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Post by gingerandwhitegas on Nov 18, 2023 15:18:11 GMT
I'm sorry But I don't think this board of directors have a clue of running a football club. They were clueless on the state of play regarding the " Fruit Market " site. The JCH transfer fiasco . Re- building the Mem at the cheapest possible way. and now appointing a new manager. Other clubs notably City & Oxford have shown the way how it should be done. I bet this time in a weeks time we will still be in limbo but another couple of names added to our list as past favourites have sighned up to other clubs. This lot have built a 3500 seat stand , more than any other board has done in over 50 yrs It's pretty damning of our club when you put it like that , but you're absolutly right.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2023 15:28:02 GMT
This lot have built a 3500 seat stand , more than any other board has done in over 50 yrs It's pretty damning of our club when you put it like that , but you're absolutly right. The new stand was actually in motion before they agreed to buy a majority share in the club
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Post by aghast on Nov 18, 2023 17:00:13 GMT
Surely shome mishtake? We've been informed by an expert on here that he ain't getting it.
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Post by Topper Gas on Nov 18, 2023 17:01:14 GMT
I'm sorry But I don't think this board of directors have a clue of running a football club. They were clueless on the state of play regarding the " Fruit Market " site. The JCH transfer fiasco . Re- building the Mem at the cheapest possible way. and now appointing a new manager. Other clubs notably City & Oxford have shown the way how it should be done. I bet this time in a weeks time we will still be in limbo but another couple of names added to our list as past favourites have sighned up to other clubs. Problem is, "This board or directors" are different to the board of directors that were responsible for some of the things you mention. In the same way as Wael pulled out of the UWE deal, these guys have pulled out of the fruit market (I never liked the idea of the fruit market, if I was honest). So, they redevelop some of the current stadium (if you can call it that at the moment), got to be better than doing nothing? We all do realise that once the redevelopment has happened, a matchday ticket will be over £30. We will all be sitting and that just costs more, regardless of which league we are in. The new owners have never run a football club before, so when you say they have no clue how to run a football club then you are 100% correct. What I am hoping is that they can run it as a business with profits being generated as that really is the only chance that Rovers will still be here in the long term. We just have to hope that they get it right. If the owners have no idea how to run a football club why don't they appoint somebody who does? There's so much secrecy around the club at present we've no real idea what they are doing, all we really get his updates via Dan Hargreaves regarding various manager were supposedly interviewing but we've no real idea if they are being interviewed, DH could be making it up just to get website hits, or just being fed false info. The new co-owner clearly stated terracing would remain after Stage's 1,2 & 3 were completed so why are you suggesting otherwise?
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Post by yattongas on Nov 18, 2023 17:16:15 GMT
Surely shome mishtake? We've been informed by an expert on here that he ain't getting it. I know , weird isn’t it ?
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Post by gasify on Nov 18, 2023 17:39:43 GMT
Problem is, "This board or directors" are different to the board of directors that were responsible for some of the things you mention. In the same way as Wael pulled out of the UWE deal, these guys have pulled out of the fruit market (I never liked the idea of the fruit market, if I was honest). So, they redevelop some of the current stadium (if you can call it that at the moment), got to be better than doing nothing? We all do realise that once the redevelopment has happened, a matchday ticket will be over £30. We will all be sitting and that just costs more, regardless of which league we are in. The new owners have never run a football club before, so when you say they have no clue how to run a football club then you are 100% correct. What I am hoping is that they can run it as a business with profits being generated as that really is the only chance that Rovers will still be here in the long term. We just have to hope that they get it right. If the owners have no idea how to run a football club why don't they appoint somebody who does? There's so much secrecy around the club at present we've no real idea what they are doing, all we really get his updates via Dan Hargreaves regarding various manager were supposedly interviewing but we've no real idea if they are being interviewed, DH could be making it up just to get website hits, or just being fed false info. The new co-owner clearly stated terracing would remain after Stage's 1,2 & 3 were completed so why are you suggesting otherwise? You've asked a few questions. I will answer them, unlike when posters ask you questions and I don't expect responses to my questions to you: I said they have no clue right now about running a football club, but the bit you ignored is that I hope they run it like a business. A football club has to be run as a business, it can't be run as a football club any more. My point here (made very badly) is that it's a positive thing that they haven't got a clue about running a football club. It means that they can look at things from a different perspective and add value due to that different perspective. As for the secrecy, there always has been. Do you think it would be fair for them to tell us who they have interviewed and who they have dismissed and who is on their short list? I remember under the Wael days, he wasn't that great a communicator. Some said that if you tweeted (or Xeeted) him, he would always answer. However when has he really given information to the fans apart from times when he has had to due to that info leaking from the press anyway. We have the interview that the new owner did, explaining about the sacking of JB and the fruit market. If you think back, that is probably more than Wael provided in his first 3 months at the helm. Dan Hargreaves may well be making it up to get hits. Come to think about it, isn't that literally his job...? The pieces that I have seen from him have been more 'editorial' and speculation type pieces than reporting on facts type pieces. As for terracing, they have said they want to redevelop the Thatchers end. I can't really see the need for this to be redeveloped unless there were seats going in. I must have missed where they said there would still be terracing. Have you got a link? However, saying that there will be terracing and saying that the Thatchers will remain a terrace or that there will be terracing for 6k people are different things. How do you think the Thatchers end will be redeveloped and remain as a terrace?
