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Post by yattongas on Nov 18, 2023 9:09:11 GMT
You clearly don’t have any understanding of how bookies odds work. I have a very clear understanding. I used to be in the betting industry and have gambled often during my adult life. I bet you haven’t.
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Post by gasandelectricity on Nov 18, 2023 9:27:17 GMT
And Taylor 4/1. Wow that is unbelievable if it is Mangan after going out to 12/1 yesterday, I would be shocked. Like I told you yesterday. The bookies know no more than you or I do. It’s all Dan Hargreaves hedging his bet after his inside info turned out to not go anywhere.
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Post by francegas on Nov 18, 2023 10:12:22 GMT
You clearly don’t have any understanding of how bookies odds work. I have a very clear understanding. I used to be in the betting industry and have gambled often during my adult life. There you go gasdust was correct. If you've gambled often during your adult life 1 year of gambling doesn't suddenly make you an expert!!😁😁😁
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Post by Claremont Gas on Nov 18, 2023 10:52:12 GMT
As much as I like the bloke appointing Mangan would be one of the biggest cop outs in our recent history.
It will prove that the suits running the club have absolutely no idea on football matters… start the countdown clock for March and a desperation search to find someone to keep us in League One,
Seriously Rovers never fail to under achieve - it’s post Paul Trollope ground hog day all over again.
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Post by TAGas on Nov 18, 2023 11:21:28 GMT
In my opinion I don't think Mangan is getting the job as I think he would have been given it by now and they wouldn't have interviewed Taylor in the week.
Probably taking a while as they want to try and work out how the new manager would incorporate into the current backroom staff
Just my opinion of course.
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Post by gasify on Nov 18, 2023 11:33:40 GMT
As much as I like the bloke appointing Mangan would be one of the biggest cop outs in our recent history. It will prove that the suits running the club have absolutely no idea on football matters… start the countdown clock for March and a desperation search to find someone to keep us in League One, Seriously Rovers never fail to under achieve - it’s Paul Trollope ground hog day all over again. The new owners are a little damned if they do and damned if they don't. You could infer quite a lot into not having someone lined up already: It fits the rhetoric that JB was sacked for his mouth, rather than the results. There is not currently an emergency, so buys time to find the right person. They have a really good idea of what they want and just haven't found it yet. They just can't make their minds up as they are scared of getting it wrong. With a lack of detail being released (and probably rightly so) we won't know what is happening. If any of the above is true or is just made up inference. While we don't have a burning reason for shipping Mangan off, it would be good to have someone in place before December to plan the transfer window (unless JCH is already a done deal...?). Patience Gasheads.
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Post by gasmania on Nov 18, 2023 11:40:34 GMT
As much as I like the bloke appointing Mangan would be one of the biggest cop outs in our recent history. It will prove that the suits running the club have absolutely no idea on football matters… start the countdown clock for March and a desperation search to find someone to keep us in League One, Seriously Rovers never fail to under achieve - it’s Paul Trollope ground hog day all over again. At the end of the day though we could be in that bad situation if we go and get a new manager from outside the club? There is no guarantee anyone will do better or worse and no guarantee that Mangan will fail or continue to pick up results. All we can do is get behind whoever it is, even if it is Mangan, and try help the team with our support.
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Post by albaron on Nov 18, 2023 12:03:08 GMT
As much as I like the bloke appointing Mangan would be one of the biggest cop outs in our recent history. It will prove that the suits running the club have absolutely no idea on football matters… start the countdown clock for March and a desperation search to find someone to keep us in League One, Seriously Rovers never fail to under achieve - it’s Paul Trollope ground hog day all over again. The new owners are a little damned if they do and damned if they don't. You could infer quite a lot into not having someone lined up already: It fits the rhetoric that JB was sacked for his mouth, rather than the results. There is not currently an emergency, so buys time to find the right person. They have a really good idea of what they want and just haven't found it yet. They just can't make their minds up as they are scared of getting it wrong. With a lack of detail being released (and probably rightly so) we won't know what is happening. If any of the above is true or is just made up inference. While we don't have a burning reason for shipping Mangan off, it would be good to have someone in place before December to plan the transfer window (unless JCH is already a done deal...?). Patience Gasheads. I'm sorry But I don't think this board of directors have a clue of running a football club. They were clueless on the state of play regarding the " Fruit Market " site. The JCH transfer fiasco . Re- building the Mem at the cheapest possible way. and now appointing a new manager. Other clubs notably City & Oxford have shown the way how it should be done. I bet this time in a weeks time we will still be in limbo but another couple of names added to our list as past favourites have sighned up to other clubs.
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Post by wilkimania on Nov 18, 2023 12:07:48 GMT
As much as I like the bloke appointing Mangan would be one of the biggest cop outs in our recent history. It will prove that the suits running the club have absolutely no idea on football matters… start the countdown clock for March and a desperation search to find someone to keep us in League One, Seriously Rovers never fail to under achieve - it’s Paul Trollope ground hog day all over again. Didn't we get promoted under Trollope?
