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Post by gasandelectricity on Nov 15, 2023 8:45:19 GMT
Interesting he also said he doesn’t want to say he wants it as that is disrespectful to Joey. Not sure that makes much sense or shows he is is keen Just a weird way of deflecting the question I reckon. He wants it
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2023 8:46:17 GMT
💯 guessing but I find it hard to believe that after 3 weeks to the day we sacked hoodwinker and we are going to take 4 weeks to appoint a manager and then not let him utilise this gift of free time with the players? The haters will not be happy until another Tisdale lookalike walks into the club and takes the club back to the division 2, you are gutted Mangan has done so well. You are a fully grown man using a word like “hater” ….. grow up. I assume that Roadman travels from Bicester to the Mem which makes every game an away game. I don’t think you can accuse him of not wanting the club to do well.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2023 8:47:39 GMT
Will be Mangan. Always get my backing but gutted it won’t be Karl Robinson or Gary Monk. Personally I’m delighted that Robinson won’t be coming here.
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Post by playtowin on Nov 15, 2023 8:50:04 GMT
Its obvious Monk has got the job but cant start until he has finished a few things he is contractually tied to doing. Expect him to be named in the next week. What makes you say it’s obvious? Is that based on insider information? Cider knowledge more than insider knowledge 🤪
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Post by albaron on Nov 15, 2023 9:01:28 GMT
I think it’s Mangs everyone and I’m surprised no one picked up on his comments last night and Wilson’s. They players have some time off now, Wilson said this as well. So we have made the decision, that’s a collective one, Mangs to the board and they have agreed it all round. Any new man coming in would want to be with the squad flat out now for the next 10 days or so. On the training ground his ideas, 25 plus man squad, he’d want to be having personal meetings with every player and next week would be the time. Mangs today or this week until the end of the season, it’s got to be. Well if they give it to AM surely that goes against want the owners said they wanted in there original statement. Think it was " someone who had experience of getting promotion from League one to the Championship " ?.Well when has AM had this experience ? This in my mind will be one step forward/Two step backwards. The more I here / listen to these new owners the more I realise they do not know what they are doing. New ground/ JCH Transfer / New experienced manager . More like " Make it up as we go along " .
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2023 9:22:40 GMT
I think it’s Mangs everyone and I’m surprised no one picked up on his comments last night and Wilson’s. They players have some time off now, Wilson said this as well. So we have made the decision, that’s a collective one, Mangs to the board and they have agreed it all round. Any new man coming in would want to be with the squad flat out now for the next 10 days or so. On the training ground his ideas, 25 plus man squad, he’d want to be having personal meetings with every player and next week would be the time. Mangs today or this week until the end of the season, it’s got to be. Well if they give it to AM surely that goes against want the owners said they wanted in there original statement. Think it was " someone who had experience of getting promotion from League one to the Championship " ?.Well when has AM had this experience ? This in my mind will be one step forward/Two step backwards. The more I here / listen to these new owners the more I realise they do not know what they are doing. New ground/ JCH Transfer / New experienced manager . More like " Make it up as we go along " . He also said that Mangan had a chance to impress them in fairness. Look he wouldn’t ve my first , second or third choice but I can see why they’d give him the job until the end of the season after getting some results and the players all liking him.
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Post by percy on Nov 15, 2023 9:30:11 GMT
Mangan to end of season as it stands probably has much chance to get us to the play offs as bringing in a new boss and new coaching set up. Gives time to plan for next season and go after the right person and set up.
Could also see someone coming in as a DoF to support this season, and maybe take over completely in the summer?
I'm not bothered they havent rushed to appoint Robinson if they arent sure, better to take longer and get it right. Maybe Matt Taylor has drawn their attention.
No rush as we keep winning the ugly games we previously struggled with
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Post by warehamgas on Nov 15, 2023 9:30:43 GMT
I think it’s Mangs everyone and I’m surprised no one picked up on his comments last night and Wilson’s. They players have some time off now, Wilson said this as well. So we have made the decision, that’s a collective one, Mangs to the board and they have agreed it all round. Any new man coming in would want to be with the squad flat out now for the next 10 days or so. On the training ground his ideas, 25 plus man squad, he’d want to be having personal meetings with every player and next week would be the time. Mangs today or this week until the end of the season, it’s got to be. Well if they give it to AM surely that goes against want the owners said they wanted in their original statement. Think it was " someone who had experience of getting promotion from League one to the Championship " ?.Well when has AM had this experience ? This in my mind will be one step forward/Two step backwards. The more I hear / listen to these new owners the more I realise they do not know what they are doing. New ground/ JCH Transfer / New experienced manager . More like " Make it up as we go along " . Yes pretty much it I think. They had a plan when JB was sacked but it was vague and along the lines of get someone in who’s got whatever they said. Then they started looking and found it’s not so easy and AM has done well so it gets them out of a hole. As to the ground I quite liked what they said. Instead of pie in the sky plans they’ve been very practical and have gone for a Mem redevelopment. Not unhappy with that and it’s the most practical and realistic ground plan for 15 years. If that happens I’ll be happy. UTG!