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Post by A Source (aka Angry Badger) on Nov 18, 2023 17:58:34 GMT
If the owners have no idea how to run a football club why don't they appoint somebody who does? There's so much secrecy around the club at present we've no real idea what they are doing, all we really get his updates via Dan Hargreaves regarding various manager were supposedly interviewing but we've no real idea if they are being interviewed, DH could be making it up just to get website hits, or just being fed false info. The new co-owner clearly stated terracing would remain after Stage's 1,2 & 3 were completed so why are you suggesting otherwise? You've asked a few questions. I will answer them, unlike when posters ask you questions and I don't expect responses to my questions to you: I said they have no clue right now about running a football club, but the bit you ignored is that I hope they run it like a business. A football club has to be run as a business, it can't be run as a football club any more. My point here (made very badly) is that it's a positive thing that they haven't got a clue about running a football club. It means that they can look at things from a different perspective and add value due to that different perspective. As for the secrecy, there always has been. Do you think it would be fair for them to tell us who they have interviewed and who they have dismissed and who is on their short list? I remember under the Wael days, he wasn't that great a communicator. Some said that if you tweeted (or Xeeted) him, he would always answer. However when has he really given information to the fans apart from times when he has had to due to that info leaking from the press anyway. We have the interview that the new owner did, explaining about the sacking of JB and the fruit market. If you think back, that is probably more than Wael provided in his first 3 months at the helm. Dan Hargreaves may well be making it up to get hits. Come to think about it, isn't that literally his job...? The pieces that I have seen from him have been more 'editorial' and speculation type pieces than reporting on facts type pieces. As for terracing, they have said they want to redevelop the Thatchers end. I can't really see the need for this to be redeveloped unless there were seats going in. I must have missed where they said there would still be terracing. Have you got a link? However, saying that there will be terracing and saying that the Thatchers will remain a terrace or that there will be terracing for 6k people are different things. How do you think the Thatchers end will be redeveloped and remain as a terrace? Seats on top of the bar, terrace in front. That'll do me
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Post by playtowin on Nov 18, 2023 17:59:00 GMT
The new owners are a little damned if they do and damned if they don't. You could infer quite a lot into not having someone lined up already: It fits the rhetoric that JB was sacked for his mouth, rather than the results. There is not currently an emergency, so buys time to find the right person. They have a really good idea of what they want and just haven't found it yet. They just can't make their minds up as they are scared of getting it wrong. With a lack of detail being released (and probably rightly so) we won't know what is happening. If any of the above is true or is just made up inference. While we don't have a burning reason for shipping Mangan off, it would be good to have someone in place before December to plan the transfer window (unless JCH is already a done deal...?). Patience Gasheads. I'm sorry But I don't think this board of directors have a clue of running a football club. They were clueless on the state of play regarding the " Fruit Market " site. The JCH transfer fiasco . Re- building the Mem at the cheapest possible way. and now appointing a new manager. Other clubs notably City & Oxford have shown the way how it should be done. I bet this time in a weeks time we will still be in limbo but another couple of names added to our list as past favourites have sighned up to other clubs. The owners it could be argued came in and didnt rock the boat but assessed what was currently in pkace whilst also providing plenty of funding. They sussed out FM was bad for Rovers. They sussed out the club was ran by nepotism. They sussed out some people were not quite up to the mark. They sussed out the manager was under achieving . They sussed out other boards were full of hot air and didnt achieve anything at our ground.Then implemented changes at our ground. Perhaps, they have also a better way of finding a manager ? Who knows on that score.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Nov 18, 2023 18:03:52 GMT
I'm sorry But I don't think this board of directors have a clue of running a football club. They were clueless on the state of play regarding the " Fruit Market " site. The JCH transfer fiasco . Re- building the Mem at the cheapest possible way. and now appointing a new manager. Other clubs notably City & Oxford have shown the way how it should be done. I bet this time in a weeks time we will still be in limbo but another couple of names added to our list as past favourites have sighned up to other clubs. The owners it could be argued came in and didnt rock the boat but assessed what was currently in pkace whilst also providing plenty of funding. They sussed out FM was bad for Rovers. They sussed out the club was ran by nepotism. They sussed out some people were not quite up to the mark. They sussed out the manager was under achieving . They sussed out other boards were full of hot air and didnt achieve anything at our ground.Then implemented changes at our ground. Perhaps, they have also a better way of finding a manager ? Who knows on that score. I guess we'll just have to (Ku)wait and see.