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Post by yattongas on Nov 18, 2023 12:11:03 GMT
The new owners are a little damned if they do and damned if they don't. You could infer quite a lot into not having someone lined up already: It fits the rhetoric that JB was sacked for his mouth, rather than the results. There is not currently an emergency, so buys time to find the right person. They have a really good idea of what they want and just haven't found it yet. They just can't make their minds up as they are scared of getting it wrong. With a lack of detail being released (and probably rightly so) we won't know what is happening. If any of the above is true or is just made up inference. While we don't have a burning reason for shipping Mangan off, it would be good to have someone in place before December to plan the transfer window (unless JCH is already a done deal...?). Patience Gasheads. I'm sorry But I don't think this board of directors have a clue of running a football club. They were clueless on the state of play regarding the " Fruit Market " site. The JCH transfer fiasco . Re- building the Mem at the cheapest possible way. and now appointing a new manager. Other clubs notably City & Oxford have shown the way how it should be done. I bet this time in a weeks time we will still be in limbo but another couple of names added to our list as past favourites have sighned up to other clubs. This lot have built a 3500 seat stand , more than any other board has done in over 50 yrs
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Post by warehamgas on Nov 18, 2023 12:48:57 GMT
As much as I like the bloke appointing Mangan would be one of the biggest cop outs in our recent history. It will prove that the suits running the club have absolutely no idea on football matters… start the countdown clock for March and a desperation search to find someone to keep us in League One, Seriously Rovers never fail to under achieve - it’s Paul Trollope ground hog day all over again. Are you saying PT wasn’t a successful manager for us? It doesn’t prove what you say it proves. It shows that JB probably opened his mouth once too often at the wrong time and paid for it. But that’s just an opinion, not proof. It showed that ultimately he couldn’t do what he’d always done…perhaps. And fortunately AM has steadied the club, got some good results and given the owners some breathing time. I think your ideas of ‘proof’ are more like opinions and a point of view. All of which are valid but as opinions, not proof. I think they’ve handled the situation fairly well. Given themselves some time to think, reflect and make a choice they want. They have been lucky insofar as AM has got some decent results which has enabled them not to make a hasty appointment. It’s ok, I know it’s probably a minority view on here but managers come along all the time so I don’t see the need to make a hasty one. I’m not sure AM is the long term answer for us but tbh few managers get to the long term anyway. As ever time will tell. UTG! UTG!
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Post by Claremont Gas on Nov 18, 2023 13:01:12 GMT
As much as I like the bloke appointing Mangan would be one of the biggest cop outs in our recent history. It will prove that the suits running the club have absolutely no idea on football matters… start the countdown clock for March and a desperation search to find someone to keep us in League One, Seriously Rovers never fail to under achieve - it’s post Paul Trollope ground hog day all over again. Are you saying PT wasn’t a successful manager for us? UTG! No far from it ....Thought with Lennie Lawrence he was great. He took us up but then suddenly mid table wasn't good enough and he was fired. We all know what followed ... Whilst I am glad that Barton has gone the knock on insecurity in a dressing room can be a disaster and I really worry that the Pro Barton players in the dressing room won't play for anyone other than their pal Mangan.... I am really concerned for what comes next ...
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Nov 18, 2023 13:05:59 GMT
I have a very clear understanding. I used to be in the betting industry and have gambled often during my adult life. There you go gasdust was correct. If you've gambled often during your adult life 1 year of gambling doesn't suddenly make you an expert!!😁😁😁 Mangan been appointed then has he? He who laughs last laughs loudest.
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Post by bravosierraseven on Nov 18, 2023 13:06:40 GMT
The new owners are a little damned if they do and damned if they don't. You could infer quite a lot into not having someone lined up already: It fits the rhetoric that JB was sacked for his mouth, rather than the results. There is not currently an emergency, so buys time to find the right person. They have a really good idea of what they want and just haven't found it yet. They just can't make their minds up as they are scared of getting it wrong. With a lack of detail being released (and probably rightly so) we won't know what is happening. If any of the above is true or is just made up inference. While we don't have a burning reason for shipping Mangan off, it would be good to have someone in place before December to plan the transfer window (unless JCH is already a done deal...?). Patience Gasheads. I'm sorry But I don't think this board of directors have a clue of running a football club. They were clueless on the state of play regarding the " Fruit Market " site. The JCH transfer fiasco . Re- building the Mem at the cheapest possible way. and now appointing a new manager. Other clubs notably City & Oxford have shown the way how it should be done. I bet this time in a weeks time we will still be in limbo but another couple of names added to our list as past favourites have sighned up to other clubs. An owner can only run a football club in the manner they see fit for the circumstances they find themselves in. Sometimes they get it right, sometimes they don't. I remember when we were at Twerton being told that all would be fine once we get our own ground and have control of all the income but nothing much has changed whoever has been in charge, except the size of the losses due to higher wages and running costs. As for the fruit market, if Conygar wanted more investment from us and a share of the income, like the Uwe, we would still be in the same situation.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2023 13:10:44 GMT
There you go gasdust was correct. If you've gambled often during your adult life 1 year of gambling doesn't suddenly make you an expert!!😁😁😁 Mangan been appointed then has he? He who laughs last laughs loudest. Thing is nobody here has said he’ll deffo be getting the job now he has come back in. All it’s done is prove that the bookies know nada.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Nov 18, 2023 13:17:07 GMT
Mangan been appointed then has he? He who laughs last laughs loudest. Thing is nobody here has said he’ll deffo be getting the job now he has come back in. All it’s done is prove that the bookies know nada. But that wasn't my point. My point was if he's going out to 12/1 in his position then he ain't getting it. Being 1/3 the bookies aren't taking a hit at those odds so that can mean nothing. Taking the risk of pushing him out to 12/1 does mean something.
