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Post by southstandblue on Nov 1, 2024 21:01:04 GMT
I keep saying to people on this subject, just look at Brighton before they moved to their new stadium. They were getting similar crowds to what we usually get. After they moved their attendances just progressively went up and up. Agree though if the football is entertaining and we are winning, whatever league we are in, the crowds will come. Unfortunately we dont usually get both together Brighton is probably the best example of doing this right, and they were potentially in a worse position (league and ground) than Rovers before 2010. However, Tony Bloom's £93m investment, as well as shrewd managerial appointments made all the difference. Let's be honest, the level of investment through the Al Qadi's and AlSaeed's is never going to be at this level. The reason TB is so wealthy and hence Brighton are thriving is mostly down to analytics and algorithms, the guy has a fascinating outlook on football and the probability of outcomes, almost like the mind of a chess player. He has taken the data gained from being a bookie and brought it into the game and one would imagine, left so many clubs scratching their heads in disbelief and bewilderment. My eldest is in the game at he highest level and the things I hear of how some clubs are approaching the game now on an analytical level is something I find mesmerising really. It feels like TB has the code to unlock the game, it kind of feels as though they are sat on a golden goose for the long haul and are making other clubs look old school and out of touch. Wouldn't it be great to see the Alsaeed's invest heavily in a strategy that involves analytics at a deeper level along side player personality profiles (although analytics are helping with the latter). Sadly we are currently stuck with a 3 year plan of buy cheap and young in the hope they come good, when we could be creating a very different strategy, one where the devil is in the detail and where Brighton and Brentford have proven to be incredibly successful as a result of changing the in-house strategy. Imagine saying to a Brighton fan a decade ago, you will be playing in the Prem, be one of the wealthiest clubs in the prem, oh and you would sign Moisés Caicedo for £4.5m and flog him to Chelsea for £115m within two seasons! |
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Post by southstandblue on Nov 1, 2024 21:11:00 GMT
We've not seen anything to suggest anything is actaully happening- Could always be all talk...We were told we'd be hearing more in 2 weeks in June, just as a few more season tickets needed shifting! Did a search of Love Horfield Community page on FB, then put Bristol Rovers into the pages search option and the last post associated to Rovers was a year ago, so if the owners are in discussions with the local residents as they claim they are, then there is no evidence of it filtering through to the community page with over 10k members.... |
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Post by Feeling The Blues on Nov 1, 2024 22:15:52 GMT
We've not seen anything to suggest anything is actaully happening- Could always be all talk...We were told we'd be hearing more in 2 weeks in June, just as a few more season tickets needed shifting! Did a search of Love Horfield Community page on FB, then put Bristol Rovers into the pages search option and the last post associated to Rovers was a year ago, so if the owners are in discussions with the local residents as they claim they are, then there is no evidence of it filtering through to the community page with over 10k members.... Good research and confirms what most of us probably feel. NOTHING IS HAPPENING! |
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Post by gasheadontour on Nov 2, 2024 7:16:53 GMT
If you have enough money then you sign players to get you promoted as soon as possible rather than prospects who you might sell for a profit
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Post by daniel300380 on Nov 2, 2024 7:41:54 GMT
We've not seen anything to suggest anything is actaully happening- Could always be all talk...We were told we'd be hearing more in 2 weeks in June, just as a few more season tickets needed shifting! Did a search of Love Horfield Community page on FB, then put Bristol Rovers into the pages search option and the last post associated to Rovers was a year ago, so if the owners are in discussions with the local residents as they claim they are, then there is no evidence of it filtering through to the community page with over 10k members.... Well your research isn't very good. Just type it into Google and you will see we held meetings at the Mem twice in July this year! It's reported on BBC News, the club website, Bristol Post etc. We said we won't say anything else until the plans are finished. |
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Post by daniel300380 on Nov 2, 2024 7:42:46 GMT
Did a search of Love Horfield Community page on FB, then put Bristol Rovers into the pages search option and the last post associated to Rovers was a year ago, so if the owners are in discussions with the local residents as they claim they are, then there is no evidence of it filtering through to the community page with over 10k members.... Good research and confirms what most of us probably feel. NOTHING IS HAPPENING! Bad research, we held 2 meetings in July, less than 4 months ago. |
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Post by gashead79 on Nov 2, 2024 8:21:07 GMT
Good research and confirms what most of us probably feel. NOTHING IS HAPPENING! Bad research, we held 2 meetings in July, less than 4 months ago. Why do you think the meetings are not referenced on the community page? Surely you'd expect to see some dialogue on there with 10k members? Were the meetings well attended? |
