’s priority is the gas For a week when we have no game and he may be contracted to do it? Anyway. I’m just guessing like the road fellow, it’s not real
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2023 7:56:21 GMT
I’d hope that we haven’t let a bloke who’s not work for 3 years tell us he’ll take the job but he can’t start until next week cause he’s got a conference in Miami. I want someone who’s priority is the gas For a week when we have no game and he may be contracted to do it? Anyway. I’m just guessing like the road fellow, it’s not real Its his company, he can choose wether he’s going or not.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2023 7:59:48 GMT
I think it’s Mangs everyone and I’m surprised no one picked up on his comments last night and Wilson’s. They players have some time off now, Wilson said this as well. So we have made the decision, that’s a collective one, Mangs to the board and they have agreed it all round. Any new man coming in would want to be with the squad flat out now for the next 10 days or so. On the training ground his ideas, 25 plus man squad, he’d want to be having personal meetings with every player and next week would be the time. Mangs today or this week until the end of the season, it’s got to be. Or the new guy comes in Monday as he is away currently and works with the current coaching set up from then. Basically we are all guessing. 💯 guessing but I find it hard to believe that after 3 weeks to the day we sacked hoodwinker and we are going to take 4 weeks to appoint a manager and then not let him utilise this gift of free time with the players?
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Post by wallywalters on Nov 15, 2023 8:27:30 GMT
He actually said the players are back in training for the next couple of days then they have a bit of time off and be back in Monday to prepare for derby so their only having the weekend off and maybe Friday.
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Post by percy on Nov 15, 2023 8:29:27 GMT
Interesting he also said he doesn’t want to say he wants it as that is disrespectful to Joey. Not sure that makes much sense or shows he is is keen
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Post by peterhooper57 on Nov 15, 2023 8:33:28 GMT
Or the new guy comes in Monday as he is away currently and works with the current coaching set up from then. Basically we are all guessing. 💯 guessing but I find it hard to believe that after 3 weeks to the day we sacked hoodwinker and we are going to take 4 weeks to appoint a manager and then not let him utilise this gift of free time with the players? The haters will not be happy until another Tisdale lookalike walks into the club and takes the club back to the division 2, you are gutted Mangan has done so well.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2023 8:35:38 GMT
💯 guessing but I find it hard to believe that after 3 weeks to the day we sacked hoodwinker and we are going to take 4 weeks to appoint a manager and then not let him utilise this gift of free time with the players? The haters will not be happy until another Tisdale lookalike walks into the club and takes the club back to the division 2, you are gutted Mangan has done so well. Do you read the forum and my posts? Mangs is my choice.
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Post by westfieldgas on Nov 15, 2023 8:36:48 GMT
Will be Mangan. Always get my backing but gutted it won’t be Karl Robinson or Gary Monk.
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