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Post by Topper Gas on Nov 18, 2023 18:05:08 GMT
I'm sorry But I don't think this board of directors have a clue of running a football club. They were clueless on the state of play regarding the " Fruit Market " site. The JCH transfer fiasco . Re- building the Mem at the cheapest possible way. and now appointing a new manager. Other clubs notably City & Oxford have shown the way how it should be done. I bet this time in a weeks time we will still be in limbo but another couple of names added to our list as past favourites have sighned up to other clubs. The owners it could be argued came in and didnt rock the boat but assessed what was currently in pkace whilst also providing plenty of funding. They sussed out FM was bad for Rovers. They sussed out the club was ran by nepotism. They sussed out some people were not quite up to the mark. They sussed out the manager was under achieving . They sussed out other boards were full of hot air and didnt achieve anything at our ground.Then implemented changes at our ground.
Perhaps, they have also a better way of finding a manager ? Who knows on that score. Surely Wael set the ball rolling as far as the Mem redevelopment is concerned, the time lines, TG first mentioned it back in, I think., December, doesn't point to the new owners being involved at that stage. You do wonder if Wael had already decided the FM was dead when he decided to build the new stand.
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Post by playtowin on Nov 18, 2023 18:06:51 GMT
The owners it could be argued came in and didnt rock the boat but assessed what was currently in pkace whilst also providing plenty of funding. They sussed out FM was bad for Rovers. They sussed out the club was ran by nepotism. They sussed out some people were not quite up to the mark. They sussed out the manager was under achieving . They sussed out other boards were full of hot air and didnt achieve anything at our ground.Then implemented changes at our ground.
Perhaps, they have also a better way of finding a manager ? Who knows on that score. Surely Wael set the ball rolling as far as the Mem redevelopment is concerned, the time lines, TG first mentioned it back in, I think., December, doesn't point to the new owners being involved at that stage. You do wonder if Wael had already decided the FM was dead when he decided to build the new stand. How long had Wael been in contact with the new guys before we heard about them ?
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Post by Topper Gas on Nov 18, 2023 18:07:44 GMT
If the owners have no idea how to run a football club why don't they appoint somebody who does? There's so much secrecy around the club at present we've no real idea what they are doing, all we really get his updates via Dan Hargreaves regarding various manager were supposedly interviewing but we've no real idea if they are being interviewed, DH could be making it up just to get website hits, or just being fed false info. The new co-owner clearly stated terracing would remain after Stage's 1,2 & 3 were completed so why are you suggesting otherwise? You've asked a few questions. I will answer them, unlike when posters ask you questions and I don't expect responses to my questions to you: I said they have no clue right now about running a football club, but the bit you ignored is that I hope they run it like a business. A football club has to be run as a business, it can't be run as a football club any more. My point here (made very badly) is that it's a positive thing that they haven't got a clue about running a football club. It means that they can look at things from a different perspective and add value due to that different perspective. As for the secrecy, there always has been. Do you think it would be fair for them to tell us who they have interviewed and who they have dismissed and who is on their short list? I remember under the Wael days, he wasn't that great a communicator. Some said that if you tweeted (or Xeeted) him, he would always answer. However when has he really given information to the fans apart from times when he has had to due to that info leaking from the press anyway. We have the interview that the new owner did, explaining about the sacking of JB and the fruit market. If you think back, that is probably more than Wael provided in his first 3 months at the helm. Dan Hargreaves may well be making it up to get hits. Come to think about it, isn't that literally his job...? The pieces that I have seen from him have been more 'editorial' and speculation type pieces than reporting on facts type pieces. As for terracing, they have said they want to redevelop the Thatchers end. I can't really see the need for this to be redeveloped unless there were seats going in. I must have missed where they said there would still be terracing. Have you got a link? However, saying that there will be terracing and saying that the Thatchers will remain a terrace or that there will be terracing for 6k people are different things. How do you think the Thatchers end will be redeveloped and remain as a terrace? Mr A suggested in his recent interview the terracing would remain, I assume we'll build a stand behind the north terrace, although that could change as I'd imagine sorting out the East Stand will take some time.
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Post by gasbaggio on Nov 18, 2023 18:27:04 GMT
We are 9th in the league, 4 points from play off places, with 30 games to go. We seem to have a large transfer kitty. I’m really surprised that Andy Mangan seems to be the only person who wants the job. Nice lad but unproven so doesn’t fit the majority owners profile accordingly to his radio interview. I really hope it’s good news early next week, which for me would be Garry Monk not Matt Taylor.