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Post by richie on Nov 15, 2023 9:59:31 GMT
Wonder if the new manager is being asked to work with the existing coaching staff, expensive and pointless to replace all of them especially if it doesnt work out.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2023 10:12:04 GMT
Wonder if the new manager is being asked to work with the existing coaching staff, expensive and pointless to replace all of them especially if it doesnt work out. Well we all know that he is cause the owner said in his interview that we want club staff.
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Post by neilv93 on Nov 15, 2023 11:09:48 GMT
Interesting he also said he doesn’t want to say he wants it as that is disrespectful to Joey. Not sure that makes much sense or shows he is is keen Just a weird way of deflecting the question I reckon. He wants it Or, devils advocate, he's not committing to publicly stating his interest because he doesn't think he will/knows he won't get it. Who knows, ultimately!
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Post by pirate on Nov 15, 2023 11:09:49 GMT
Wonder if the new manager is being asked to work with the existing coaching staff, expensive and pointless to replace all of them especially if it doesnt work out. Well we all know that he is cause the owner said in his interview that we want club staff. Surely the club will be recruiting their own staff then, not just stick with the ones Barton employed? Or are Barton's mates Danny Ventre and Chris Spendlove et al the best people for the job?
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Post by daniel300380 on Nov 15, 2023 11:38:08 GMT
That's at premier League level, where players have long contacts on big wages. If our players don't perform, they might not get another club and they will be replaced. If you really believe that it doesn’t happen at league one level then you’re deluded. Take a listen to under the cosh podcast. There are many pros on here who have said “we weren’t having the manager” it happens at every single club at some point. How many times have we said “he’s lost the dressing room and they aren’t playing for him” It’s the same thing. I'm not saying it doesn't go on at all. But it's normally if they don't agree with a manager, or like his style etc. Not because they are sulking, because they didn't get the manager they want. They will give him a chance first and most would get behind them initially. If they all do as you say, every time. Then no manager could ever be appointed, unless they were at the club already 😂. I'm saying I'm our situation, it's highly likely they would give the new manager a chance. Players like Finley are saying they want him as manager, as they know they might not be part of anyone else's plans.
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Post by daniel300380 on Nov 15, 2023 11:43:34 GMT
Wonder if the new manager is being asked to work with the existing coaching staff, expensive and pointless to replace all of them especially if it doesnt work out. Well we all know that he is cause the owner said in his interview that we want club staff. He said he wants to do that, he didn't say it would be the current coaching staff though. What if Barton gets a job up north and they all follow him back up there??
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Post by warehamgas on Nov 15, 2023 11:58:06 GMT
Having sacked JB then of course they had to replace and I’d say that with Mangan they did it ok. 3 wins, 1 draw. And if he’d lost all the games or even Saturday then it might have been a different reaction. Of course. But it’s a silly argument isn’t it, he didn’t lose on Saturday he won. If we hadn’t beaten Scunthorpe …… If Lee B hadn’t scored a last minute winner v D&R…. If Mansell hadn’t score that pen…. But they all did, thankfully and Andy M has done well in the short term. So yes we got it right in the short term. Whether he’s the man long term who knows but I see you’ve just said if he wins tonight he should get the job. So you think he’s done a good job as well? And I won’t be “having a word with myself…” I post on what I see and read and your obsession with Oxford as a model is clear. Anyway let’s hope for a win tonight and progression in the cup, albeit not a major one. I’m not looking for a row, it’s now and obsession but earlier I was told I was into celebrity status and then I replied with a reasoned argument that the owner decided to employ the very best he could find to protect his investment, there is nothing celebrity fantasy about this. I will remind you when Wael bought the club, he brought in several people to join the board/consultants to help protect his purchase, one was the ex CEO of Wembley who built that new stadium, these all left quietly when the UWE was pulled. I know a lot about Oxford living up here, like the Gasheads living in Bristol, I hear continually about their business ideas and moves, right now they are going in right direction and one I wish we were. I think Mangs has done well and I’ve publicly said on this thread to give him the job. But it’s clear we never had a plan when we sacked Barton, if we lost today there would be outcry for a new outside manager. I hope we win tonight, I am not obsessed with celebrities in football, I like people with good experience and cv’s working for the club. I am not adverse to on the job training like the club Secretary we had for 19 years until Jennings sacked him. But when you have an ex marketing manager of Brighton and a golf club shop manager putting a planning application for a new stand, you wonder why we don’t get the application passed. Give me ex senior people from top major European sides employed by us any day of the week, nothing Heat/OKMagazine here ☺️ Genuine apologies if I upset you with the comment re celebrity. Certainly not the intention, just an observation with the comparisons you made. Anyway, don’t want to upset anyone and certainly not a genuine fan who’s obviously invested the time you do. But after 55+ years of going to see us although a real optimist I know intentions and plans of any lower league club are just that, intentions. I said I enjoyed reading what you post and that was genuine. And your knowledge of Oxford is welcome of course. UTG!
