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Post by yattongas on Nov 16, 2023 11:55:44 GMT
A lot of people saying todays the day, have I missed something? People on the wind up I expect I think it was reported, we were hoping for some news today. I'm not sure how accurate their information was though. Plus some reporter on Twitter said we would hear something today. Dan Hargreaves was hinting there would be news this week . I think he was just guessing.
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Post by daniel300380 on Nov 16, 2023 12:02:30 GMT
I think it was reported, we were hoping for some news today. I'm not sure how accurate their information was though. Plus some reporter on Twitter said we would hear something today. Dan Hargreaves was hinting there would be news this week . I think he was just guessing. It was Darren Whitcoop, that I saw say it. He has worked for national papers etc, but I'm not sure how accurate his information is at the moment.
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Post by baggins on Nov 16, 2023 12:15:50 GMT
Not on about compensation to get the new Manager in through the door, I'm on about the compensation we'd have to pay him if we sack him. On that basis we’d never appoint a decent manager. Sounds like you want to go for the budget bodge option because it could be cheaper if an outside appointment goes wrong. Surely the new owners have to back their process and judgement and have 100% belief that they are making the right appointment. I'm not against a new Manager, just not sure we need one, yet. Spending money doesn't always mean success, just got to look south as an example.
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Post by pirate on Nov 16, 2023 12:17:52 GMT
Doesn't look like much of an upgrade to me. Exeter fans were gutted be went. Most of the Rotherham fans on Twitter and the forum wanted him to stay with them. They said they were unlucky when injuries, but they could see what he was doing. You wanted Garner before, but don't want someone with a high win percentage. He had a smaller budget than Barton at Exeter, yet they did better than us. They played better football than us as well. The best football in the second half of that League Two season was played by us IMHO. He did a good job at Exeter, but I just think it was the right fit with him at the club. We have been unlucky when injuries too, will he be able to cope with that better here? I look at his signings this summer and I'm not impressed. He's got a good win percentage at Exeter in League Two because he did a good job, but unproven at this level and doesn't have a great record at the level above. Couldn't find solutions to change away form at Rotherham with zero wins in the past year, this season conceding an average of 2 goals a game with just two wins from their 16 league games and leaves with a 20% win percentage, a PPM of 0.90 and a minus 38 goal difference.
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Post by RD on Nov 16, 2023 12:20:51 GMT
Exeter fans were gutted be went. Most of the Rotherham fans on Twitter and the forum wanted him to stay with them. They said they were unlucky when injuries, but they could see what he was doing. You wanted Garner before, but don't want someone with a high win percentage. He had a smaller budget than Barton at Exeter, yet they did better than us. They played better football than us as well. The best football in the second half of that League Two season was played by us IMHO. He did a good job at Exeter, but I just think it was the right fit with him at the club. We have been unlucky when injuries too, will he be able to cope with that better here? I look at his signings this summer and I'm not impressed. He's got a good win percentage at Exeter in League Two because he did a good job, but unproven at this level and doesn't have a great record at the level above. Couldn't find solutions to change away form at Rotherham with zero wins in the past year, this season conceding an average of 2 goals a game with just two wins from their 16 league games and leaves with a 20% win percentage, a PPM of 0.90 and a minus 38 goal difference. Don't really think then PPG and all that is particularly relevant when you're managing Rotherham in the Championship. It's akin to beating Luton with a stick when they're out of their depth. His PPG isn't far off Barton's in L1, and that's with a much inferior team to that of his rivals and in a higher division. He would be an utterly enormous step up on our prior incumbent, IMO.