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Post by wallywalters on Nov 18, 2023 18:38:56 GMT
You've asked a few questions. I will answer them, unlike when posters ask you questions and I don't expect responses to my questions to you: I said they have no clue right now about running a football club, but the bit you ignored is that I hope they run it like a business. A football club has to be run as a business, it can't be run as a football club any more. My point here (made very badly) is that it's a positive thing that they haven't got a clue about running a football club. It means that they can look at things from a different perspective and add value due to that different perspective. As for the secrecy, there always has been. Do you think it would be fair for them to tell us who they have interviewed and who they have dismissed and who is on their short list? I remember under the Wael days, he wasn't that great a communicator. Some said that if you tweeted (or Xeeted) him, he would always answer. However when has he really given information to the fans apart from times when he has had to due to that info leaking from the press anyway. We have the interview that the new owner did, explaining about the sacking of JB and the fruit market. If you think back, that is probably more than Wael provided in his first 3 months at the helm. Dan Hargreaves may well be making it up to get hits. Come to think about it, isn't that literally his job...? The pieces that I have seen from him have been more 'editorial' and speculation type pieces than reporting on facts type pieces. As for terracing, they have said they want to redevelop the Thatchers end. I can't really see the need for this to be redeveloped unless there were seats going in. I must have missed where they said there would still be terracing. Have you got a link? However, saying that there will be terracing and saying that the Thatchers will remain a terrace or that there will be terracing for 6k people are different things. How do you think the Thatchers end will be redeveloped and remain as a terrace? Mr A suggested in his recent interview the terracing would remain, I assume we'll build a stand behind the north terrace, although that could change as I'd imagine sorting out the East Stand will take some time. Don't quote me on this and I can't be bothered to listen to his interview again but I think he said standing / safe standing will remain as we know our supporters like to stand? Something along those lines.
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Post by Quarters on Nov 18, 2023 18:50:21 GMT
So imagine a small double storey stand with safe standing Thatchers end, bit like Griffin Park. Would really ramp up the atmosphere.
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Post by percy on Nov 18, 2023 19:21:37 GMT
Mr A suggested in his recent interview the terracing would remain, I assume we'll build a stand behind the north terrace, although that could change as I'd imagine sorting out the East Stand will take some time. Don't quote me on this and I can't be bothered to listen to his interview again but I think he said standing / safe standing will remain as we know our supporters like to stand? Something along those lines. Yes. Safe standing in the thatchers was mentioned in the interview
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Post by rovers78 on Nov 18, 2023 19:31:01 GMT
Have heard Taylor isn’t interested , too soon after leaving Rotherham, Mangan going to be given 2.5 year contract Hi all I’ve heard this from two people now, some discrepancies about the length of contract but it’s increasingly likely that it’s Mangan, although may not be ‘club official’ until Monday/Tuesday. Just passing on what I have heard, from similar circles as I heard about Holden & Holloway talks from.
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Post by gasify on Nov 18, 2023 19:43:00 GMT
Mr A suggested in his recent interview the terracing would remain, I assume we'll build a stand behind the north terrace, although that could change as I'd imagine sorting out the East Stand will take some time. Don't quote me on this and I can't be bothered to listen to his interview again but I think he said standing / safe standing will remain as we know our supporters like to stand? Something along those lines. Maybe I am watching the wrong interview.Just watched this one again: No mention of standing or safe standing. Says next project is north and south of east terrace and then Thatchers and Cooling area. Anyone got a link to the one mentioning safe standing?
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Post by Topper Gas on Nov 18, 2023 20:06:45 GMT
Don't quote me on this and I can't be bothered to listen to his interview again but I think he said standing / safe standing will remain as we know our supporters like to stand? Something along those lines. Maybe I am watching the wrong interview.Just watched this one again: No mention of standing or safe standing. Says next project is north and south of east terrace and then Thatchers and Cooling area. Anyone got a link to the one mentioning safe standing? I've posted a reply on the correct stadium thread to avoid total confusion on this thread
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Post by pirate on Nov 18, 2023 20:08:44 GMT
Don't quote me on this and I can't be bothered to listen to his interview again but I think he said standing / safe standing will remain as we know our supporters like to stand? Something along those lines. Maybe I am watching the wrong interview.Just watched this one again: No mention of standing or safe standing. Says next project is north and south of east terrace and then Thatchers and Cooling area. Anyone got a link to the one mentioning safe standing? "We are going to keep the safe standing. Our fans are used to it." www.bristolpost.co.uk/news/bristol-news/bristol-rovers-new-owner-plans-8866818
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