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Post by rossinio on Nov 18, 2023 13:21:19 GMT
The new owners are a little damned if they do and damned if they don't. You could infer quite a lot into not having someone lined up already: It fits the rhetoric that JB was sacked for his mouth, rather than the results. There is not currently an emergency, so buys time to find the right person. They have a really good idea of what they want and just haven't found it yet. They just can't make their minds up as they are scared of getting it wrong. With a lack of detail being released (and probably rightly so) we won't know what is happening. If any of the above is true or is just made up inference. While we don't have a burning reason for shipping Mangan off, it would be good to have someone in place before December to plan the transfer window (unless JCH is already a done deal...?). Patience Gasheads. I'm sorry But I don't think this board of directors have a clue of running a football club. They were clueless on the state of play regarding the " Fruit Market " site. The JCH transfer fiasco . Re- building the Mem at the cheapest possible way. and now appointing a new manager. Other clubs notably City & Oxford have shown the way how it should be done. I bet this time in a weeks time we will still be in limbo but another couple of names added to our list as past favourites have sighned up to other clubs. Would that be the same City that declared they were building a new stadium but had to give up and redevelop Trashton? The same City that has just had to sell their best players? The same City that has spent a monstrous amount of money to spend every season languishing around mid table year after year? The same City that loses money hand over fist? The same City who are now part of a multi club ‘brand’ rather than an individual club with their own unique identity? The same City that has an increasing section of it’s fan base who want the owner to sell up as they feel he has lost interest? The same City whose owner would struggle to sell as he would still want to keep the stadium for the Bears? The same City that declared ‘Europe in 5 years’ lord knows how long ago? The same City who thinks they should be appointing ex Chelsea managers but end up going cheap and recruiting from League One The same City that sacked a decent manager who was doing okay while working with restricted budgets and an injury crisis purely because he was not a ‘yes man’ and was vocal about the club’s limited ambition?. The sake City that moved quickly for a manager who will do as he is told because he is grateful to be in the Championship but will not inspire the fanbase? Think i will let Rovers do it their way thanks (although the new stadium fail/regeneration plan seems to have been copied to an extent)
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2023 13:36:13 GMT
Thing is nobody here has said he’ll deffo be getting the job now he has come back in. All it’s done is prove that the bookies know nada. But that wasn't my point. My point was if he's going out to 12/1 in his position then he ain't getting it. Being 1/3 the bookies aren't taking a hit at those odds so that can mean nothing. Taking the risk of pushing him out to 12/1 does mean something. Yes. It means nobody bet on him for a while as most were going in on Taylor.
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Post by yattongas on Nov 18, 2023 13:38:50 GMT
Mangan now 2/5
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Post by gasify on Nov 18, 2023 14:39:59 GMT
The new owners are a little damned if they do and damned if they don't. You could infer quite a lot into not having someone lined up already: It fits the rhetoric that JB was sacked for his mouth, rather than the results. There is not currently an emergency, so buys time to find the right person. They have a really good idea of what they want and just haven't found it yet. They just can't make their minds up as they are scared of getting it wrong. With a lack of detail being released (and probably rightly so) we won't know what is happening. If any of the above is true or is just made up inference. While we don't have a burning reason for shipping Mangan off, it would be good to have someone in place before December to plan the transfer window (unless JCH is already a done deal...?). Patience Gasheads. I'm sorry But I don't think this board of directors have a clue of running a football club. They were clueless on the state of play regarding the " Fruit Market " site. The JCH transfer fiasco . Re- building the Mem at the cheapest possible way. and now appointing a new manager. Other clubs notably City & Oxford have shown the way how it should be done. I bet this time in a weeks time we will still be in limbo but another couple of names added to our list as past favourites have sighned up to other clubs. Problem is, "This board or directors" are different to the board of directors that were responsible for some of the things you mention. In the same way as Wael pulled out of the UWE deal, these guys have pulled out of the fruit market (I never liked the idea of the fruit market, if I was honest). So, they redevelop some of the current stadium (if you can call it that at the moment), got to be better than doing nothing? We all do realise that once the redevelopment has happened, a matchday ticket will be over £30. We will all be sitting and that just costs more, regardless of which league we are in. The new owners have never run a football club before, so when you say they have no clue how to run a football club then you are 100% correct. What I am hoping is that they can run it as a business with profits being generated as that really is the only chance that Rovers will still be here in the long term. We just have to hope that they get it right.
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