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Post by yattongas on Nov 15, 2023 11:59:58 GMT
I’m not looking for a row, it’s now and obsession but earlier I was told I was into celebrity status and then I replied with a reasoned argument that the owner decided to employ the very best he could find to protect his investment, there is nothing celebrity fantasy about this. I will remind you when Wael bought the club, he brought in several people to join the board/consultants to help protect his purchase, one was the ex CEO of Wembley who built that new stadium, these all left quietly when the UWE was pulled. I know a lot about Oxford living up here, like the Gasheads living in Bristol, I hear continually about their business ideas and moves, right now they are going in right direction and one I wish we were. I think Mangs has done well and I’ve publicly said on this thread to give him the job. But it’s clear we never had a plan when we sacked Barton, if we lost today there would be outcry for a new outside manager. I hope we win tonight, I am not obsessed with celebrities in football, I like people with good experience and cv’s working for the club. I am not adverse to on the job training like the club Secretary we had for 19 years until Jennings sacked him. But when you have an ex marketing manager of Brighton and a golf club shop manager putting a planning application for a new stand, you wonder why we don’t get the application passed. Give me ex senior people from top major European sides employed by us any day of the week, nothing Heat/OKMagazine here ☺️ Genuine apologies if I upset you with the comment re celebrity. Certainly not the intention, just an observation with the comparisons you made. Anyway, don’t want to upset anyone and certainly not a genuine fan who’s obviously invested the time you do. But after 55+ years of going to see us although a real optimist I know intentions and plans of any lower league club are just that, intentions. I said I enjoyed reading what you post and that was genuine. And your knowledge of Oxford is welcome of course. UTG! Nobody gives a toss about Poxford 🙄
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Post by lastminutewinner on Nov 15, 2023 12:27:58 GMT
If you really believe that it doesn’t happen at league one level then you’re deluded. Take a listen to under the cosh podcast. There are many pros on here who have said “we weren’t having the manager” it happens at every single club at some point. How many times have we said “he’s lost the dressing room and they aren’t playing for him” It’s the same thing. I'm not saying it doesn't go on at all. But it's normally if they don't agree with a manager, or like his style etc. Not because they are sulking, because they didn't get the manager they want. They will give him a chance first and most would get behind them initially. If they all do as you say, every time. Then no manager could ever be appointed, unless they were at the club already 😂. I'm saying I'm our situation, it's highly likely they would give the new manager a chance. Players like Finley are saying they want him as manager, as they know they might not be part of anyone else's plans. Yet many of the players in the squad havent performed for Barton or Mangan. Maybe it needs someone else in charge other than their mates or relations
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2023 12:40:03 GMT
Genuine apologies if I upset you with the comment re celebrity. Certainly not the intention, just an observation with the comparisons you made. Anyway, don’t want to upset anyone and certainly not a genuine fan who’s obviously invested the time you do. But after 55+ years of going to see us although a real optimist I know intentions and plans of any lower league club are just that, intentions. I said I enjoyed reading what you post and that was genuine. And your knowledge of Oxford is welcome of course. UTG! Nobody gives a toss about Poxford 🙄 But they are just an example used like the fan owned Exeter when it comes to surviving on player sales. I think it’s good to look at other clubs models in how they achieve success, Brighton have a fantastic board with local businessman on it who are successful in their respective fields. When Luton Town got promotion from Div1, that summer they added the chairman of Sony music to their board. If I was the new owners now I’d be reaching out and looking at hosting an event for high net worth individuals who support the Rovers and people who are also experts in their field. I know one Rovers fan who is a HR Director of a major UK brand, he’d work for free as a consultant to the board and always said so.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2023 12:44:21 GMT
I'm not saying it doesn't go on at all. But it's normally if they don't agree with a manager, or like his style etc. Not because they are sulking, because they didn't get the manager they want. They will give him a chance first and most would get behind them initially. If they all do as you say, every time. Then no manager could ever be appointed, unless they were at the club already 😂. I'm saying I'm our situation, it's highly likely they would give the new manager a chance. Players like Finley are saying they want him as manager, as they know they might not be part of anyone else's plans. Yet many of the players in the squad havent performed for Barton or Mangan. Maybe it needs someone else in charge other than their mates or relations Or…..they aren’t as good as lots have been conned into believing. The squad is average and results show it.
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Post by warehamgas on Nov 15, 2023 12:50:52 GMT
Genuine apologies if I upset you with the comment re celebrity. Certainly not the intention, just an observation with the comparisons you made. Anyway, don’t want to upset anyone and certainly not a genuine fan who’s obviously invested the time you do. But after 55+ years of going to see us although a real optimist I know intentions and plans of any lower league club are just that, intentions. I said I enjoyed reading what you post and that was genuine. And your knowledge of Oxford is welcome of course. UTG! Nobody gives a toss about Poxford 🙄 Very good yatton! But it is interesting I guess. 😉 UTG!
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