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Post by bstokegas on Nov 16, 2023 12:22:07 GMT
If it's Taylor then I wonder if this means the return of Wayne Carlisle as his assistant
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Post by wallywalters on Nov 16, 2023 12:24:20 GMT
Bristol live now reporting rovers holding talks with Taylor
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Post by pirate on Nov 16, 2023 12:25:59 GMT
The best football in the second half of that League Two season was played by us IMHO. He did a good job at Exeter, but I just think it was the right fit with him at the club. We have been unlucky when injuries too, will he be able to cope with that better here? I look at his signings this summer and I'm not impressed. He's got a good win percentage at Exeter in League Two because he did a good job, but unproven at this level and doesn't have a great record at the level above. Couldn't find solutions to change away form at Rotherham with zero wins in the past year, this season conceding an average of 2 goals a game with just two wins from their 16 league games and leaves with a 20% win percentage, a PPM of 0.90 and a minus 38 goal difference. Don't really think then PPG and all that is particularly relevant when you're managing Rotherham in the Championship. It's akin to beating Luton with a stick when they're out of their depth. His PPG isn't far off Barton's in L1, and that's with a much inferior team to that of his rivals and in a higher division. He would be an utterly enormous step up on our prior incumbent. There is nothing to suggest he's an "enormous step up on our prior incumbent" and Barton actually has a history of taking a team to the League One playoffs, something we haven't achieved for 25 years. I might be more enthusiastic about Taylor if we if we were in League Two, but we aren't.
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Post by RD on Nov 16, 2023 12:27:38 GMT
Don't really think then PPG and all that is particularly relevant when you're managing Rotherham in the Championship. It's akin to beating Luton with a stick when they're out of their depth. His PPG isn't far off Barton's in L1, and that's with a much inferior team to that of his rivals and in a higher division. He would be an utterly enormous step up on our prior incumbent. There is nothing to suggest he's an "enormous step up on our prior incumbent" and Barton actually has a history of taking a team to the League One playoffs, something we haven't achieved for 25 years. I might be more enthusiastic about Taylor if we if we were in League Two, but we aren't. Barton has never (and almost certainly will never) manage in the Championship. And was that the season Fleetwood defaulted to the playoff position in a season that didn't actually finish? And then bottled it anyway? And saying "I might be more enthusiastic about Taylor if we if we were in League Two, but we aren't." is just a bizarre statement - can you elaborate? Why would you be more enthusiastic if we were in L2?
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Post by pirate on Nov 16, 2023 12:35:51 GMT
There is nothing to suggest he's an "enormous step up on our prior incumbent" and Barton actually has a history of taking a team to the League One playoffs, something we haven't achieved for 25 years. I might be more enthusiastic about Taylor if we if we were in League Two, but we aren't. Barton has never (and almost certainly will never) manage in the Championship. And was that the season Fleetwood defaulted to the playoff position in a season that didn't actually finish? And then bottled it anyway? And saying "I might be more enthusiastic about Taylor if we if we were in League Two, but we aren't." is just a bizarre statement - can you elaborate? Why would you be more enthusiastic if we were in L2? I'd be more enthusiastic because he's shown he can manage at that level.
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Post by onefindunford on Nov 16, 2023 12:35:53 GMT
If it's Taylor then I wonder if this means the return of Wayne Carlisle as his assistant In my opinion one of the laziest players ever to don the quarters, which was frustrating as thought he was a very talented footballer. Hope he is a much harder worker wearing a coaches jacket.
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Post by daniel300380 on Nov 16, 2023 12:36:14 GMT
Exeter fans were gutted be went. Most of the Rotherham fans on Twitter and the forum wanted him to stay with them. They said they were unlucky when injuries, but they could see what he was doing. You wanted Garner before, but don't want someone with a high win percentage. He had a smaller budget than Barton at Exeter, yet they did better than us. They played better football than us as well. The best football in the second half of that League Two season was played by us IMHO. He did a good job at Exeter, but I just think it was the right fit with him at the club. We have been unlucky when injuries too, will he be able to cope with that better here? I look at his signings this summer and I'm not impressed. He's got a good win percentage at Exeter in League Two because he did a good job, but unproven at this level and doesn't have a great record at the level above. Couldn't find solutions to change away form at Rotherham with zero wins in the past year, this season conceding an average of 2 goals a game with just two wins from their 16 league games and leaves with a 20% win percentage, a PPM of 0.90 and a minus 38 goal difference. Exeter were in the top half of League 1 when he left. Even in the 2nd half of the season when we were doing well, they were one of the teams we couldn't beat at the mem. He said how sad he was to leave Exeter as he had a new born son and liked the area etc. He might be more settled in the South West and get back to what he does best. His team played attacking football, he got the best out of his players and helped to bring youngsters through. He's not experienced promotion at this level, but he's not had a chance to yet! Living in Cornwall, Plymouth fans were happy to see him leave Exeter. That says a lot.