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Post by pirate on Nov 2, 2024 8:39:26 GMT
Brighton is probably the best example of doing this right, and they were potentially in a worse position (league and ground) than Rovers before 2010. However, Tony Bloom's £93m investment, as well as shrewd managerial appointments made all the difference. Let's be honest, the level of investment through the Al Qadi's and AlSaeed's is never going to be at this level. The reason TB is so wealthy and hence Brighton are thriving is mostly down to analytics and algorithms, the guy has a fascinating outlook on football and the probability of outcomes, almost like the mind of a chess player. He has taken the data gained from being a bookie and brought it into the game and one would imagine, left so many clubs scratching their heads in disbelief and bewilderment. My eldest is in the game at he highest level and the things I hear of how some clubs are approaching the game now on an analytical level is something I find mesmerising really. It feels like TB has the code to unlock the game, it kind of feels as though they are sat on a golden goose for the long haul and are making other clubs look old school and out of touch. Wouldn't it be great to see the Alsaeed's invest heavily in a strategy that involves analytics at a deeper level along side player personality profiles (although analytics are helping with the latter). Sadly we are currently stuck with a 3 year plan of buy cheap and young in the hope they come good, when we could be creating a very different strategy, one where the devil is in the detail and where Brighton and Brentford have proven to be incredibly successful as a result of changing the in-house strategy. Imagine saying to a Brighton fan a decade ago, you will be playing in the Prem, be one of the wealthiest clubs in the prem, oh and you would sign Moisés Caicedo for £4.5m and flog him to Chelsea for £115m within two seasons!  Read here: archive.is/JyI0d |
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Post by southstandblue on Nov 2, 2024 9:26:51 GMT
Did a search of Love Horfield Community page on FB, then put Bristol Rovers into the pages search option and the last post associated to Rovers was a year ago, so if the owners are in discussions with the local residents as they claim they are, then there is no evidence of it filtering through to the community page with over 10k members.... Well your research isn't very good. Just type it into Google and you will see we held meetings at the Mem twice in July this year! It's reported on BBC News, the club website, Bristol Post etc. We said we won't say anything else until the plans are finished. I said I looked at one page with 10k followers and there was no mention. That was all, no need to start insulting. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Nov 2, 2024 10:47:20 GMT
Bad research, we held 2 meetings in July, less than 4 months ago. Why do you think the meetings are not referenced on the community page? Surely you'd expect to see some dialogue on there with 10k members? Were the meetings well attended? The meetings were definitely referenced on "Love Horfield" when they took place, as that was the sole reason I joined their FB group. The July meetings mentioned seem to be about the travel plans for the new stands www.facebook.com/share/p/dM1jJ99gpJ8dU2zK/ |
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Post by gasify on Nov 2, 2024 10:57:58 GMT
If you have enough money then you sign players to get you promoted as soon as possible rather than prospects who you might sell for a profit Not sure I agree with this. Yes, it's worth an extra £5m in revenue each season. If you were an owner, would you want: a) Make a 3m loss in league one b) Make a 10m loss in the Championship You only have to look at the dark side, mid table championship side with 20m loss each season (and they have the infrastructure). |
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Post by poorblue on Nov 2, 2024 11:04:18 GMT
If you have enough money then you sign players to get you promoted as soon as possible rather than prospects who you might sell for a profit Well for balance let's assume the TV money gives every L1 club £100m each per annum. That's "enough money" isn't it? Those teams promoted will get more money and those relegated will get less money! With or without the extra money there will be 3 clubs promoted and 4 clubs relegated. Any club that puts it's head above the parapet and spends above the £100m and gets promoted is a winner, those who don't risk financial ruin Any club that puts it's head above the parapet and spends above the £100m to avoid relegation but is still relegated is a loser and falls to the National league in 2 years Any club that stays within the £100m knows their place and muddles along in the middle of the pack. Every decade or so they become lucky/unlucky and will join the have or have nots in the pecking order. Only one club has ever kept a clean sheet on this issue "Arsenal" never promoted never relegated? |
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Post by daniel300380 on Nov 2, 2024 11:34:17 GMT
Well your research isn't very good. Just type it into Google and you will see we held meetings at the Mem twice in July this year! It's reported on BBC News, the club website, Bristol Post etc. We said we won't say anything else until the plans are finished. I said I looked at one page with 10k followers and there was no mention. That was all, no need to start insulting. Sorry, I was just pointing out they have held meetings and it has been repeated. Some fans were taking were using your information, to say that we have done nothing. I don't know how much they are working on it. They have said we won't hear much more, until they have proper plans. But it looks like they have been looking into it. Sometimes a rumor, can become fact on here. |
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