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Post by rovers78 on Nov 16, 2023 12:36:35 GMT
Now want talks with Taylor. So really it’s been 4 weeks and we don’t want to appoint anyone that we’ve spoken to so far ? Bit of a worry, not exactly a great process is it
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2023 12:37:11 GMT
Dan Hargreaves was hinting there would be news this week . I think he was just guessing. It was Darren Whitcoop, that I saw say it. He has worked for national papers etc, but I'm not sure how accurate his information is at the moment. Not very, if you look at the timing of his stuff he steals others stories or just gets things plain wrong.
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Post by daniel300380 on Nov 16, 2023 12:43:25 GMT
Now want talks with Taylor. So really it’s been 4 weeks and we don’t want to appoint anyone that we’ve spoken to so far ? Bit of a worry, not exactly a great process is it It says Monk is still in the running as well.
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Post by pudseygas on Nov 16, 2023 12:49:29 GMT
The best football in the second half of that League Two season was played by us IMHO. He did a good job at Exeter, but I just think it was the right fit with him at the club. We have been unlucky when injuries too, will he be able to cope with that better here? I look at his signings this summer and I'm not impressed. He's got a good win percentage at Exeter in League Two because he did a good job, but unproven at this level and doesn't have a great record at the level above. Couldn't find solutions to change away form at Rotherham with zero wins in the past year, this season conceding an average of 2 goals a game with just two wins from their 16 league games and leaves with a 20% win percentage, a PPM of 0.90 and a minus 38 goal difference. Exeter were in the top half of League 1 when he left. Even in the 2nd half of the season when we were doing well, they were one of the teams we couldn't beat at the mem. He said how sad he was to leave Exeter as he had a new born son and liked the area etc. He might be more settled in the South West and get back to what he does best. His team played attacking football, he got the best out of his players and helped to bring youngsters through. He's not experienced promotion at this level, but he's not had a chance to yet! Living in Cornwall, Plymouth fans were happy to see him leave Exeter. That says a lot. Seem the right fit for us. Hasn't made it in the Champ but can't imagine it's an easy job at Rotherham tbh. He might be able to get J Brown playing to his potential again after working with him before. Not a reason to give him the job I know but JB has been pretty frustrating this season
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Post by percy on Nov 16, 2023 12:49:53 GMT
Now want talks with Taylor. So really it’s been 4 weeks and we don’t want to appoint anyone that we’ve spoken to so far ? Bit of a worry, not exactly a great process is it Why? If id spent 4 weeks interviewing and no one seemed the right fit to work for me, i'd much rather look for new entrants in the job market than just accept one of the already interview as "they'll have to do" People are to quick to criticise a process they have no real sight of. Just guesswork and conjecture.
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Post by Marshy on Nov 16, 2023 12:55:29 GMT
Now want talks with Taylor. So really it’s been 4 weeks and we don’t want to appoint anyone that we’ve spoken to so far ? Bit of a worry, not exactly a great process is it Why? If id spent 4 weeks interviewing and no one seemed the right fit to work for me, i'd much rather look for new entrants in the job market than just accept one of the already interview as "they'll have to do" People are to quick to criticise a process they have no real sight of. Just guesswork and conjecture. Feck me Percy this is Rovers not Real Madrid, to much fecking around here we should have made a decision by now. We may as well stick with Mangs until the summer.
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Post by lastminutewinner on Nov 16, 2023 12:56:00 GMT
If it's Taylor then I wonder if this means the return of Wayne Carlisle as his assistant In my opinion one of the laziest players ever to don the quarters, which was frustrating as thought he was a very talented footballer. Hope he is a much harder worker wearing a coaches jacket. Matt Lockwood was the annoying one for me. A prime Roberto Carlos for Orient, but Roberta Carlos for the gas
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Post by eric on Nov 16, 2023 12:59:05 GMT
Now want talks with Taylor. So really it’s been 4 weeks and we don’t want to appoint anyone that we’ve spoken to so far ? Bit of a worry, not exactly a great process is it Why? If id spent 4 weeks interviewing and no one seemed the right fit to work for me, i'd much rather look for new entrants in the job market than just accept one of the already interview as "they'll have to do" People are to quick to criticise a process they have no real sight of. Just guesswork and conjecture. My concern is that do the owners really know what they want or are they just hoping they’ll know once that person is sat in front of them and impresses?
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